Drawing.

Ever want to quit but can't?
ever feel you're not good enough,
but it feels like you still
want to keep on drawing
with no reason but starting to feel depress because of it?

Nope.

stalkerd said:
Drawing.

Ever want to quit but can't?
ever feel you're not good enough,
but it feels like you still
want to keep on drawing
with no reason but starting to feel depress because of it?

Yeah.

But I quit.

I hate myself for it.

I wasn't great, but I let what other people said to me push my down. I let them win, and in the last 10 years I've made as much art as I would have in a week before.

Every time I try to draw, try to create art again, to make something flitting around in my head, I choke. Everything I create I loathe.

For a little while, I made art again. Just a little bit. But it wasn't drawing, not really. It was talented mimicry of an idea. Like decorating a cake. Made it pretty, made some art, but really, what matters is the cake itself, not how pretty it is.

I wish, more than anything that when little 22 year old me had been struggling with her art, that I had told the person who told me that my art was bad that their opinion didn't matter. That I was going to keep going, even if I hadn't figured out what I wanted my art to be yet.

I let them stop me. And I stopped improving. I didn't grow. I try to draw again and nothing's changed. Except me. If I'd kept drawing, I'd have improved. I'd've gotten out of that awkward place I was in--somewhere between cartoon and anime. I draw now and see a weeaboo piece of shit and I don't know how to fix it... because I let myself stop.

I wish more than anything that I had kept going. It was rough, but if you just keep walking forward, no matter what, you keep changing.

An artist will always seem room to improve. The grass will always be greener, and we will always keep stretching for that.

But we won't go anywhere unless we keep walking.

Keep walking, Stalkerd. Don't quit. Don't let your at get you down either. I know it feels like the great artists just poop out good work without even trying, but they've spent so much time practicing and working at it. For every picture they post, there are dozens of crappy sketches that get thrown out, books full of doodles and practice and shit.

Keep on drawing. and know that every picture brings you closer to where you want to be. Even if the road here is muddy and thick, it'll get better. Just keep drawing.

Nah. I didn't choose the art life, the art life chose me.

Sometimes you have ridden your bicycle for the past 68 miles and you can't stand to go one more. But you have to bust that nut. 　　　　　Permanently.　　　　　

SnowWolf said:
Yeah.

But I quit.

I hate myself for it.

I wasn't great, but I let what other people said to me push my down. I let them win, and in the last 10 years I've made as much art as I would have in a week before.

Every time I try to draw, try to create art again, to make something flitting around in my head, I choke. Everything I create I loathe.

For a little while, I made art again. Just a little bit. But it wasn't drawing, not really. It was talented mimicry of an idea. Like decorating a cake. Made it pretty, made some art, but really, what matters is the cake itself, not how pretty it is.

I wish, more than anything that when little 22 year old me had been struggling with her art, that I had told the person who told me that my art was bad that their opinion didn't matter. That I was going to keep going, even if I hadn't figured out what I wanted my art to be yet.

I let them stop me. And I stopped improving. I didn't grow. I try to draw again and nothing's changed. Except me. If I'd kept drawing, I'd have improved. I'd've gotten out of that awkward place I was in--somewhere between cartoon and anime. I draw now and see a weeaboo piece of shit and I don't know how to fix it... because I let myself stop.

I wish more than anything that I had kept going. It was rough, but if you just keep walking forward, no matter what, you keep changing.

An artist will always seem room to improve. The grass will always be greener, and we will always keep stretching for that.

But we won't go anywhere unless we keep walking.

Keep walking, Stalkerd. Don't quit. Don't let your at get you down either. I know it feels like the great artists just poop out good work without even trying, but they've spent so much time practicing and working at it. For every picture they post, there are dozens of crappy sketches that get thrown out, books full of doodles and practice and shit.

Keep on drawing. and know that every picture brings you closer to where you want to be. Even if the road here is muddy and thick, it'll get better. Just keep drawing.

Sorry to hear your tale
hope things gets better for yeah.
You shouldn't let others let you quit
and do what you like to do everyone gonna judge no matter what
just get better, because they don't matter at all, they are nothing.

I how ever have that...
"I'm not good enough, I wish I was better,
and something I like is making me feel sad then enjoying it"

That "this is pointless" feel.
That "sadness and hatred" feel.

TheHuskyK9 said:
Nah. I didn't choose the art life, the art life chose me.

What happens it doesn't want you any more?

Lance_Armstrong said:
Sometimes you have ridden your bicycle for the past 68 miles and you can't stand to go one more. But you have to bust that nut. 　　　　　Permanently.　　　　　

Didn't really understand that one
maybe i'm tired or just "temporary" depress.
I'm not surprise if I go crazy.
I don't believe life is "normal"
as life throws anything at you that isn't "normal".

SnowWolf said:
<snip>

That's pretty powerful. And relatable.

At a time I was also trying to draw but it never really worked out. Nonetheless, I still do draw on occasion when the mood hits me I guess. Often times I feel as though as other artists don't seem to face those same difficulties like we do, and it is a bit disheartening to know that I personally can't be as good as them. Live and learn.

stalkerd said:
I how ever have that...
"I'm not good enough, I wish I was better,
and something I like is making me feel sad then enjoying it"

That "this is pointless" feel.
That "sadness and hatred" feel.

The only way forward is to keep trying. Believe me when I say it sounds extremely cliche and passive, but if you want to be able to get to the place that you desire, you have to keep persevering, and realize that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

I can't draw to save my life, so I never started. Theoretically, I can't quit what I don't start.

I never started smoking, drinking alcohol, or any similar thing so I can't say I have ever wanted to quit to start with.

Helpful title is helpful

stalkerd said:
Sorry to hear your tale
hope things gets better for yeah.
You shouldn't let others let you quit
and do what you like to do everyone gonna judge no matter what
just get better, because they don't matter at all, they are nothing.

They were everything to me, but I was nothing to them. It wasn't right, but it still stuck deep. But I want to make art again. One day.

I how ever have that...
"I'm not good enough, I wish I was better,
and something I like is making me feel sad then enjoying it"

That "this is pointless" feel.
That "sadness and hatred" feel.

It's okay to take a break!
It's okay to jsut play video games for a while.

Or you coudl try to draw something different! I've decided that wwhen I buy a new tablet, I will make landscapes and animals. They're very pretty and very different than anime boys. I don't know how to draw those, so I"m starting fresh. I've never drawn this before. so ... it'll be new. Of course I"ll be bad. and maybe I"ll learn something new that makes me happy.

I know a lot of artists, years ago, started drawing my little pony fan art and felt so excited about it. Find something that excites you! Or maybe jsut relax and take a break for a while.

Maybe you should play videogames and read until the new year? :)

Stoppping doesn't have to be forever.

Take a break and come back when it makes your heart happy again. It's important to enjoy ourselves.

Aanyi said:
That's pretty powerful. And relatable.

At a time I was also trying to draw but it never really worked out. Nonetheless, I still do draw on occasion when the mood hits me I guess. Often times I feel as though as other artists don't seem to face those same difficulties like we do, and it is a bit disheartening to know that I personally can't be as good as them. Live and learn.

It's why I shared it. I think it's the first time I've really, truely accepted how much that asshole took from me. but I"m gonna take it back. But I wish I'd never let myself stop.

art's hard-- it takes o much practice and for so many peopel it seems so effortless.... but for everyone with zilliosn of faves and likes etc... there's thousands who are delighted to get even a single comment. You're not alone in your struggle, I promise. I'm right here with you.

nah. i planned to make art my career and i have nearly finished with my studies so theres no stopping now. also i enjoy drawing a lot so thats another reason why i dont ever even think about quitting.

Now that the title is more complete, I had the opposite problem. I wanted to keep drawing, but couldn't bring myself to actually go and continue.

Aanyi said:
That's pretty powerful. And relatable.

At a time I was also trying to draw but it never really worked out. Nonetheless, I still do draw on occasion when the mood hits me I guess. Often times I feel as though as other artists don't seem to face those same difficulties like we do, and it is a bit disheartening to know that I personally can't be as good as them. Live and learn.

The only way forward is to keep trying. Believe me when I say it sounds extremely cliche and passive, but if you want to be able to get to the place that you desire, you have to keep persevering, and realize that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Yeah that is abit cliche but I know what you mean.
But I just feel low, I heard it all already about "hope" etc etc
but it's feel like nothing.

SnowWolf said:
They were everything to me, but I was nothing to them. It wasn't right, but it still stuck deep. But I want to make art again. One day.

[quote[I how ever have that...
"I'm not good enough, I wish I was better,
and something I like is making me feel sad then enjoying it"

That "this is pointless" feel.
That "sadness and hatred" feel.

It's okay to take a break!
It's okay to jsut play video games for a while.

Or you coudl try to draw something different! I've decided that wwhen I buy a new tablet, I will make landscapes and animals. They're very pretty and very different than anime boys. I don't know how to draw those, so I"m starting fresh. I've never drawn this before. so ... it'll be new. Of course I"ll be bad. and maybe I"ll learn something new that makes me happy.

I know a lot of artists, years ago, started drawing my little pony fan art and felt so excited about it. Find something that excites you! Or maybe jsut relax and take a break for a while.

Maybe you should play videogames and read until the new year? :)

Stoppping doesn't have to be forever.

Take a break and come back when it makes your heart happy again. It's important to enjoy ourselves.

[/quote]

Always follow what you want you want to draw
and have those who are close to support you,
but mostly support yourself, as there always "critics", jerks and trolls,
that are nothing, nobodies that just like to see others fail.

I might take a break...
but don't know what to do

A new tablet huh? that's sound nice
Don't buy photoshop elements... it's like photoshop's diet coke version...
theres some missing good parts

Commander_Eggplant said:
nah. i planned to make art my career and i have nearly finished with my studies so theres no stopping now. also i enjoy drawing a lot so thats another reason why i dont ever even think about quitting.

What are you aiming for?
just drawing? animation?

Every now and then I'll just take a break. There's no shame in needing to step back every now and then.

stalkerd said:
Always follow what you want you want to draw
and have those who are close to support you,
but mostly support yourself, as there always "critics", jerks and trolls,
that are nothing, nobodies that just like to see others fail.

When we're young, it's so easy to cling to what friends we have, and to imagine we could never make anymore friends. One of the most important lessons everyone needs to learn in life is to CUT OUT the people in your life who make you unhappy. you don't need them. and they don't deserve you.

I might take a break...
but don't know what to do

Play some games! (steam's having a sale right now!)
Read some books! (I'm not super well read, but I could maybe offer some book recomendations)
Maybe find a hobby to take up! (I like roleplaying :D)
Maybe play with some old toys (the hubby and I have way too many legos.)
Maybe watch some TV or movies that you've been putting off!
or how bout some fanfiction? (Though that can be hit or miss. Fandom's a scary place.)
do some writing! Creating art with words can be pretty exciting.
Draw something silly! (post #143263 post #149301 ;) )
Draw some fan art for someone else!
Draw some fan art for you!
learn how to use a new program!
Learn how to make 3d characters!
Learn how to program!
Make a video game!
Do some tagging on this website ;)
learn a new language!
browse wikipedia and learn about crazy and random things: like 15th century warships, or the history of some scottish castle.
Go hiking!
Take up photography--you don't need much. Just take pictures of things :) (photography's one of those things where you take 100's of pictures and hope to get one good one. Isn't it great that we don't need film anymore?)
learn how to combine photographs to make art!
volunteer somewhere to help-- animal shelters and low cost spay nueter places always love to have people come in and spend time--sometimes you end up doing laundry or cleaning up poop. Sometimes you get to spend time snuggling and socializing with animals. there are a lot of places you could give your time to and do some good in the world :)

There are so many things out there to do. :) you don't need to pick one thing.. jsut do what strieks your fancy. :)

A new tablet huh? that's sound nice
Don't buy photoshop elements... it's like photoshop's diet coke version...
theres some missing good parts

My old tablet was really bad: the cord would only work if I held it in EXACTLY the right place--and if it moved, I'd have to unplug it and plug it back in. It didn't have drivers for windows 10. when it DID work, there was no pressure sensitivity. It wasn't made for wide screen monitors, and would turn every O into an (_)... and it freaked out if I used 2 monitors, and turned those (_)'s into (___)'s. XD I've been without for like 2 years. I really miss it.

Thanks for the photoshop elements tip! yuck! I won't! thanks!!

stalkerd said:
What are you aiming for?
just drawing? animation?

im gonna work in the visual side on making video games. i havent exactly picked a specialization yet but so far in the video game and short film projects i have been part of, i have been mainly working with concept art (mostly character design but some environment and prop stuff too), 3d animation and texturing.

I'm trying to get back into drawing, but I just can't find the time. Most of my art is probably going into my scraps on FA because god knows it doesn't belong here.

stalkerd said:
What happens it doesn't want you any more?

Art life is forever

Not really, I just wanna git gud, but also be casual/lazy about it.

regsmutt said:
Every now and then I'll just take a break. There's no shame in needing to step back every now and then.

Yeah... but it always feel like that final straw...
but it could be i'm just easily stress out.

SnowWolf said:
When we're young, it's so easy to cling to what friends we have, and to imagine we could never make anymore friends. One of the most important lessons everyone needs to learn in life is to CUT OUT the people in your life who make you unhappy. you don't need them. and they don't deserve you.

Play some games! (steam's having a sale right now!)
Read some books! (I'm not super well read, but I could maybe offer some book recomendations)
Maybe find a hobby to take up! (I like roleplaying :D)
Maybe play with some old toys (the hubby and I have way too many legos.)
Maybe watch some TV or movies that you've been putting off!
or how bout some fanfiction? (Though that can be hit or miss. Fandom's a scary place.)
do some writing! Creating art with words can be pretty exciting.
Draw something silly! (post #143263 post #149301 ;) )
Draw some fan art for someone else!
Draw some fan art for you!
learn how to use a new program!
Learn how to make 3d characters!
Learn how to program!
Make a video game!
Do some tagging on this website ;)
learn a new language!
browse wikipedia and learn about crazy and random things: like 15th century warships, or the history of some scottish castle.
Go hiking!
Take up photography--you don't need much. Just take pictures of things :) (photography's one of those things where you take 100's of pictures and hope to get one good one. Isn't it great that we don't need film anymore?)
learn how to combine photographs to make art!
volunteer somewhere to help-- animal shelters and low cost spay nueter places always love to have people come in and spend time--sometimes you end up doing laundry or cleaning up poop. Sometimes you get to spend time snuggling and socializing with animals. there are a lot of places you could give your time to and do some good in the world :)

There are so many things out there to do. :) you don't need to pick one thing.. jsut do what strieks your fancy. :)

My old tablet was really bad: the cord would only work if I held it in EXACTLY the right place--and if it moved, I'd have to unplug it and plug it back in. It didn't have drivers for windows 10. when it DID work, there was no pressure sensitivity. It wasn't made for wide screen monitors, and would turn every O into an (_)... and it freaked out if I used 2 monitors, and turned those (_)'s into (___)'s. XD I've been without for like 2 years. I really miss it.

Thanks for the photoshop elements tip! yuck! I won't! thanks!!

Alot of friends I had are gone, moved away or gotten out of touch
yeah... Kinda sad but I guess life is like that.

Yeah I saw that Steam sale, I might but a few games on their later.
I try to get use to Photoshop elements... I kinda dislike it.
prefer the older versions that is near of the full versions
draw something silly?
reminds me of my drawings styles when I was in middle school.

Ah I see, I never used a tablet before It been years I've hand drawn on paper.
I just mouse draw and got use to that.
I can understand that your old stuff is better then the new stuff
Kinda like PhotoShop Elements the older versions like Photoshop 8 to CS
are better. Elements got some neat newer other features...
but it looked so off for me it putted me off.

Commander_Eggplant said:
im gonna work in the visual side on making video games. i havent exactly picked a specialization yet but so far in the video game and short film projects i have been part of, i have been mainly working with concept art (mostly character design but some environment and prop stuff too), 3d animation and texturing.

That sounds great, I use to like environment things
and did awful gaming re-texturing, I don't mod,
as I did shopped skins and faces in the jpeg files from games
Like Quake 2. nothing fancy

TheHuskyK9 said:
Art life is forever

Yeah... kinda hard to follow that up.
I might just be moody... and it's just me.
I hate it when it happens.

SirBrownBear said:
Not really, I just wanna git gud, but also be casual/lazy about it.

Yeah those can be hard to do
I can only picture a very talented artist that does that with no problem.

Faux-Pa said:
I'm trying to get back into drawing, but I just can't find the time. Most of my art is probably going into my scraps on FA because god knows it doesn't belong here.

Yeah practice makes perfect,
FA? I try to post the "best" ones on my FA page
but looking back my old stuff... man they are awful
Their might be a few good ones, but I think I was just Lucky that day.

stalkerd said:
Alot of friends I had are gone, moved away or gotten out of touch
yeah... Kinda sad but I guess life is like that.

It is. but the friends I've made as an adult are way better than my silly teenage friends.

Yeah I saw that Steam sale, I might but a few games on their later.
I try to get use to Photoshop elements... I kinda dislike it.
prefer the older versions that is near of the full versions

I like some of the free software out there. Fire alpaca, medibang paint and others. photoshop's great, but it's so expensive. and 'heavy'. and I was used to PS7, and MAN it's all so different now.

draw something silly?
reminds me of my drawings styles when I was in middle school.

Yup :) it was meant to look like that sort of thing :) Embarrassing and silly--but it was fun!

Ah I see, I never used a tablet before It been years I've hand drawn on paper.
I just mouse draw and got use to that.

Some of my favorite artists mouse draw! It can be really amazing! I"m not that good XD

Some of my Teenage years Friends were good, but are gone,
I never made adult friends really, maybe in chat rooms and online play.
who are furries as well, and people I do know... are not really friends but
just someone I know.

Yeah getting free stuff is good I try to use gimp... not my likey
could by the layout and tools are different that's why but it had some new features
that are useful to go back and forth for drawing something.
Yeah Photoshop is pricey not if there are good knock offs that cheaper and as good
as PhotoShop.

Ah that's good being silly and fun is good practice,
well every time I see my old stuff I did as a teen
I"ll go "What Has Science Done!?!" they didn't age well.

Ah cooly, I think I'm not that good ether
just takes practice and getting use to,
but then again as they say "If you're not good at it, try something else"

stalkerd said:
Some of my Teenage years Friends were good, but are gone,
I never made adult friends really, maybe in chat rooms and online play.
who are furries as well, and people I do know... are not really friends but
just someone I know.

It can be hard, but I'd rather have a few godo friends then a lot of strangers. online friends can totally be real friends. DOn't let anyoen tell you otherwise. :)

Yeah getting free stuff is good I try to use gimp... not my likey
could by the layout and tools are different that's why but it had some new features
that are useful to go back and forth for drawing something.
Yeah Photoshop is pricey not if there are good knock offs that cheaper and as good
as PhotoShop.

Gimp is pretyt bad. I mean, I've tried it repeatedly and it's always.. frustrating and crashy.

Medibang paint, fire alpaca, Krita, artweaver, autodesk sketchbook... lots of great programs out there.

Ah that's good being silly and fun is good practice,
well every time I see my old stuff I did as a teen
I"ll go "What Has Science Done!?!" they didn't age well.

Nah, it's history. we've moved on. see how much we've improved? XD most of my teenage art was all sad and emo, wiithout actualyl becoming depressed. Sad crying tigers, that sort of thing, haha.

Ah cooly, I think I'm not that good ether
just takes practice and getting use to,
but then again as they say "If you're not good at it, try something else"

People who say that are jsut trying to break you. Keep trying, if it's something you want to be good at.

This guys' an inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/user/microboyd/videos

SnowWolf said:
Gimp is pretyt bad. I mean, I've tried it repeatedly and it's always.. frustrating and crashy.

GIMP, crashy? Windows user detected ;)

I use GIMP all the time but for editing, not drawing. MyPaint is better for drawing.

savageorange said:
GIMP, crashy? Windows user detected ;)

I use GIMP all the time but for editing, not drawing. MyPaint is better for drawing.

Yep. Windows user here. However, it DOES bill itself as a "cross-platform image editor available for GNU/Linux, OS X, Windows and more"... so. windows user or not, one SHOULD expect stability. I think the last time I tried it crashed every time I tried to resize an image.. or was it when I was using the selection tool? whatever it was, it was a REALLY basic task.

I remember trying to use GIMP some number of years ago and it crashed on the splashscreen. That was back in 2011 on a much worse system.

There are many softwares available, both cheap and free, that run better than whatever horseshit Adobe tries to sell. Krita is free (but it's still in development), Paint.NET is free, Firealpaca is free, etc. If you don't mind spending a little money, Paint Tool SAI is about $50, ArtRage is currently about the same price if you like real-media emulation. These things also run better than the Photoshop versions (and Elements) I've used, which is a plus.

Look for actual drawing software instead of editing software. The latter will be jampacked with a bunch of garbage you'll probably never use, which is why I stick with SAI for my stuff.

SnowWolf said:
It can be hard, but I'd rather have a few godo friends then a lot of strangers. online friends can totally be real friends. DOn't let anyoen tell you otherwise. :)

Gimp is pretyt bad. I mean, I've tried it repeatedly and it's always.. frustrating and crashy.

Medibang paint, fire alpaca, Krita, artweaver, autodesk sketchbook... lots of great programs out there.

Nah, it's history. we've moved on. see how much we've improved? XD most of my teenage art was all sad and emo, wiithout actualyl becoming depressed. Sad crying tigers, that sort of thing, haha.

People who say that are jsut trying to break you. Keep trying, if it's something you want to be good at.

This guys' an inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/user/microboyd/videos

Yeah it's nice to chat online friends and play online too.

oh did gimp had like 2 versions?
as the newest one is way different then the older ones?
Yeah there is alot of good programs the only
hard part is knowing the names of them. but asking helps.

"Crawling In My Skin!” lol I like that song but know i like it for two reasons
and one them are for the memes, and yes I was that kinda teen back then
but then again I still like grim things like how
old Don Bluth's cartoons story telling.
Crying tigers? lol
I was that middle grown emo edgy type, so I was like Shadow the Hedgehog
before Shadow the Hedgehog. lol
I was the
"The world is cruel
The world is wicked
It's I alone whom you can trust in this whole city
I am your only friend…" (Love that song)

Yes I did improve a little, Some of my older works was ok or "good"
but I guess I was lucky and was in that "Zen" moment.
but now I can't do that again even if my life depended on it.
as I miss that, because when I think, I think to much and I can't draw right.
The type of thinking to much of making mistakes.

Ah Nice, but what I meant was "Everybody, can't be a masterchef"
or they're good doing somethings, but not everything.
Like no I can't draw something that looks like an
2 months hand made painted portrait project. But I can draw "this."

I quit it almost every week because quite frankly, my art is atrocious.

But for some reason I just keep trying.

I keep trying to start but I lack inspiration and quite a bit of depression rolled in. Always something takes my attention.
Tried digital a while ago, can't get my head around it, traditional is the only way.

SnowWolf said:
Yeah.

But I quit.

I hate myself for it.

I wasn't great, but I let what other people said to me push my down. I let them win, and in the last 10 years I've made as much art as I would have in a week before.

Every time I try to draw, try to create art again, to make something flitting around in my head, I choke. Everything I create I loathe.

For a little while, I made art again. Just a little bit. But it wasn't drawing, not really. It was talented mimicry of an idea. Like decorating a cake. Made it pretty, made some art, but really, what matters is the cake itself, not how pretty it is.

I wish, more than anything that when little 22 year old me had been struggling with her art, that I had told the person who told me that my art was bad that their opinion didn't matter. That I was going to keep going, even if I hadn't figured out what I wanted my art to be yet.

I let them stop me. And I stopped improving. I didn't grow. I try to draw again and nothing's changed. Except me. If I'd kept drawing, I'd have improved. I'd've gotten out of that awkward place I was in--somewhere between cartoon and anime. I draw now and see a weeaboo piece of shit and I don't know how to fix it... because I let myself stop.

I wish more than anything that I had kept going. It was rough, but if you just keep walking forward, no matter what, you keep changing.

An artist will always seem room to improve. The grass will always be greener, and we will always keep stretching for that.

But we won't go anywhere unless we keep walking.

Keep walking, Stalkerd. Don't quit. Don't let your at get you down either. I know it feels like the great artists just poop out good work without even trying, but they've spent so much time practicing and working at it. For every picture they post, there are dozens of crappy sketches that get thrown out, books full of doodles and practice and shit.

Keep on drawing. and know that every picture brings you closer to where you want to be. Even if the road here is muddy and thick, it'll get better. Just keep drawing.

The road gets easier there will always be critics just do what makes you... well you. We all been there.