Aliasing tomboy → boyish
Link to alias

Reason:

For consistency with femboy being aliased to girly

-1
Femboy refers to physically effeminate males.
Tomboy refers to females that partake in traditionally masculine activities or dress in male clothing and often interact in a masculine manner, tomboy however does not imply a masculine body build.
Boyish refers to a males physical likeness, or figure that is physically male like, proper terminology on e621 for this would be manly

In short former is dress and personality, latter is body physique, as well as improper terminology.

Ruku said:
-1
Femboy refers to physically effeminate males.
Tomboy refers to females that partake in traditionally masculine activities or dress in male clothing and often interact in a masculine manner, tomboy however does not imply a masculine body build.
Boyish refers to a males physical likeness, or figure that is physically male like, proper terminology on e621 for this would be manly

In short former is dress and personality, latter is body physique, as well as improper terminology.

Actually, both physique and behavior/style may be relevant factors in both cases.

girly

post #1123037 · post #1251940

tomboy

post #1243967 · post #301397

Ruku said:
-1
Femboy refers to physically effeminate males.
Tomboy refers to females that partake in traditionally masculine activities or dress in male clothing and often interact in a masculine manner, tomboy however does not imply a masculine body build.
Boyish refers to a males physical likeness, or figure that is physically male like, proper terminology on e621 for this would be manly

In short former is dress and personality, latter is body physique, as well as improper terminology.

We can't judge a character's personality. We tag what we see, ie, physical likeness, either in musculature and fat, or in pose. Therefore, to us, they are one and the same.

+1.

O16 said:
Actually, both physique and behavior/style may be relevant factors in both cases.

girly

post #1123037 · post #1251940

tomboy

post #1243967 · post #301397

Tomboy does not refer to physique nether here or in its definition on wikipedia of any other dictonary, even other tags like manly or girly reference the link to tomboy as being behavioral, not physical.

Furrin_Gok said:
We can't judge a character's personality. We tag what we see, ie, physical likeness, either in musculature and fat, or in pose. Therefore, to us, they are one and the same.

+1.

As ive said to 016 tomboy does not refer to a characters physique and never has anywhere, that is what manly is for, boyish stands for something completely different from what tomboy is. Il also add that by definition tomboy is restricted to females while boyish accounts for any biological gender(sex) or lack there of.
I would suggest checking all the wikis and also looking up the definitions of all these terms before commenting.

If you insist then id advise invalidating tomboy as it appears not to be twys.

What about tomgirl?

Ruku said:
Tomboy does not refer to physique nether here or in its definition on wikipedia of any other dictonary, even other tags like manly or girly reference the link to tomboy as being behavioral, not physical.As ive said to 016 tomboy does not refer to a characters physique and never has anywhere, that is what manly is for, boyish stands for something completely different from what tomboy is. Il also add that by definition tomboy is restricted to females while boyish accounts for any biological gender(sex) or lack there of.
I would suggest checking all the wikis and also looking up the definitions of all these terms before commenting.

If you insist then id advise invalidating tomboy as it appears not to be twys.

I) '~female ~dickgirl ~herm -maleherm solo manly' return only one result, which is a mistag¹, but 'tomboy solo muscular' return a couple of them. That isn't the solidest evidence, but already shows that 'tomboy' is a better fit for cases of masculinized characters with female body.

II) I never said that 'tomboy' or 'girly' refer to physique, I said that both physique and behavior/style may be relevant factors.

III) The reason for physique be a more prominent feature on girly individual is actually very simple: is easier for male individuals to have a feminine body than for female individuals to have masculine body (this due to low levels of testosterone).
In another words, in both cases physique may be a relevant factor, however this is just less common in tomboys, really less common.

IV₁) All the sources I came across mentioned girls, not women; so perhaps they aren't exactly reliable considering the context of this site.

IV₂) This fact may explain why those don't mention physique as well, since is even rarer to expect a girl to have masculine body.

¹ I only haven't fixed it yet because that would be "evidence hiding"

p.s. "016"!?

How often would you find a muscular female that isn't boyish? The muscles alone would push her into boyish territory.

BlueDingo said:
How often would you find a muscular female that isn't boyish? The muscles alone would push her into boyish territory.

O16 seemed to agree with you:

O16 said:
post #1243967

But I say this one isn't boyish. Muscular_Female and tomboy female are two different things.

I)
- 91k+ in muscular
- 381 in tomboy
- 24 in tomboy + solo + muscular (28 if we ignore solo)

thats not even a quarter, doesnt seem like a good or better fit to me.

PS: tomboy + big_muscles + solo = 0

II)
Actually you did,"referring to physique" and "considering physique as part of relivant factors" mean the same thing.

Actually, both physique and behavior/style may be relevant factors in both cases.

III)
prominance has nothing to do here, tomboy and girly are not polar opposites, the opposite of girly is manly, the opposite of tomboy is femboy but the latter got aliased to girly because the staff at the time made a mistake asssuming they were synonymous.

IV)
there is also cuntboy, dickgirl, femboy, girly and the afore mentioned boyish and a number of other terms. By spelling alone one would assume all of these apply to just children but we of cource know from wikis as well as external references like dictionaries that none of these are actually age related.

BlueDingo said:
How often would you find a muscular female that isn't boyish? The muscles alone would push her into boyish territory.

Its not a question if muscular females are boyish.

The question is if tomboy and boyish stand for the same thing or not, and as such should be alias or not.

BlueDingo said:
How often would you find a muscular female that isn't boyish? The muscles alone would push her into boyish territory.

The examples gave earlier were to show that both behaviour/style and physique are relevant, however not determinant.

Furrin_Gok said:
O16 seemed to agree with you:

But I say this one isn't boyish. Muscular_Female and tomboy female are two different things.

I) No, I dont. As I said above.

II) It isn't a inflexible concept, in other words, is OK to disagree.

III) true, but may be correlated at some degree.

Ruku said:
I)
- 91k+ in muscular
- 381 in tomboy
- 24 in tomboy + solo + muscular (28 if we ignore solo)

thats not even a quarter, doesnt seem like a good or better fit to me.

PS: tomboy + big_muscles + solo = 0

I as comparing 'tomboy' and 'manly' relative to characters with female body.

Ruku said:
II)
Actually you did,"referring to physique" and "considering physique as part of relivant factors" mean the same thing.

No. In this context "refering to" is more direct and specific, it is determinant; "be relavant to" just means these factors matter to the analysis in question.

Ruku said:
III)
prominance has nothing to do here, tomboy and girly are not polar opposites, the opposite of girly is manly, the opposite of tomboy is femboy but the latter got aliased to girly because the staff at the time made a mistake asssuming they were synonymous.

The terms 'girly' and 'manly' are opposites because those refer to individuals with male body that have accentuated feminine or masculine characteristics (respectively).
The terms 'girly' and 'tomboy' aren't opposites, but reflexes of each other, since both refer to individuals with accentuated characteristics of the opposite sex.

So, if you allow me to ask, why do you consider 'femboy' and 'girly' as non-synonyms?

Ruku said:
IV)
there is also cuntboy, dickgirl, femboy, girly and the afore mentioned boyish and a number of other terms. By spelling alone one would assume all of these apply to just children but we of cource know from wikis as well as external references like dictionaries that none of these are actually age related.

Those terms you have mentioned doesn't preserve the full meaning of the parts which compose them; actually this is pretty common regarding neologisms like those.

The word 'girl' means young woman, at least in a formal context, which usually is the same one found in dictionary sites, even when the word being clarified in the entry is informal.