Topic: Change Quetzalcoatl tag from species to character

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Quetzalcoatl is a deity, not a species, there was only one of him in Mayan/Aztec mythology. And Quetzalcoatl was his NAME, not the name of his species.

If Quetzalcoatl is listed as a species then logically Zeus and Poseidon would be listed as species tags as well. Which is ridiculous.

Updated by Genjar

Zreig said:
Quetzalcoatl is a deity, not a species, there was only one of him in Mayan/Aztec mythology. And Quetzalcoatl was his NAME, not the name of his species.

If Quetzalcoatl is listed as a species then logically Zeus and Poseidon would be listed as species tags as well. Which is ridiculous.

yeah, we already have feathered_serpent as a species tag

Updated by anonymous

In addition to the tag for feathered_serpent, the tag for a "winged serpent" is couatl.

Also, you should try making a link to the tag in question, especially when it's one so easily typo'd like quetzalcoatl. You can do this with brackets: [[quetzalcoatl]].

Updated by anonymous

Furrin_Gok said:
In addition to the tag for feathered_serpent, the tag for a "winged serpent" is couatl.

Also, you should try making a link to the tag in question, especially when it's one so easily typo'd like quetzalcoatl. You can do this with brackets: [[quetzalcoatl]].

Made an edit; thanks for the info.

Updated by anonymous

cerberus and minotaur are not species either, they are specific mythological characters, but they get tagged as such since the tags and the terms are used as species rather than for it's original purpose. same thing is with quetzalcoatl tag

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Genjar

Former Staff

Eggplant said:
cerberus and minotaur are not species either, they are specific mythological characters, but they get tagged as such since the tags and the terms are used as species rather than for it's original purpose. same thing is with quetzalcoatl tag

Except in this instance the species is generally known as couatl, especially in various RPGs. Which does leave quetzalcoatl open as a possible character tag, that name is almost always used to refer to the deity instead of the species.

Though it should be split: it looks like a mix of quetzalcoatl_(deity) and various characters.

Updated by anonymous

I feel quetzalcoatl should be left as a character tag and that couatl or feathered serpent be the species tag, kinda like how Anubis is a character tag.

Updated by anonymous

I feel like Anubis isn't a good comparison, considering Anubis has a pretty standardized look in modern depictions, whereas depictions of Quetzalcoatl vary wildly.

I'm not entirely sure what the solution should be here, but comparing Quetzalcoatl to other diety characters, or even just other characters in general, he seems to be a bit of an odd one out, in that the results you get don't actually look like they're all of the same character, unless you look at the actual ancient art, which does maintain consistency (but is also not at all like what he looks like in modern renditions, so that's kind of irrelevant).

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Clawdragons said:
I feel like Anubis isn't a good comparison, considering Anubis has a pretty standardized look in modern depictions, whereas depictions of Quetzalcoatl vary wildly.

I'm not entirely sure what the solution should be here, but comparing Quetzalcoatl to other diety characters, or even just other characters in general, he seems to be a bit of an odd one out, in that the results you get don't actually look like they're all of the same character, unless you look at the actual ancient art, which does maintain consistency (but is also not at all like what he looks like in modern renditions, so that's kind of irrelevant).

fair enough, but imho Quetzalcoatl isnt a good species tag for the same reason: most interpretations of it as a species vary wildly, even if they all tend to be feathered or winged serpents. That's why I feel coatl or winged/feathered serpent works better and is more specific, personally.

Updated by anonymous

I say just go with "winged_serpent" or "feathered_serpent." KISS. Quetawhatl or even just coatl are weird words and many may not even know they're a thing. But when someone sees these things they see a snek with wings/feathers so it only makes sense they'd simply put winged/feathered serpent as a tag.

While using actual names that have been established is well and good it's often best to just keep things nice and simple. If I were searching this stuff I wouldn't be thinking of some fancy name, I'd type in "winged_serpent" first, if that didn't bring up anything I'd try "feathered_serpent" second. If that didn't bring up anything I'd mash the words together like "wingedserpent" on the off change there was no space and if that didn't bring anything I'd just give up.

Most don't use the proper terms for these creatures frequently enough in real life to think of such things when searching. For that reason it's best to just keep the terms simple.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Feathered serpent covers far more than just couatls, so no, that's not a good option. They should be implicated there, but not aliased.

Updated by anonymous

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