Ah forget it.

what

siikaprinssi said:
what

Yeah, I shoudn't probably said that much, didn't I? It wasn't originally supposed to be an unpopular opinion, but I thought that it could fit more into an unpopular opinion thread, so there.

You say this is going to be about furries, but you say that you are not a furry, but you like kemono, if you dont consider that a furry thing then why do you say its about furries when kemono is the only thing you talk about.

cerberusmod_3 said:
Speaking of mesukemo,

I do not know what this and neither does google o_o

Also, general rules of thumb, let's keep this non-political, and less about the people in the fandom and more about fandom stuff, please :)

SnowWolf said:
I do not know what this and neither does google o_o

but duckduckgo does
it's defined in https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kemono

SnowWolf said:
I do not know what this and neither does google o_o

Also, general rules of thumb, let's keep this non-political, and less about the people in the fandom and more about fandom stuff, please :)

I did not read OP, but mesu is Japanese for female and kemo is short for kemono (furry/anthro chracter).

Why are you complaining about 8chan on an unrelated site?

Munkelzahn said:

but duckduckgo does
it's defined in https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kemono

So in the context of an English website, just an obscuration of "female kemono"?

You’re on e621 not 8chan X_X

Why not go complain over there?

My unpopular furry opinion(at least within the fandom): furries were a mistake.

Munkelzahn said:
but duckduckgo does
it's defined in https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Kemono

Thanks <3

savageorange said:
So in the context of an English website, just an obscuration of "female kemono"?

That's actually an interesting question.

The text reads "One of the characteristics of (collaborative fan projects?) at Kemono fanzine is that they are held mostly within the community of Osukemo (Male anthropomorphic Kemono) artists, while Mesukemo (Female) artists seldom."

*I* read this as "female artist who draws kemono" not "Artist who draws female kemono"

But I can see why you'd read it that way. Interesting. I wonder which is correct?

that said, either way..

cerberusmod_3 said:
Their interest seems biased to me, favoring more for mesukemo, disregarding quality over quantity. Don't get me wrong, I still like mesukemo, but I don't like how people post them more than any other kemono genre. Many of their favorite kemono artists are the ones that draws mesukemo, including Nezumi, whom I personally don't find her work appealing and yet people seems to enjoy it. -_-

Speaking of mesukemo, I felt that this genre is overrated, aside for being very popular in the aforementioned /kemono/ board, it's also wildely praised on E-Hentai as well, which isn't suprising considering what this website is.

Either way, I kinda have to 'what' at this... as either way... he's either being critical at people for preferring female characters over male ones.... oooor he's complaining about female artists o_o either way, uh...

post #1616292

hi yes i also want to shout my interests at strangers because i have no social life and think i can disguise my intention with a false premise haha lol let's share unpopular opinions guys

BlackSparkx said:
You say this is going to be about furries, but you say that you are not a furry, but you like kemono, if you dont consider that a furry thing then why do you say its about furries when kemono is the only thing you talk about.

I considered it distinct from furry, but still.

Random said:
Why are you complaining about 8chan on an unrelated site?

I'm not complaninga about it. I'm just expressing my thoughts about it. Besides, I'm not talking about the 8chan itself. I'm talking about one of the boards.

BlackLicorice said:
You’re on e621 not 8chan X_X

Why not go complain over there?

I'm not sure, but I post it here because I afraid that people on /kemono/ will hate me for this if I post it there.

SnowWolf said:
Either way, I kinda have to 'what' at this... as either way... he's either being critical at people for preferring female characters over male ones.... oooor he's complaining about female artists o_o either way, uh...

I'm not complaning abot female artist. I'm just thought that this genre is overrated to me, at least on 8chan and E-Hentai.

SnowWolf said:
That's actually an interesting question.

The text reads "One of the characteristics of (collaborative fan projects?) at Kemono fanzine is that they are held mostly within the community of Osukemo (Male anthropomorphic Kemono) artists, while Mesukemo (Female) artists seldom."

*I* read this as "female artist who draws kemono" not "Artist who draws female kemono"

But I can see why you'd read it that way. Interesting. I wonder which is correct?

A google search for osukemo brought up a result (link) that defines a number of kemono-related terms, and includes osukemo as "male kemono" and mesukemo as "female kemono". I don't authoritatively know the answer, either. I'm not familiar with osu or mesu as contractions of either 男 ("man", pronounced "otoko") or 女 ("woman", pronounced "onna"). I've discovered a few other terms which mean similar things, such as 男性 ("male", pronounced "dansei"), but words like dansei would be more likely to be contracted to "dan" than "osu".

As best as I know, "osu" is 押す ("push", pronounced "osu"), as in the videogame Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!, a rhythm game for the Nintendo DS, about a Japanese male cheerleader squad that goes around encouraging people to overcome various personal challenges, from physical performance to overcoming anxiety.

Clearly, I still have much to learn. o_O But then, that's why I never got deeply involved in various translation requests when Japanese stuff has been posted here.

cerberusmod_3 said:
I'm not complaning abot female artist. I'm just thought that this genre is overrated to me, at least on 8chan and E-Hentai.

Well, mesukemo would be relevant to my interests. I might work up enough courage to brave the realm of "chan" boards again if there's a significant presence there.

Also, Google translate proved helpful, and suggested a related word 雄猫 ("male cat", pronounced "osuneko"). It suggests that the 雄 ("osu") means something akin to "buck" or otherwise "male animal". It similarly helped me find 雌猫 ("female cat", pronounced "mesuneko"), and suggests that the 雌 ("mesu") means something like "doe" or "female animal", though it seems to often be contracted to just "me", such as 雌犬 ("female dog", pronounced "meinu").

ikdind said:
Also, Google translate proved helpful, and suggested a related word 雄猫 ("male cat", pronounced "osuneko"). It suggests that the 雄 ("osu") means something akin to "buck" or otherwise "male animal". It similarly helped me find 雌猫 ("female cat", pronounced "mesuneko"), and suggests that the 雌 ("mesu") means something like "doe" or "female animal", though it seems to often be contracted to just "me", such as 雌犬 ("female dog", pronounced "meinu").

Ahha, the kanji helped me a lot.

雄 (osu) is used for, like you said, male animals -- while 男 (Otoko) is male human specifically.

(random side tangent of Snow's mind: I wonder if, if aliens came here or another sentient species rose up and they decided to learn Japanese, if they would use 男 or develop a new set of words to refer to a member of the male-ish gender of their species?)

I’m confused, how are kemonos any different than furries? It looks like kemono is just japanese furry art.

SharkFetish said:
I’m confused, how are kemonos any different than furries? It looks like kemono is just japanese furry art.

kemono is literally just japanese furry art. ppl just like living in denial.

I guess that depends on whether you think anime is literally just japanese animation/cartoons.

In both cases, I'd say it's like 'same thing, slightly different flavor' (kemono generally looks more cutesy, for example)

So pretending it's not furry is silly, but using it as a 'subgenre' label makes some sense.

Anime literally is just Japanese animation and kemono literally is just Japanese furries. Weeaboos are crazy lol

cerberusmod_3 said:
I'm not sure, but I post it here because I afraid that people on /kemono/ will hate me for this if I post it there.

It doesn't seem to be earning you a great fanbase here, either. But at least people are talking to each other, I guess.

people seem confused rather than hating.

BlackLicorice said:
Anime literally is just Japanese animation and kemono literally is just Japanese furries. Weeaboos are crazy lol

Yes, anime is Japanese animation. and yes kemono is japanese furries, but weeaboos aren't crazy. o_o

The location something comes from changes a lot about it. Japanese anime is drawn in Japanese styles, but also tells japanese stories with japanese people with Japanese ideals and japanese imagery.

I played some game the other day and was confused as heck because there was a lot of focus on this guy cutting an apple.

"Is this a thread or something? Maybe it's somehow symbolic of eating away at the bright exterior of the main character and leaving only a pale core? Maybe it's something about paring away the main character's defenses and leaving them exposed to the elements and the world which will inevitable blemish them beyond repair? Maybe it's symbolic of how the apple peeler can hurt the main character? Is he praying on them somehow, perhaps? eating them like a fresh delicious apple?"

I googled: nope. it's just a common visual symbol of taking care of someone. we talk about chicken soup, they peel apples.

Someone can like the stories told by Japanese people in a japanese way more than--or differently--than American stories, jsut like I know many people enjoy British stories and british storytelling.

It's not crazy. We're all different.

Me, I don't understnad why Kemono is different than Furry, except that kemono tends to look a bit different. but there's a difference for a number of people, and that's good enough for me, y'know?

I don't think people are weird for liking korean food, or disliking pizza. -- they're different types of foods that appeal to different tastes.

SnowWolf said:
Yes, anime is Japanese animation. and yes kemono is japanese furries, but weeaboos aren't crazy. o_o

The location something comes from changes a lot about it. Japanese anime is drawn in Japanese styles, but also tells japanese stories with japanese people with Japanese ideals and japanese imagery.

I played some game the other day and was confused as heck because there was a lot of focus on this guy cutting an apple.

"Is this a thread or something? Maybe it's somehow symbolic of eating away at the bright exterior of the main character and leaving only a pale core? Maybe it's something about paring away the main character's defenses and leaving them exposed to the elements and the world which will inevitable blemish them beyond repair? Maybe it's symbolic of how the apple peeler can hurt the main character? Is he praying on them somehow, perhaps? eating them like a fresh delicious apple?"

I googled: nope. it's just a common visual symbol of taking care of someone. we talk about chicken soup, they peel apples.

Someone can like the stories told by Japanese people in a japanese way more than--or differently--than American stories, jsut like I know many people enjoy British stories and british storytelling.

It's not crazy. We're all different.

Me, I don't understnad why Kemono is different than Furry, except that kemono tends to look a bit different. but there's a difference for a number of people, and that's good enough for me, y'know?

I don't think people are weird for liking korean food, or disliking pizza. -- they're different types of foods that appeal to different tastes.

but still, the conclusion is that its furry. Its just a different art style. So what they could have said is that they prefer japanese art style over western.

SharkFetish said:
I’m confused, how are kemonos any different than furries? It looks like kemono is just japanese furry art.

I would say Furries are about animals with human traits, while Kemono is the opposite - Humans with animal ears, tails and skills.

D4rk said:
I would say Furries are about animals with human traits, while Kemono is the opposite - Humans with animal ears, tails and skills.

post #300513
I would consider #4-#6 to still fall under "kemono". If anything, I feel like your description is #2-#3 and falls more under the header of "kemonomimi".

Like Snow, I agree that kemono has a distinct look to it, and I can understand why some people would prefer "kemono" over other forms of "furry".

And hey, if males are OP's thing, more power to them. I do think it's a little weird and inappropriate to complain about the content on Site X over on unrelated-but-not-entirely-dissimilar Site Y. So I've been largely ignoring it over the novelty of these new mysterious labels subdividing the body of kemono work.

yeah sometimes kemono lovers tent to be biased, is like anime , because is sorta anime, just there is not enough of it to get clingy on.
no, not all kemono are same, we all know it, but sometimes is even harder to "like" what others like, perhaps the most is the styles, whike furry is just if they look cute and that.

"dont insult one piece with that weeabo shit of the deadly sins, is not the same!" type of words, that i overly hear whenever i try to say if the deadly sins is good to watch (yes it is, and is diferent)

for me, kemono and furry are the same, just words to identify this fandom of ours :3
and no, i am not a pro, neither a good artist but well, i know stuff at least
still an opinion is an opinion, so we should respect them as we feel them would respect ours

BlackSparkx said:
but still, the conclusion is that its furry. Its just a different art style. So what they could have said is that they prefer japanese art style over western.

Well, sure. but it's not JUST the art style.. but even past that... we humans like naming things, you know? Impressionism, Cubism, Rococo, Anime, Baroque... I mean.

"Furry art" is a name. for art featuring anthropomorphic animal characters.

Let people use the words they want to use.

Especially since that that word comes from another culture and they're happy using it in that way. Not everything has to be translated to english. c_c

HenkeiUsagi said:
for me, kemono and furry are the same, just words to identify this fandom of ours :3

actually, from what I've gathered, it's a bit different. Most furries have fursonas, or self-representational characters.. but most kemono artists, from what I understand, don't. They might have a group of characters that they draw, they may have a personal mascot... but they are rarely "Me, as a fox"

I see kemono as a different type or a kind of furry, with a distinct ''otherness'' that stems from their non-western origin, but still with an essence that is furry.

Foxes with tits are still foxes with tits.

Kemono is cute, in my opinion but I don't likelike... super Hyper >.>

SnowWolf said:
actually, from what I've gathered, it's a bit different. Most furries have fursonas, or self-representational characters.. but most kemono artists, from what I understand, don't. They might have a group of characters that they draw, they may have a personal mascot... but they are rarely "Me, as a fox"

that is true indeed, the lack of our foreground or background in the subjects recalls to not being able to tether the difference between them.
i also could add what i feel diferent between them both, cuz they are so diferent yet so similar, is like human stereotypes, discecting what is meant for stuff and all, but overall all is the same.

kemono : is more artistic focused, meaning they give special personalities between each similar character.

Furry : is more towards being free and be "annonimous" in society, giving the person a fursona, a play or role play for them to communicate with the other ones.

Both : both loves to do "cute" stuff, this comes from what each place understands for cute itself. furry kemono is just a trend that drive people to be wild, free, happy, and try to find friendship, is more or less what it meant to be alive, but choosing what we could be, not only for being human, but in the society in a wholesome way.

but of course, is just my opinion, and i like furry/kemono stuff because they are more fantastic than humanized shapes of countless characters :3

I never liked and most likely will like SFM porn of anything, Furries, normal humans, anything. My biggest problem with SFM models is they only can work on other Vavle character and/or props.

General-Rusty said:
I never liked and most likely will like SFM porn of anything, Furries, normal humans, anything. My biggest problem with SFM models is they only can work on other Vavle character and/or props.

There's lots of non-Valve character models and props that are available to use on SFM it's just you usually see TF2 and CS:GO maps and props because people are too lazy to find maps that aren't already downloaded onto their computers or don't know how to use Hammer to create their own.

General-Rusty said:
I never liked and most likely will like SFM porn of anything, Furries, normal humans, anything. My biggest problem with SFM models is they only can work on other Vavle character and/or props.

What does this have to do with Kemono/Not kemono stuff..?

FoxFourOhFour said:
What does this have to do with Kemono/Not kemono stuff..?

I suspect he read the title and thought it was a thread for any "unpopular opinion."

Furrin_Gok said:
I suspect he read the title and thought it was a thread for any "unpopular opinion."

You're damn right