Topic: Lone intersex tag (TAG PROJECT)

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

https://e621.net/post/index/1/intersex%20-dickgirl%20-cuntboy%20-maleherm%20-herm

A tagging project I'm working on.

BACKGROUND

Intersex is a tag that is implicated to tags such as dickgirl, cuntboy, herm, and maleherm. Unless it's a special case, it's rarely by itself. Yet there are 13 pages of posts just like that...

So I will tag things accordingly, and remove the intersex tag when it needs to be.

See How To Tag Genders for help on... Tagging genders.

STUFF FOR ME TO COPY/PASTE BECAUSE LAZY

And, uh, I don't want carpal tunnel.

GENDER/GENDER

Stitch these words together for pairing tags!

ambiguous/
female/
male/
dickgirl/
cuntboy/
herm/
maleherm/
intersex/

GENDER IN GENERAL

ambiguous_gender
male
female
dickgirl
cuntboy
herm
maleherm

UNSORTED

VERDICT IS

HELP ME TAG
POSSIBLY WATCH THESE POSTS

Just a reminder for myself, typically for posts that could brew into tag wars:

Post shows a cuntboy, but outside sources claim it to be a female. Slight edit warring.

Post shows a cuntboy. Outside source claims it to be male. Lots of edit warring over gender, usually leaving a lone intersex tag.

Reverted changes back to dickgirl. Edit warring resulting in lone intersex tag.

A bit different, but this is NOT an intersex. No tits visible, only dick. Clearly a girly male, but one lone user keep reverting it back to dickgirl.

Post clearly shows a dickgirl with definided breasts, but outside sources claim it's a femboy. Lots of edit warring.

Ambig horses, but one user tags them as male based on what they know.

This post AND it's parent post are 2 guys fucking each other, but outside sources claim them to be dickgirls

I will link to posts that I'm having trouble determining the genders to here, so check back occasionally.

I have no idea if this is the correct category to post this to, feel free to move it.

Updated

As for now, I'm going to bed because I took some NyQuil and I can feel it kicking in.

If staring at furry junk and painstakingly determining the genders sounds like fun, then perhaps help out a bit? ;)

Updated by anonymous

https://e621.net/post/show/197168

Futashy is a herm, as implied by the name and pretty much every other pic of them.

But there is not visible genitalia at all, so she could either be a herm, a dickgirl, a female pony grinding, or ambiguous. I have no clue what to tag that as...

Updated by anonymous

Clitheroe said:

https://e621.net/post/show/300738

I know nothing of this... Guild wars thing.

Should it be tagged as cuntboy, or should I remove the intersex tag and keep it female?

Read the wiki regarding Charr. If you dont know dont touch it. Rule of thumb.

Clitheroe said:
https://e621.net/post/show/364979

"Female" hyena. Don't know if I should leave the intersex tag or not...

Definitely not intersex. I went ahead and removed the tag. Thats just how female hyenas are naturally.

Updated by anonymous

Huh, I guess I didn't see the "Charr" tag. So I'll remove the intersex tag, then.

Updated by anonymous

This one's a bit complex:

https://e621.net/post/show/586896

LOTTA TEXT

The pikachus with vaginas all have no heart-tail tip. For those not familiar with the pokemon games, pikachus with heart tips are female. These pikachus have no heart tip, meaning that they would be cuntboys. In the past, posts dealing with pika-tails have had varying admin rulings.

To further complicate things, the artist uploaded this, a fixed version with the heart tails, making them female in that post.

But that still leaves the question of post 586896: Does the female tag stay and the intersex get removed, or does the female tag get replaced with cuntboy?

Updated by anonymous

Clitheroe said:
https://e621.net/post/show/197168

Futashy is a herm, as implied by the name and pretty much every other pic of them.

But there is not visible genitalia at all, so she could either be a herm, a dickgirl, a female pony grinding, or ambiguous. I have no clue what to tag that as...

Male. She's obviously penetrating the human Rarity, and no other trait of genitals is shown. Maybe girly, but I'd not personally add it.

Clitheroe said:
This one's a bit complex:

https://e621.net/post/show/586896

LOTTA TEXT

The pikachus with vaginas all have no heart-tail tip. For those not familiar with the pokemon games, pikachus with heart tips are female. These pikachus have no heart tip, meaning that they would be cuntboys. In the past, posts dealing with pika-tails have had varying admin rulings.

To further complicate things, the artist uploaded this, a fixed version with the heart tails, making them female in that post.

But that still leaves the question of post 586896: Does the female tag stay and the intersex get removed, or does the female tag get replaced with cuntboy?

Cleft tail has no bearing on a Pikachu's gender. You can have solo male pikachu cleft_tail and solo female pikachu -cleft_tail.
Anybody who's trying to tag it as intersex because they have flat tails should be reported.

Updated by anonymous

Regarding the eagle post. General consensus is that its intersex with the cboy tag.

I fundamentally disagree because the assumption is based on the subject which SEEMS to be oviposition to some. Im assuming.

However as the post is of an eagle/avian character it is very likely that isnt a vagina. Theres no notable "vulva" its more a genital_slit so its very likely that it should actually be tagged as male large_insertion and cloaca, not cboy and pussy at all.

While the rules generally say outside sources are not to be payed attention to. I believe this is a case where its all the more reason to as the artist seems to corroborate this fact.

It should be tagged male. Not intersex. On the grounds it is avian, features resemble a cloaca not a vulva and the subject of oviposition and or large insertion has NEVER been only a "female" thing.

Updated by anonymous

I'mma join in and fix up some of the ones that are more obvious, maybe cut down on the numbers so that the ones that require discussion can be focused on.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Clitheroe said:
https://e621.net/post/show/660764

Can't see the lower genitalia. I can see tits, but there is definite thrusting of some sort. Either it's a dickgirl or just a female with a strap-on??? Sounds a bit farfetched but...

In such cases, if there's no strap visible, you can assume that the character has a penis.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
In such cases, if there's no strap visible, you can assume that the character has a penis.

I've mentioned it before and I'll say it again, that's a really freaking weird assumption that we make.

Like, in real life, there are drastically more lesbians in the world than there are females with penises. But if we can't see the genitals, we assume a penis, not a strap on. Despite the fact that we can't see either.

And the argument "well, dickgirls are more common in the furry fandom" only holds so much weight. Some relevant searches:

dickgirl - 227 pages of results
dickgirl penis (excludes the sorts of examples above) - 204 pages of results.
female/female - 160 pages of results
~dickgirl/female ~dickgirl/male ~dickgirl/dickgirl ~dickgirl/cuntboy ~dickgirl/herm ~dickgirl/ambiguous - 71 pages of results
dickgirl/female - 35 pages of results.
female - 3871 pages of results.

As would be expected, females are drastically more common than dickgirls (approximately 17 females for each dickgirl).

It's difficult to compare dickgirls with lesbians, but I attempted that with the large search above - which indicates that dickgirls engaged with any partner are far less common than females engaged with another female. Things are even more skewed when you look at the more restrictive comparison of dickgirl/female and female/female. As it happens, female/female pairings are still about 4.5 times as common.

So if it is far less common in reality, and far less common in art, and it relies on assumptions that run contrary to how we would usually tag... Why is this our "default" assumption?

It makes very little sense when you actually look at the numbers.

Updated by anonymous

Its more likely to assume strap on. Its more reasonable to as well as Clawdragons said.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte

Former Staff

Things like cleft tails on pikachus aren't used for determining gender, nor are "canonical genders" like Futashy. Go with what you actually see.

Updated by anonymous

Woah, pulling a muscle in my lower back made me miss lots of things... Ha.

Will work more on this tomorrow. Thanks for staring at furry junk for me in the mean time, guys!

...Only in the furry fandom do we have debates over strap on-wearing lesbians and dickgirls...

EDIT: If I sound a bit wonky, it's because I'm on painkillers. And more nyquil (my doctor said they won't react together so I'm trusting them)

Updated by anonymous

Siral_Exan said:
It's a tentacle, so I wouldn't even say intersex. It is not a penis, that's for sure...

Hmm. Removing intersex, then.

Updated by anonymous

Bimpity Bump, still alive. Edited "watched posts".

Also still editing tags. Had to deal with somebody mucking up tags a few days ago.

Updated by anonymous

New watched post!

If people keep edit warring over certain posts, report them and revert changes. Always remember to tag ONLY what you see and not what you know, unless it's expected otherwise (i.e. Minnie Mouse (a popular known female) with a flat chest and vagina should be tagged female unless otherwise stated within the picture, etc).

Now, back to sifting through copious amounts of furry junk to tag :'D

Updated by anonymous

Clitheroe said:
New watched post!

If people keep edit warring over certain posts, report them and revert changes. Always remember to tag ONLY what you see and not what you know, unless it's expected otherwise (i.e. Minnie Mouse (a popular known female) with a flat chest and vagina should be tagged female unless otherwise stated within the picture, etc).

Now, back to sifting through copious amounts of furry junk to tag :'D

Nope. "What you know" is only valid for Crossgender. If you see Minie Mouse without any gender traits, it's still ambiguous.

Updated by anonymous

Furrin_Gok said:
Nope. "What you know" is only valid for Crossgender. If you see Minie Mouse without any gender traits, it's still ambiguous.

Here's a conundrum: How would you sort out normal versions, genderswap versions and intersex versions of Mickie and Minnie Mouse when after removing clothes and accessories, the only noticeable difference between them is Minnie has eyelashes and Mickey doesn't?

Updated by anonymous

Moar philosophical debates on furry porn D:

And... I guess that would make sense to tag it as ambig, but then there have been times when admins stepped in and said to stop tagging as ambig... And then there are situations like Charrs...

...Quite a mess, init? Oh well, that's why we have inane chatter about furry junk :D

Updated by anonymous

Had to revert tacks someone mucked up.

Honestly, if people don't know how to tag, leave it alone for someone else. Never thought I'd say that...

Updated by anonymous

I can NOT stress this enough:

If you're removing a tag like herm, cuntboy, maleherm, or dickgirl, REMOVE THE INTERSEX TAG AS WELL!

Don't just leave it there...

Updated by anonymous

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