I'm talking about these things: https://e621.net/tag?name=naked_*&type=&order=count

Tags for when the character is only wearing one piece of clothing or accessory.

naked_towel naked_apron etc.

They're japanese imports, and make no sense in English.

Can we think up a better naming convention for them?

This has come up in several threads.
Still voting for renaming them to *_only (apron_only, etc). Short tag, relatively easy to remember, and the usage is obvious.

Genjar said:
This has come up in several threads.
Still voting for renaming them to *_only (apron_only, etc). Short tag, relatively easy to remember, and the usage is obvious.

Hey, I like that better.
+1

I have relevance: forum #237214

BlueDingo said:
I have relevance: forum #237214

Aww man, I was gonna link that. I guess the early bird gets the worm, as they say.

At least I can add this link: forum #244368

Genjar said:
This has come up in several threads.
Still voting for renaming them to *_only (apron_only, etc). Short tag, relatively easy to remember, and the usage is obvious.

How is voting done on this site? I haven't voted here before.

I believe Genjar meant it figuratively, as there is no literal way for random internet schmucks to vote on renaming other than forum comments.

(What the staff uses to decide things I have no clue, not being a staffer, but I do know there is "behind the scenes" communications.)

D.D.M. said:
How is voting done on this site? I haven't voted here before.

it was not literally. the +1 and "i vote for this" stuff is just a different way to say "i support this idea".

+1 to alias

Also, do you think the naked_* tags should probably implicate mostly_nude as well?

Snergal said:
Also, do you think the naked_* tags should probably implicate mostly_nude as well?

Some cover too much for that to be accurate.

post #1089580 <- naked_towel topless

Commander_Eggplant said:
it was not literally. the +1 and "i vote for this" stuff is just a different way to say "i support this idea".

Yeah, I kinda figured that but I wasn't completely sure.

I've also got a few questions about the creation and usage of naked_* tags. There's several made already and there's potential for more naked_* tags to be added later. But at the same time too many naked_* tags could be created. Additionally, some of the naked_* tags had some posts and were later nuked. So what I'm asking is... How many naked_* tags should be used? And what kinds of naked_* tags should we be using? Are there limits to what items should be used when creating a new naked_* tag?

D.D.M. said:
I've also got a few questions about the creation and usage of naked_* tags. There's several made already and there's potential for more naked_* tags to be added later. But at the same time too many naked_* tags could be created. Additionally, some of the naked_* tags had some posts and were later nuked. So what I'm asking is... How many naked_* tags should be used? And what kinds of naked_* tags should we be using? Are there limits to what items should be used when creating a new naked_* tag?

I'd say restrict it to things that can be treated as clothing or when the character wearing just that thing isn't still considered nude.

Naked_apron, naked_cape and naked_towel are a definite yes. Naked_collar and naked_glasses are a definite no. The others need to be discussed.

D.D.M. said:
How many naked_* tags should be used? And what kinds of naked_* tags should we be using? Are there limits to what items should be used when creating a new naked_* tag?

You can either do everything or be selective.

I don't see only_shirt and only_pants adding value to bottomless and topless, respectively. I don't personally see much value in only_ underwear tags, and something like only_thigh_highs is rather normal. I like the current group of naked_* tags with any usage, except naked_glasses and naked_collar which are, again, normal and "don't say much".

Only_ apron, hat, scarf, and cape are good, even towel. I would add socks, shoes, and boots too (but not thigh highs, somehow). There's something racy or titillating about their imagery. They're unexpected. They're saying something, like "I have abandoned my modesty but for this article of clothing" as if it's some further commentary on the character's modesty, but puzzling that out only leaves one with a contradiction because both function and form are severely compromised (except with towels which cling to modesty). That's information worth knowing, if I'm prioritizing potential only_* tags for use going forward.

My eyes are up here.

Just some more subjective rambling that's probably hard to work with.

abadbird said:
I don't see only_shirt and only_pants adding value to bottomless and topless, respectively. I don't personally see much value in only_ underwear tags, and something like only_thigh_highs is rather normal.

It's be better to avoid proper clothing items, so no only_shirt and only_pants.

abadbird said:
I like the current group of naked_* tags with any usage, except naked_glasses and naked_collar which are, again, normal and "don't say much".

And don't really cover anything. Characters wearing only glasses or a collar are considered nude.

abadbird said:
I would add socks, shoes, and boots too (but not thigh highs, somehow).

Maybe generalize it to naked_footwear/footwear_only and naked_legwear/legwear_only? No need to create separate tags for different type of footwear and legwear.

abadbird said:
There's something racy or titillating about their imagery. They're unexpected.

Unless you're a Sonic fan.

abadbird said:
They're saying something, like "I have abandoned my modesty but for this article of clothing" as if it's some further commentary on the character's modesty, but puzzling that out only leaves one with a contradiction because both function and form are severely compromised (except with towels which cling to modesty).

True, this does kinda put naked_towel in a different category to the others.

The wearing_towel idea from the other thread may be worth considering as well since simply wearing one, with or without anything else, is a notable feature and the naked_towel tag assumes nothing else is being worn. Also, wearing a towel does allow some clothed tags to be tagged, so a wearing_towel -> clothed implication would be possible.