I removed bondage tag from post #1386413 because the bondage wiki suggests that restrained be used for tentacles. I am confused though as the definition included in bondage indicates it is used for restrained and bound scenarios. Am I right for removing this tag?

There are 18 pages of images containing bondage and tentacles. I'm not sure if people just mistag a lot or if it is proper to tag it as such even when the wiki says otherwise.

Also unsure about the bdsm tag that gets added when bondage is added. If there is no indication of consent (or ambiguous consent) and bondage doesn't apply, then bdsm would also not apply right?

It's just mistagged, some users mass tag bondage for any usage of bound or restrained, even on safe-rated images. Feel free to clean them up if can find time for it. Bondage doesn't apply if there's paraphernalia in use.

(Also check if the bdsm and bound tags needs to be removed. Those get implicated from bondage, so if bondage is mistagged then bdsm and bound tends to be too.)

Ahhh.. here are some old memories :) This was brough up and discussed here (not that a thread for 6 year s ago has as much weight, but! it was discusssed! Ideas happened! Things were changed! there was a LOT of careful manual retagging.) (there are also several other threads spawned off of that one that are linked in various ways)(including several posts from someone who basically says "but I want to filter out stuff, but don't want to use my blacklist." *twitch*)

TheVileOne said:
I removed bondage tag from post #1386413 because the bondage wiki suggests that restrained be used for tentacles. I am confused though as the definition included in bondage indicates it is used for restrained and bound scenarios. Am I right for removing this tag?

By definitions, yes.

There are 18 pages of images containing bondage and tentacles. I'm not sure if people just mistag a lot or if it is proper to tag it as such even when the wiki says otherwise.

By what was discussed before, those are mistagged

Also unsure about the bdsm tag that gets added when bondage is added. If there is no indication of consent (or ambiguous consent) and bondage doesn't apply, then bdsm would also not apply right?

Well, if I recall correctly, the idea--years ago--was...

If someone is tied up, they're bound.
If someone is consenting to be bound, it's BDSM--even if to a small degree. Because once you say "sure honey, you can handcuff me to the bed" you're transferring power to another person. You don't need the whole chicken to use some of the feathers, y'know?
If someone is not consenting, then it's rape and is not bondage, because bondage requires consent. They are simply bound.

So (again, as of 6 years ago) bondage & bdsm = consentual, bound = consentual and non-consentual.

HOWEVER, it seems that a few years ago someone changed the wiki's definition to instead read that bondage is any kind of SEXUAL tying up?

Which all said is not necessarily a BAD idea, however, it seems? like no one ever removed the Bondage -> BDSM implication, leading to this (kinda). Of course, the argument over if BDSDM can be non-consenting seems to have raged on many times over the years.

that said, restrained seems right for the tentacles. :)

The wiki entry and the tag have gone through multiple revisions, and there's less emphasis on consent because that's difficult to determine from still images.

I took at stab at trying to clarify the wiki, dunno if it's any clearer now. ...still looking for thumbnails to use as examples, bondage art tends to be pretty complex so it's hard to find good thumbs.

The bdsm implication's still a bit dubious though-- if one can be in bondage without it being BDSM, then...

(also, I do like the clarification <3

I'm iffy on 'bdsm' being a tag at all, tbh. Everything under that umbrella already has its own tag and since 'bondage' is so commonly mistagged it ends up with a lot of unrelated junk. bdsm -bondage seems to turn up things mostly in a few categories- stuff that SHOULD be tagged bondage (post #1339813), stuff that was mistagged bondage but bdsm was left on when the tag was corrected (post #1386413), goths (post #1383344), and stuff that's tagged with outside knowledge at best (post #1387544, post #1376177, post #1357687, post #1346561). The posts that contain no bondage (including subjective grey-area stuff like bondage harnesses and leashes like post #1352013) are much more rare, especially if you don't consider things like spanking to be inherently bdsm (post #1313395).

I can mostly agree with basically everything you just said. Not examining it with a fine toothed comb, but yeah.

It's a shame, as I know someone went through the whole tag over the course of like 2 weeks to retag everything, but that was 6 years ago and, well, it was always going to be a poorly maintained tag :(