Topic: Tag Implication: ahoge or cowlick -> hair

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Actually cowlick refers to the same thing but going up. Not hanging freely.

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GDelscribe said:
Actually cowlick refers to the same thing but going up. Not hanging freely.

That is what an ahoge is, yes.

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Jackalfag said:
That is what an ahoge is, yes.

Also. Ahoge refers to a single lock of hair or even single strand. Cowlick is an entire hair style, ahoge sticks "up" and hangs down freely. A cowlick is entirely upward and pushes the bangs back. They arent related hairstyles.

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We need some non-japanese word. Cowlick is close.

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GDelscribe said:
Cowlick is an entire hair style

It's really not. Neither of these tags describe a "hairstyle" in the first place. They are features that can appear in hairstyles, but they are not hairstyles in-and-of themselves.

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They are not the same thing.

Cowlick looks like this

http://cdn1.askhairstyles.com/wb-content/uploads/2016/07/Cowlick-hairstyles-for-men-jpeg.jpg

http://www.hairstylesout.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Male-Hairstyles-for-Cowlicks-1.jpg?x74066

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b2/a7/91/b2a791a4e215eb627d1fd3b6e586c998.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Nq1ZSZ5.png

"A cowlick is a section of hair that stands straight up or lies at an angle at odds with the style in which the rest of an individual's hair is worn. Cowlicks appear when the growth direction of the hair forms a spiral pattern."

Ahoge (Literally idiot hair) is a japanese trope, to signify a character is airheaded or "carefree"

It has a very specific look, http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/enanimanga/images/0/0b/Aho-tan.png/revision/latest?cb=20100426035125

https://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/s/common/uploaded_files/1459168791-56ee4e86929176bfd5e0368b1c9d8d7a.jpeg

http://pm1.narvii.com/5661/feb964e509e35b214e8f0b2b6f11cccd45d7d048_hq.jpg

I will reiterate again. They are /not/ the same thing.

Equating them to be the same thing is an americanism that came out of tvtropes. They look very different. And should be tagged seperately and distinctly.

Also a cowlick is almost always part of the bangs, ahoge can be anywhere, often right out of the top of the head.

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+1 for implicating ahogehair.

Random said:
We need some non-japanese word.

Not necessarily; we have some tags based on japanese language and them seem to work (e.g. 'ahegao', 'torogao', 'geta', 'serafuku' etc).

Furrin_Gok said:
Alias Ahoge -> cowlick

-1. Both may appear to be similar sometimes, but definitely not allways; I would say that ahoge sometimes seems like a very particular (and somewhat toony) kind of cowlick, more than enough to be tagged distinctly.

GDelscribe said:

I will reiterate again. They are /not/ the same thing.

Equating them to be the same thing is an americanism that came out of tvtropes. They look very different. And should be tagged seperately and distinctly.

I agree (but would say there is an intersection between them).

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O16 said:
+1 for implicating ahogehair.

Not necessarily; we have some tags based on japanese language and them seem to work (e.g. 'ahegao', 'torogao', 'geta', 'serafuku' etc).

-1. Both may appear to be similar sometimes, but definitely not allways; I would say that ahoge sometimes seems like a very particular (and somewhat toony) kind of cowlick, more than enough to be tagged distinctly.

I agree (but would say there is an intersection between them).

Oh yeah they definitely cross over at points, that's absolutely certain. I just think its v important to keep them separate because they do refer to different traits.

The fact they're undertagged just means we need to work on that.

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Ahoge are a specific form of Cowlick, they are not independent traits that occasionally overlap and they are not the same thing in that they can be aliased, former is specific while latter is general.

ahoge -> cowlick (implication)
cowlick -> hair {implication}

PS: for reference these are not hair styles, they arise naturally from how the roots of the hair are arranged around the head and direction of hair growth.

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Ruku said:
Ahoge are a specific form of Cowlick, they are not independent traits that occasionally overlap and they are not the same thing in that they can be aliased, former is specific while latter is general.

Sincerely, a single tip of hair that seems to be barely attached to the top of head, isn't under the consept of cowlick; hence ahoge may or may not overlap with cowlick.

Ruku said:
PS: for reference these are not hair styles, they arise naturally from how the roots of the hair are arranged around the head and direction of hair growth.

It is when someone comb and "model" its hair to look like these.

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