Topic: Disturbing patterns

Posted under General

I have noticed a large increase in darker, more disturbing art, showing up lately. Now i have no problem with freedom of expression and whatnot, if it turns you on that's fine by me, but what I'm not too happy about is that alot of the art is not properly tagged which in turn compromises the effectiveness of the blacklisting system. I personally find art and other media that portrays (including but not limited to) torture, pleading for mercy, hardcore rape, snuff, brutality, intense gore, cannibalism, violent homophobia, and anything associated with the user whitekitten, etc. very disturbing and would rather no see it, so if you post things please tag it properly.

Updated by coyotebear

if tag is missing, just add it by yourself and maybe politely message the uploader to request that they add the tag in their future uploads.

Updated by anonymous

Usually people are pretty decent with tagging hardcore kinks, but if they're not, it doesn't hurt to send them a PM and notify them of their bad tagging.

You should also try and add the missing tags yourself, you haven't made any tag edits yet, but it's never too late to start. Your effort might spare another like-minded individual the grief of seeing such "horrible" content.

Edit: I should also refresh threads before commenting to avoid redundant comments.

Updated by anonymous

there is also the distinct possibility that e621 has always been horrifying, and you're just noticing it now.

it might be time to get creative with your blacklist and tag things tangentially related to what you're seeing in order to knock them out without needing to search up what exactly you're trying to blacklist: things like what, why, and lol_comments, for instance. then you can have half the page blacklisted just like your best pal me.

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Peekaboo said:
Usually people are pretty decent with tagging hardcore kinks, but if they're not, it doesn't hurt to send them a PM and notify them of their bad tagging.

You should also try and add the missing tags yourself, you haven't made any tag edits yet, but it's never too late to start. Your effort might spare another like-minded individual the grief of seeing such "horrible" content.

Edit: I should also refresh threads before commenting to avoid redundant comments.

I'm always wary of pming people about the tagging stuff. I used to then realized in a way it's sort of like backseat moderation (of which I've always had an issue with). These days I tend to just tag and move on, or if it's a repeated offense or string of tagging errors I leave a comment on the most recent post with an error, tag and move on. If it continues then I send a report into the mods. Cuz seriously, pm a user and say the wrong thing and they report it? Your in trouble. Figure it's safer to comment or report.

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leomole

Former Staff

I've never run into trouble PMing uploaders and asking them politely to use certain tags. On the flipside it's rarely effective, most of them don't change their behavior at all. But what else can you do? Failing to tag properly is not against the rules (rating excepted).

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leomole said:
I've never run into trouble PMing uploaders and asking them politely to use certain tags. On the flipside it's rarely effective, most of them don't change their behavior at all. But what else can you do? Failing to tag properly is not against the rules (rating excepted).

i've wanted to make a forum post where one attempts to define the four least helpful tags one can upload a post with, though i get the feeling i would be breaking a taboo.

though the rules do state the tags have to be at least accurate, if not complete, i wonder how green or apathetic an uploader would have to be in order to not understand how to tag the very images they uploaded?

the silver lining with having badly tagged posts slip past your blacklist is also being the person most motivated to fix them. for instance, the young tag is constantly mistagged and undertagged, a yin and yang of sorts.

Updated by anonymous

leomole said:
I've never run into trouble PMing uploaders and asking them politely to use certain tags. On the flipside it's rarely effective, most of them don't change their behavior at all. But what else can you do? Failing to tag properly is not against the rules (rating excepted).

Don't inkbunny and furrynetwork require users to tag certain subjects with penalties if you don't? There could be a similar rule here with certain commonly blacklisted extreme tags like young, snuff, and scat.

Updated by anonymous

regsmutt said:
Don't inkbunny and furrynetwork require users to tag certain subjects with penalties if you don't? There could be a similar rule here with certain commonly blacklisted extreme tags like young, snuff, and scat.

and ponies

Updated by anonymous

regsmutt said:
Don't inkbunny and furrynetwork require users to tag certain subjects with penalties if you don't? There could be a similar rule here with certain commonly blacklisted extreme tags like young, snuff, and scat.

Young is an iffy one that people argue on.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Young is an iffy one that people argue on.

Frankly I don't care, wanting to see kids fucked is an extreme fetish and the art is legally a grey area at best. People who want/need to avoid it tend to find it at least as objectionable as scat.

Updated by anonymous

regsmutt said:
Don't inkbunny and furrynetwork require users to tag certain subjects with penalties if you don't? There could be a similar rule here with certain commonly blacklisted extreme tags like young, snuff, and scat.

I know furrynetwork at least requires tags, with listing this as a requirement in their Acceptable Upload Policy. Inkbunny on the other hand, I can't seem to find any mention of a tagging requirement, although everyone still tags quite a bit on that site.

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Coffey25 said:
I know furrynetwork at least requires tags, with listing this as a requirement in their Acceptable Upload Policy. Inkbunny on the other hand, I can't seem to find any mention of a tagging requirement, although everyone still tags quite a bit on that site.

Here ya go: https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/Keyword_Policy#Minimum_Required_Keywords
Apparently it's not limited to controversial/objectionable/extreme content, but it is emphasized for it: "It is especially important that you add keywords describing themes that you think users would commonly use to find your submission or what they might commonly wish to avoid seeing."

Updated by anonymous

Before even reaching disturbing (to some) content and kinks;
I would be happy if uploaders could differentiate (based on wiki definitions and common sense) and tag appropriately the simple prefixes small, big, huge, and hyper.

Updated by anonymous

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