Topic: "Monk" tag is a character

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Is "Monk" a character from something?? Either way their needs to be two tags because at least some of the "Monk" tag is fulled with just monks.

Updated by Siral Exan

Tag category can be changed.

https://e621.net/tag?name=monk&type=&order=count

From the looks of several of the images refer to the monks in Warcraft. SFW post #858506 I'm don't think it represents a specific character though so I suppose it is just should be tagged as monk.

There's also NSFW post #1165926 which I can only assume it is a name of a character. The tag would refer to the black pony.

I will just change the tag. The few references to characters can be changed individually.

Updated by anonymous

“Monk” is one of the 6 starting characters that you can choose from, from the original Final Fantasy. Monk is also from other series, so if you see cosplay on it the tag should stay as a character, it just needs to get the series’ suffix.

Warcraft’s classes are general tags as they are not characters, and it may be worthwhile to suffix them so we can make an implication. They are identifiable between it and the name they are taking from (IE, a WoW monk tossing a keg of beer or channeling a green mist, stuff normal monks aren’t known to do).

Updated by anonymous

Uh, there is no reference to that character being a monk on FA. It’s just E6: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/24719301/

Secondly, go look it up: the wiki for Final Fantasy has articles for classes / characters that meet the class’s expectations. It’d be kinda hard to not find a visual reference to monk there.

Thirdly I already said that we’d want to distinguish monks from WoW and monks from other sources. Those 13 references, barring the 3 nudes (+1 mostly nude) and the one facing a siege engine, all fit what Blizz identifies as “the class fantasy”, or they are sufficiently unique and are capable of being identified as a WoW class instead of the borrowed term. Just look at the armor and weapons.

Updated by anonymous

Commander_Eggplant said:
you are looking at wrong gallery. artist doesnt say anything about it but its written on character owner's FA:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/24717147/

Hm. Well, if I knew what game the reference is from, I’d gladly be of service. I already said “let’s make suffixes for series specific classes”, so I disagree with it being tagged monk as-is. If we find out where it comes from in the FF multiverse, then we can tag it monk_(Final_Fantasy). We should also do Monk_(warrior_of_light) for the specific monk character from FFI.

Updated by anonymous

I will tag them if no one else feels up it as monk_(final_fantasy) and monk_(warcraft) later. There's also a diablo 3 monk in there. Also shaolin monks.

My main reservation about this is that any number of games / media can develop a stereotypical monk character. It is not uncommon in fictional media to portray monks as having magical abilities or exceptional fighting techniques. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllMonksKnowKungFu

The border between warrior / monk, and spellcaster / monk has been blurred. If the character looks like they would spend a lot of time training skills, or hanging out in a monastery, then the monk tag should still be applicable. Not all monks are mysterious hooded figures. Although there is an ambiguity of connecting martial artists with the monk figure.

This image for example should qualify as a monk tag.

post #221349

Maybe this one as well.

post #541758

It's not that easy to cut through the ambiguity, deciding which characters fit enough monk stereotypes to warrant such a tag.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

There's a massive difference between Catholic monks, Buddhist monks, and RPG monks (among others). So yeah, lumping everything under the same tag might not be the best thing to do.

Could probably benefit from disambiguation, though as has been said, some of those are pretty tough to pigeonhole.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
There's a massive difference between Catholic monks, Buddhist monks, and RPG monks (among others). So yeah, lumping everything under the same tag might not the best thing to do.

Could probably benefit from disambiguation.

I was thinking that too, but any way I tried to say it almost sounded selfish, like that I knew I would be right in assuming.

Updated by anonymous

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