Topic: Tag Implication: gang_rape -> rape

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

I personally think rape should be tagged separately, and gang rape should be aliased to group sex. There are a number of posts tagged gang_rape in which the act of rape is not readily evident without outside information, which thus goes against TWYS. People seem to like tagging gang_rape in lieu of group_sex at times, have seen it happen on other NSFW imageboard sites as well.

Examples where no tears, visible anguish, hypnosis, struggle, or any other tell of rape is evident:
post #1239925 post #929054 post #146282
post #484392 (<--Only tell here is the facial expression, and it more looks like mere surprise than protest or consternation to me.)
post #437945 (<--Text here goes against the idea that this is a rape scenario.)
post #293721 (<--I would also argue this one also doesn't meet quality standards. Leftmost male Vaporeon's left arm is stubby, the overall image quality is inconsistent/rough in a non-stylized manner, the rightmost male lacks nipples when the other two DO have nipples...)
post #68601 (<--Only case of rape is the middle duo, where the girl is crying. Girls in the other pair and the threesome do not show any lack of consent. Thus, rape tag is valid, but gang_rape is not. Have thus removed the tag from it.)

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Azula_Arktandr said:
I personally think rape should be tagged separately, and gang rape should be aliased to group sex. There are a number of posts tagged gang_rape in which the act of rape is not readily evident without outside information, which thus goes against TWYS. People seem to like tagging gang_rape in lieu of group_sex at times, have seen it happen on other NSFW imageboard sites as well.

Examples where no tears, visible anguish, hypnosis, struggle, or any other tell of rape is evident:
post #1239925 post #929054 post #146282
post #484392 (<--Only tell here is the facial expression, and it more looks like mere surprise than protest or consternation to me.)
post #437945 (<--Text here goes against the idea that this is a rape scenario.)
post #293721 (<--I would also argue this one also doesn't meet quality standards. Leftmost male Vaporeon's left arm is stubby, the overall image quality is inconsistent/rough in a non-stylized manner, the rightmost male lacks nipples when the other two DO have nipples...)
post #68601 (<--Only case of rape is the middle duo, where the girl is crying. Girls in the other pair and the threesome do not show any lack of consent. Thus, rape tag is valid, but gang_rape is not. Have thus removed the tag from it.)

This thing you outlined here would inevitably lead to some dingaling not tagging rape, but then a post has gang_rape tagged on it as group_sex, then a bunch of people angry why their searches of -rape group_sex had gang rape posts in it, leading to a lol comments situation.

+1 for implicating as per O16's suggestion.

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Azula_Arktandr said:
I personally think rape should be tagged separately, and gang rape should be aliased to group sex. There are a number of posts tagged gang_rape in which the act of rape is not readily evident without outside information, which thus goes against TWYS. People seem to like tagging gang_rape in lieu of group_sex at times, have seen it happen on other NSFW imageboard sites as well.

Examples where no tears, visible anguish, hypnosis, struggle, or any other tell of rape is evident:
post #1239925 post #929054 post #146282

Actualy this isn't an "issue" exclusive of this tag, the 'rape' tag itself encompasses numerous cases which can't be fully confirmed as rape, just appear to be forced sexual act due to body position, facial expression, etc.; however I can say that 'rape' is still valid to many of those posts, and 'questionable_consent' would be a better fit for some others, but not so many.

Azula_Arktandr said:
post #484392 (<--Only tell here is the facial expression, and it more looks like mere surprise than protest or consternation to me.)

Well, for me this clearly seems to be rape; such degree of surprise denotes that the act isn't consensual.

Azula_Arktandr said:
post #437945 (<--Text here goes against the idea that this is a rape scenario.)

Then it simply is a mistag.

Azula_Arktandr said:
post #293721 (<--I would also argue this one also doesn't meet quality standards. Leftmost male Vaporeon's left arm is stubby, the overall image quality is inconsistent/rough in a non-stylized manner, the rightmost male lacks nipples when the other two DO have nipples...)

Sorry, but a fail at understanding the correlation between art quality and the questioning of it being rape or not (at least in this case).

Azula_Arktandr said:
post #68601 (<--Only case of rape is the middle duo, where the girl is crying. Girls in the other pair and the threesome do not show any lack of consent. Thus, rape tag is valid, but gang_rape is not. Have thus removed the tag from it.)

Then it simply is a mistag ...as you said.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Azula_Arktandr said:
Examples where no tears, visible anguish, hypnosis, struggle, or any other tell of rape is evident:
post #1239925 post #929054 post #146282

The middle one only shows three characters, so it shouldn't have been tagged as gang_rape anyway. Since gang_rape is closely related to gangbang, and should only be tagged if there's at least three characters on one. Two is not a gang.

That whole tag group is hard to keep in order. Gangbang gets mixed up with threesome and/or orgy all the time, so much that I haven't been able to keep up with that cleaning project. That's something to keep in mind when deciding what to do with the gang_rape tag.

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