Aliasing a → ambiguous_gender
Link to alias

Reason:

Shorthands specifically for genders/sexes sence we already have those for male and female

others:
i > intersex
h > Herm

single letter aliases are easy to typo.

, m/m and f/f are much more intentional.

something like a/g might work.

What if the image involves a giant live A?

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Honestly I would want to hold off on these sorts of things until some decision is made on the huge thread about intersex tags.

After all, if the eventual decision ends up going the way of andromorph/gynomorph, a might reasonably be confused for andromorph.

Knotty_Curls said:
single letter aliases are easy to typo.

m/f

, m/m and f/f are much more intentional.

something like a/g might work.

*/*

are for pairs of different or same sex

Im suggesting shorthands for the individual biological sexes. if the high risk of typos of single letter alias were true then we wouldnt have "m" or "f" aliased to anything>>

wait

we have those?

why do we have those

Knotty_Curls said:
wait

we have those?

why do we have those

If I'm not mistaken, to clean up issues where people goofed up the m/m f/f sorts of aliases and left a floating m or f hanging around.

Knotty_Curls said:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV92pSfOHqo

Clawdragons said:
Honestly I would want to hold off on these sorts of things until some decision is made on the huge thread about intersex tags.

After all, if the eventual decision ends up going the way of andromorph/gynomorph, a might reasonably be confused for andromorph.

A is already used for ambiguous/other pairings. If misinterpretation was an issue, we'd have to remove f -> female just in case someone confuses it for futanari. I know we don't use that tag here, but still.

Blame it on Rule34 for creating fucked-up tags.

Ruku said:
Aliasing a → ambiguous_gender
Link to alias

Reason:

Shorthands specifically for genders/sexes sence we already have those for male and female

others:
i > intersex
h > Herm

a is short for a lot of terms though. Adult, anthro, android...

kamimatsu said:
a is short for a lot of terms though. Adult, anthro, android...

same can be said for m aliased to male and f aliased to female thru, and we are not suffering from a mess of huge proportions.

Ruku said:
same can be said for m aliased to male and f aliased to female thru, and we are not suffering from a mess of huge proportions.

Right, but those are already commonly used. Just like lots of sites commonly use A to refer to the rating. You'd have people accidentally tagging ambiguous_gender as explicit because of the misunderstanding.

kamimatsu said:
Right, but those are already commonly used. Just like lots of sites commonly use A to refer to the rating. You'd have people accidentally tagging ambiguous_gender as explicit because of the misunderstanding.

commonly used would be the point, their common use started somewhere, they wernt always known and see where they are today. Thats the problem with using "uncommon to be used" as a excuse against anything, everything started somewhere and if we were bound by this one excuse then nothing would exist.

Also mind you but if we had such a problem with ratings then we would already have dozens of posted being posted regularly under "a", people arnt just suddenly going wake up and use the ratings of anouther site. after 8 years of understanding for most part and using e621s present terms

I'm not using uncommon usage to argue against it. I'm using the opposite to explain the existence of something that you mentioned. The inverse isn't necessarily true.

-1. It's too easy to mistag, because a is a word. Lots of artists put stuff like a happy red fox in the tags which would mess up the e6 tags if this was aliased.

-1. NO one letter tags should alias to anything, that includes M and F.

leomole said:
-1. It's too easy to mistag, because a is a word. Lots of artists put stuff like a happy red fox in the tags which would mess up the e6 tags if this was aliased.

Could you please give me any actual examples where that has come up on e621 it self? Posts or records were this shows up.
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And no you are not kamimatsu, you are implying that because its presently uncommon to use A to act as a shorthand for ambiguous_gender that we shouldnt use it and also implying that A on e621 would be easly mistaken for usage its designated for on other sites unrelated to e621, when there is no evidence for that improper use to happen because as said if there was that confusion then people would already be misusing A for a long time. Might point out "m" is used to denote mature works on some sites while "f" is used on many image boards to denote furry centrist art. I dont see mistags based of those so your reasoning really doesnt have much truth to it.

Ruku said:
Could you please give me any actual examples where that has come up on e621 it self?

Here's the tag history of a: https://e621.net/post_tag_history?tags=+a+

As you can see a has been tagged hundreds of times, and not for posts with ambiguous_gender. So this alias is not a good idea.

Ruku said:I dont see mistags based of those so your reasoning really doesnt have much truth to it.

That's because my argument was that those ARE commonly used, not that "a" ISN'T. I'm explaining that they aren't mistaken because they are commonly uses. It's an explanation for why there is no evidence of it. Not why it's acceptable. You're assuming I'm saying something I've already told you I'm not, and building off that.

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Like said, "a" is actually used by itself in english language, so even just someone disregarding the tagging help and writing everything in sentences (like many do on FA because "haha tags who uses them", meanwhile their art can't be found because of google bot restriction and bad search) or writing words without underscore and articles intact.

And overall one letter aliases are bad idea. Even I have typoed couple times by pressing space after writing first letter of the word or alternatively you can easily give tools for someone to misstag on purpose by simply going trough whole keyboard keys.

Also if you are like me that I need to double check something as I do not remember how it was written in english, because I can see ambiguous being one of those words for some, either have google translate open on other tab, keep personal txt file and/or use macros on keyboard.

A particularly likely point to mistags is the unown pokemon. I started up a trend of tagging their letter forms as things like unown_g, but before that people would have unown g without an underscore. If there's an Unown M, F, A, H, C, or D, the aliases would suddenly make it unown male, female, ambiguous_gender, hermaphrodite, cuntboy, or dickgirl as soon as a tagger unfamiliar with this unown tagging process tags them.

Denied, too vague.