Implicating hydra → scalie
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Reason:

Hydras are fictional reptilian creatures, either depicted as multi headed dragons or multi headed snake creatures. I feel a broad scalie implication would be appropriate here.

Related implications

• hydra → multi head¹

¹ Discussed of here; also fits with tag standards seen with the cerberus species tag.

EDIT: The tag implication hydra -> scalie (forum #245864) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

-1 i went through the tag and there was plenty of posts of hydras that were not scalies. i saw avian based hydras, insect based hydras, plant based hydras and some that are just so stylished that its impossible to tell if its meant to be scalie or not

Commander_Eggplant said:
-1 i went through the tag and there was plenty of posts of hydras that were not scalies. i saw avian based hydras, insect based hydras, plant based hydras and some that are just so stylished that its impossible to tell if its meant to be scalie or not

Hm really? Guess I never saw those.

Perhaps like with cerberus it could have a multi head implication, then.

Commander_Eggplant said:
-1 i went through the tag and there was plenty of posts of hydras that were not scalies. i saw avian based hydras, insect based hydras, plant based hydras and some that are just so stylished that its impossible to tell if its meant to be scalie or not

Care if i ask but what insectoid hydras do you speak of? ^^;

Other then that i do agree considering dragon is also not implicated for the same reasons.

Commander_Eggplant said:
-1 i went through the tag and there was plenty of posts of hydras that were not scalies. i saw avian based hydras, insect based hydras, plant based hydras and some that are just so stylished that its impossible to tell if its meant to be scalie or not

Could you post some examples? The only one that I could spot is post #438162, and that's clearly mistagged.

If it's not scalie, it probably shouldn't be tagged as a hydra. But hard to say without seeing the posts in question.

Genjar said:
Could you post some examples? The only one that I could spot is post #438162, and that's clearly mistagged.

If it's not scalie, it probably shouldn't be tagged as a hydra. But hard to say without seeing the posts in question.

actually that is a good question, I'd like to see examples of non-scalie hydras that aren't mistags

post #1371616 post #1273669 post #978206 post #144239

Commander_Eggplant said:
post #1273669 post #144239

The second example you gave is pretty heavily dragon fused with insect, with pretty blatant exoskeleton style hybrid scales, I'd consider it scalie. The last one is pretty scalie to me too as the multi headed hydra looks pretty snake or serpent-like in nature and has a huge group of heads and ear spikes/spines. Reads as scalie enough for me.

Commander_Eggplant said:
post #1371616 post #978206

The other two I wouldn't even call hydra; the first is a wyvern fused with a gryphon or avian of some sort as gathered by the physical traits (and source tho of course we don't consider source). It just happens to have multiple heads. Multiple heads doesn't always equal a hydra, it'd make the tag pretty messy and unfocused.

Same with the plant dragon creature, tho in that case the source says it's intended as hydra but again... not considering sources here. It's a flower creature dragon thing inspired by the snapdragon flower, which has tons of clusters of flower heads, hence the clusters of heads.

It's a case of mistagging multi headed creatures as hydra when they don't fit the visual bill, imho. Really they're mythological creatures so everyone's gonna be creative with them, so I don't fault anyone with this kind of stuff. But in regards to proper tagging on the site according to its rules, I feel the examples you gave are either mistagging multi-headed creatures or do indeed fit the scalie bill, imho.

But considering how gryphon & cerberus are both tagged based on their biological counterparts(i.e. avian & canine), logic would say to tag hydra with reptile instead.

I'm weary of implicating it with scalie as it's generally an appearance tag (based on the wiki), a reptile can be drawn in a way that doesn't show it having scales, same goes to hydra and the similar deathclaw implication(forum #236614).

facelessmess said:
... the first is a wyvern fused with a gryphon or avian of some sort as gathered by the physical traits (and source tho of course we don't consider source). It just happens to have multiple heads. Multiple heads doesn't always equal a hydra, it'd make the tag pretty messy and unfocused.

The gryphon/wyvern hybrid (or gryvern) is refering to the smaller character in the front, the one in the back is supposedly a hydra/gryphon hybrid (or hydragryph) based on the character owner's designs. I tagged it as such because it looked like a hydra but technically is not, so my bad.

TheGreatWolfgang said:
But considering how gryphon & cerberus are both tagged based on their biological counterparts(i.e. avian & canine), logic would say to tag hydra with reptile instead.

I'm weary of implicating it with scalie as it's generally an appearance tag (based on the wiki), a reptile can be drawn in a way that doesn't show it having scales, same goes to hydra and the similar deathclaw implication(forum #236614).

The gryphon/wyvern hybrid (or gryvern) is refering to the smaller character in the front, the one in the back is supposedly a hydra/gryphon hybrid (or hydragryph) based on the character owner's designs. I tagged it as such because it looked like a hydra but technically is not, so my bad.

huh thought the gryphon wyvern was the character in the back, my bad

anyways I see where you're coming from, but when it comes to fictional characters the site likes to seperate them from actual animal tags to make blacklisting much easier and feasible for people wishing to avoid fictional species (example: the whole "don't tag pokemon as real life animals, only base species"). this is why reptilian fictional species, like the kremling for example, implicate scalie and not reptile.

The tag implication hydra -> scalie (forum #245864) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.