Implicating baguette → bread
Link to implication

Reason:

Is a type of bread; also seems to be enough recognzable to warrant its own tag (hence an alias probably wouldn't be appropriate).

Related implications:

• inbread → bread.¹
• sandwich_(food) → bread.²

Partially related implications:

• burger → sandwich_(food).

¹ If a character is stuck in a bread, so there is a bread.
² By definition, a sandwich needs bread to exists, in such a way it is only identifiable if bread is visible.

EDIT: The tag implication burger -> sandwich_(food) (forum #230740) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

EDIT: The tag implication sandwich_(food) -> bread (forum #230740) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

there are 22 posts in baguette and of those only 9 have bread. i agree with the implication.

Baguette hon hon +1

+1.
Relatedly:
Croissant i-> bread

Approved OP.

Please remind me about those other implications.

inbread should probably be a more specific tag, like face_in_bread. Open to suggestion.

Every other suggestion here is among those pedantic suggestions that I complain about. I've placed them in the queue. Stop messaging me about these.

Knotty_Curls said:
inbread should probably be a more specific tag, like face_in_bread. Open to suggestion.

Every other suggestion here is among those pedantic suggestions that I complain about. I've placed them in the queue. Stop messaging me about these.

if i didnt see the wiki then i would have assumed inbread would have been a misspelling of "inbred"... just saying.
Just because its a meme does not excuse proper formating.

could make that but then we would also need a body_in_bread and character_in_bread(or just food in general)..

O16 said:
burger → sandwich_(food).

KFC Double Down Burger

Knotty_Curls said:
inbread should probably be a more specific tag, like face_in_bread. Open to suggestion.

How about just in_bread? That'd preserve the pun, while making the usage more obvious.

Anyway, -1 to the other implications. I wouldn't expect to see burgers if I search for sandwiches.

Approved the croissant -> bread implication. Didn't notice it when I revisited the thread.

in_bread will carry the bread implication, as it is more deliberate than inbread. I've pushed a one-time alias to clean this.

Considering disambiguating inbread. It will direct to either in_bread or incest. Inbred will probably be aliased to the disambiguation, as it has a high potential to be used as a troll tag.

post #123909 post #9544

Pretty funny though.

UPDATE: inbred_(disambiguation) is now live. It's currently clean. If someone better at formatting wiki pages could take a look at it, that would be awesome.

Knotty_Curls said:
Stop messaging me about these.

Sorry for the nuisance.
I only contacted you because you requested to be reminded, also I couldn't knew if the mail had been read since there was no reply.

Genjar said:

Anyway, -1 to the other implications. I wouldn't expect to see burgers if I search for sandwiches.

I didn't suggested implicating 'hot_dog' to 'sandwich' for a similar reason; despite of hot-dog technically being a sandwich, many people disagree on that.
The difference between hot-dog and burger, in this case, is that there is a considerable consensus about the latter being a sandwich (this is stated in the wiki as well).

BlueDingo said:
KFC Double Down Burger

Actually I can't even surely tell what that amber thing is; if it is burger meat, then that dish neither is a sandwich nor fit in the way we use the 'burger' tag.

-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-

I can't see any counterargument about implicating 'sandwich_(food) → bread'. I didn't found exceptions and any one that I can imagine would be a mistag.

O16 said:
Actually I can't even surely tell what that amber thing is; if it is burger meat, then that dish neither is a sandwich nor fit in the way we use the 'burger' tag.

It's called a Double Down (info) and is marketed as a burger without a bun. It's also a delicious way to clog your arteries.

BlueDingo said:
It's called a Double Down (info) and is marketed as a burger without a bun. It's also a delicious way to clog your arteries.

I see... Wait, was your first post a joke?
If yes, then sorry for the misunderstanding.

O16 said:
The difference between hot-dog and burger, in this case, is that there is a considerable consensus about the latter being a sandwich (this is stated in the wiki as well).

As far as I'm concerned, burgers aren't sandwiches.
For instance, you wouldn't try to make a burger in a sandwich grill, unless you want to ruin it. And if I ordered a sandwich in a restaurant, I'd be quite cross if I got a burger instead.

Genjar said:
As far as I'm concerned, burgers aren't sandwiches.
For instance, you wouldn't try to make a burger in a sandwich grill, unless you want to ruin it. And if I ordered a sandwich in a restaurant, I'd be quite cross if I got a burger instead.

What is your stance on subs/heroes/hoagies/insertoneoftwentyothernameshere?

BlueDingo said:
What is your stance on subs/heroes/hoagies/insertoneoftwentyothernameshere?

Looks like a panini, therefore a sandwich.

Genjar said:
Looks like a panini, therefore a sandwich.

If you replace the filling with a sausage, you end up with a very big hotdog.

If you cut the roll completely in half, you end up with a very long burger.

BlueDingo said:
If you replace the filling with a sausage, you end up with a very big hotdog.

Yes, and then it could hardly be called a sandwich.

If you cut the roll completely in half, you end up with a very long burger.

With the same fillings, no burger patty? Still a sandwich, as far as I see it. Is this an another cultural thing?

It's all about the fillings over here: hot dogs have sausages, burgers have patties, sandwiches are filled with deli (such as meat slices, cheese, veggies). Hot dogs and burgers are heated, sandwiches can be eaten cold.

Genjar said:
Yes, and then it could hardly be called a sandwich.

So a bun with a sausage in it is not a sandwich, but a bun with anything else in it is?

Genjar said:
With the same fillings, no burger patty?

Subs usually have meat on them, usually in the form of strips or slices.

Genjar said:
Still a sandwich, as far as I see it. Is this an another cultural thing?

No. I'm just sussing out what stipulations you have for which sandwiched count as a sandwiches.

arguing over the definition of a sandwich is like arguing over the definition of porn. you know it when you see it, and any talk beyond that is silliness.

Genjar said:
It's all about the fillings over here: hot dogs have sausages, burgers have patties, sandwiches are filled with deli (such as meat slices, cheese, veggies).

So sausages between slices of bread is not a sandwich? Sausage sandwiches are common at aussie barbecues.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/sausage-sandwich-13466031.jpg

Genjar said:
Hot dogs and burgers are heated, sandwiches can be eaten cold.

You can eat frankfurts cold.

BlueDingo said:
So sausages between slices of bread is not a sandwich? Sausage sandwiches are common at aussie barbecues.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/sausage-sandwich-13466031.jpg

Not shaped like a hot dog, and there's more than one sausage. Definitely a sandwich. (Also looks more delicious than a hot dog, but that's beside the point.)

Genjar said:
Not shaped like a hot dog, and there's more than one sausage. Definitely a sandwich. (Also looks more delicious than a hot dog, but that's beside the point.)

But earlier, you said it was about the filling, not the shape. I couldn't find a single sausage one quickly enough.

And they are delicious, especially with a nice coating of BBQ sauce.

I believe we can all agree that a sandwich is at least 2 layers of bread with a assortment of meats, jellies or nutmixes wedged between among other ingredients to be eaten by hand rather then fork or spoon(in the case of the ingredients not being held in the bread) as well as toning down the flavors that would otherwise be quite strong without the bread.

I define by propose, not look or content.

filling does not define if something is a sandwich or not, burgers, subs, hot dogs, panini and such are all types of sanwiches as far as im concerned. And most certainly not in todays world where fastfood chains are stuffing breakfast meals in sanwiches now and days>_>

PS: pretty much everything that has been described in this thread so far can technically be eaten warm or cold, i would mostly only be careful about burgers that make use of patties made of ground beef or ground pork...

PPS:
Added that burger is refered to as a sandwich by the admin who wrote the wiki as well as the main entry on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger

Technically hot-dogs are sandwiches, however the general opinion (EUA) is divided regarding this subject. I believe this is due differences regarding the filling:

I) For the majority of the saduwiches letuce, tomato, cheese slices, onion, eggs etc. are optional filings, but that isn't true for hot-dogs.

II) The majority of the sandwiches have plane (sometimes layered) filling, but hot-dogs have a cylindric one.

III) Potato sticks, peas, corn, grated cheese etc. are "acceptable" complementary fillings for hot-dogs, but usually aren't for sandwiches in general.

_^.

Note: none of these statements are absolute.

Genjar said:
As far as I'm concerned, burgers aren't sandwiches.
For instance, you wouldn't try to make a burger in a sandwich grill, unless you want to ruin it.

In this case what influence the most is:

I) The type of bread (some kinds of bread are preferable if not crushed).

II) Regional tastes (where I live is actually common to put burgers in sandwich grills).

Genjar said:

It's all about the fillings over here: hot dogs have sausages, burgers have patties, sandwiches are filled with deli (such as meat slices, cheese, veggies).

Since "deli" is a common complementary filing for burgers as well, your argument sounds more like in favor of burgers being sandwiches than the opposite.

Genjar said:
Hot dogs and burgers are heated, sandwiches can be eaten cold.

Most kinds of meat are usually eaten hot/warm; so hot-dogs, beef sandwiches, sausage sandwiches, burgers etc. are usually eaten hot/warm. Temperature simply doesn't seems to be an efficient differentiation criterion.

Here's a wrench to throw into the works: Soft Tacos. It contains a meat and veg filling wrapped in a tortilla, which is flatbread, which is bread.

BlueDingo said:
Here's a wrench to throw into the works: Soft Tacos. It contains a meat and veg filling wrapped in a tortilla, which is flatbread, which is bread.

Actual bread is considerably aerated (due to long proofing). If something is made of "bread dough" but isn't properly aeratend, then it isn't bread (e.g. pizza).

Note: "flat bread" can't be aerated because it is too thin to retain enough air.

this thread is why i drink

This surprisingly intense discussion about sandwiches is getting a bit off-topic, it probably would demand its own thread.

For now, we probably should resume and stick with the 'sandwich_(food) → bread' suggestion. Since there is little to no arguing against it I think it wouldn't be a big deal.

The tag implication burger -> sandwich_(food) (forum #230740) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

The tag implication sandwich_(food) -> bread (forum #230740) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.