So, feral_armor seems to be the tag that was discussed here: post #172611 --there's not much there, but I haven't tried to populate the tag too much yet: feral armor has something like 4000 posts :P

we do have a clothing for ferals wearing clothing, though. Clothed_feral

So.. should it be Armored_feral? OR should it be feral_clothing?

we have busty_feral, which seems like a vote for *_feral over feral_*?

I dunno. Thoughts?

Feral_armor and armored_feral wouldn't refer to the same thing, though there would be a lot of overlap.

• Feral_armor would describe armor designed for feral use.
• Armored_feral would describe ferals wearing armor.

Feral armor has a fairly high false hit rate, especially if MLP is removed.

It would be cool if barding wasn't aliased away.

PS. You made a post link instead of a forum link.

BlueDingo said:
Feral_armor and armored_feral wouldn't refer to the same thing, though there would be a lot of overlap.

• Feral_armor would describe armor designed for feral use.
• Armored_feral would describe ferals wearing armor.

I really don't think there would be TOO many pictures of armor designed for a feral just sitting around not on a feral. *shrugs8 could be wrong though.

That said, fair point.

Feral armor has a fairly high false hit rate, especially if MLP is removed.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that feral armor was at all an accurate search--just that it was a lot of posts to go through to actually populate the tag.

It would be cool if barding wasn't aliased away.

Yep. It sure would :(

SnowWolf said:
I really don't think there would be TOO many pictures of armor designed for a feral just sitting around not on a feral. *shrugs* could be wrong though.

I found one. There's bound to be a few others.

post #138042

SnowWolf said:
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that feral armor was at all an accurate search--just that it was a lot of posts to go through to actually populate the tag.

I know. Having a high false hit rate raises the need for the tag.

BlueDingo said:
I found one. There's bound to be a few others.

post #138042

I know. Having a high false hit rate raises the need for the tag.

Fair enough! Though ...

huh.

We don't seem to have an armor_stand tag. We should have one. o_o

I worry a bit about feral_armor and armored_feral getting mixed up, but I supose if they're both on most posts, it works. (If we had armor_stand. then feral_armor_or_whatever and armor_stand would cover your awesome kitty armor.

This would be easier to figure out if we had a tag for armored characters. But there's only the generic armor, and armored is aliased to it.

Clothed_feral made sense because of the existing clothed tag, but I'm not quite sure about creating an armored_feral tag when there's no base armored tag.. Being able to search for armored ferals but not for e.g. armored anthros seems inconsistent.

Okay.

No armored_feral for now.

Feral_armor would be more inclusive. Populate one tag first, then revisit it later if or when there's a need for greater specificity. I don't think there will be.

IMO, worn armor is clothing, deserving clothed, so clothed_feral should also describe worn feral_armor. Or are some feral_armors too maginal to count as "clothing"? I suppose a distinction should be made for riding gear, which may double as light armor, but I probably wouldn't consider it feral_armor if it's just a simple saddle/bridle/reins combination. If there's forehead protection too (feral_helmet might be worth using, probably the most used feral_armor?), then feral_armor should be appropriate.

This idea has some friction with furgonomics, also. Shall furgonomics not describe feral clothing?

Genjar said:
This would be easier to figure out if we had a tag for armored characters. But there's only the generic armor, and armored is aliased to it.

what?? *looks at forum #172770* I'll summarize: A says "we should alias this." B says we shouldn't. A says "you're right." C says "Yeah, I agree, we shouldn't." P says "I like aliasing it ... I aliased it :D" *mutter mutter grumble mutter*

Clothed_feral made sense because of the existing clothed tag, but I'm not quite sure about creating an armored_feral tag when there's no base armored tag.. Being able to search for armored ferals but not for e.g. armored anthros seems inconsistent.

There's a bit of a point there.

It might be nicer to have a tag for, like, armor-not-on-a-person See also: armor stand. Anyway:

abadbird said:
Okay.

No armored_feral for now.

Feral_armor would be more inclusive. Populate one tag first, then revisit it later if or when there's a need for greater specificity. I don't think there will be.

IMO, worn armor is clothing, deserving clothed, so clothed_feral should also describe worn feral_armor. Or are some feral_armors too maginal to count as "clothing"? I suppose a distinction should be made for riding gear, which may double as light armor, but I probably wouldn't consider it feral_armor if it's just a simple saddle/bridle/reins combination. If there's forehead protection too (feral_helmet might be worth using, probably the most used feral_armor?), then feral_armor should be appropriate.

on the topic of armor as clothing, I can argue myself into the corner either way.

that said, I wouldn't trust the layperson to be able to tell the difference between riding gear and armor.... but I dunno. Fuzzy lines. If only barding was still a tag...

This idea has some friction with furgonomics, also. Shall furgonomics not describe feral clothing?

I see furgonomics more as "here is human styled clothing that we have adapted to furry needs"... whereas, a corgi's power armor was always made for the corgi. Y'know? If I make an armored vest for my k9 police doggo, it's not furgonomics. I see furgonomics focusing on clever adaptations, not just "My tail comes out of a hole" :D

SnowWolf said:
It might be nicer to have a tag for, like, armor-not-on-a-person See also: armor stand.

So something like discarded_clothing, except for armor? And searching for armor -discarded_armor (or whatever it'd be called) would find worn armor?

Yeah, that might be the best way to handle it.
It reminds me how the holding_weapon tag turned out to be almost useless: if there's a weapon in the image you can bet that someone is holding it.. Would've been far easier to just tag the weapons that aren't being held.

Genjar said:
So something like discarded_clothing, except for armor? And searching for armor -discarded_armor (or whatever it'd be called) would find worn armor?

Yeah, that might be the best way to handle it.

Well, I meant an actual wooden frame you put armor onto while not in use, but discarded armor is probably better.

of course discarded doesn't feel like it should be hanging neatly in the stand, but unworn_armor doesn't match with discarded_clothing.

That said, I think I agree. discarded_armor will fit the need. :) I still thing, I dunno, Displayed_armor might be a neat one for armor on display, but that's my trying to overcomplicate.

It reminds me how the holding_weapon tag turned out to be almost useless: if there's a weapon in the image you can bet that someone is holding it.. Would've been far easier to just tag the weapons that aren't being held.

well, holding it or attacked to their body... strapped on or on a hip or what have you. But, yeah, I see that struggle :(

Genjar said:
It reminds me how the holding_weapon tag turned out to be almost useless: if there's a weapon in the image you can bet that someone is holding it.. Would've been far easier to just tag the weapons that aren't being held.

sheathed_weapon, planted_weapon