There's a wiki version here: e621:ambiguous tags, which may not be as up-to-date as the replies to this forum version. See forum #187449 for more info

See forum #185277 for a list of ambiguous tags by date added, rather than type

(it's listed in alphabetical order, but categorized by date, if that makes sense. May change that if someone suggests it)

Last Updated: August 2016

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Instead of cluttering the stickied tagging project topic with a bunch of ambiguous tags/replies, I'm going to list them here. Feel free to update this OP/do the same

[o]Some of these entries may not necessarily need disambiguating[/o]

• Forum \# links are listed from most-least recent in the case of multiple instances of discussions

Key

Ar - Artist
Ch - Character
Co - Copyright
Ge - General
Sp - Species

[Order tentative]
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Character Tags

Artist Tags

Species Tags

Copyright Tags

General Tags

Tag Changelog by Year

Last updated: August 2016

To keep things simple, this includes only tags that were mentioned in replies to forum #185266 for now.

[Reserved for Other2 Tags]

Feel free to mention any mistakes/updates/improvements you think of that makes everything easier to keep track of

Forum: [color=LimeGreen]Open[/color]

Diving.
Mix of underwater diving, and characters who are making a diving motion.

post #703700 post #654743 post #738305 post #761389

Indian
Native Americans and Asians...

post #239008 post #116595

Letters: Text and missives.

Studs: Ornamental studs and hunks.

Helpless: Restrained, bound, and some other uses.

Full: Some after-vore posts, some inflation, some forgotten underscores (full_moon), etc.

Added~

all general

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Since we have a dedicated wiki for this now, what I'm thinking of doing is only update the forum OPs periodically (maybe every week or so) to keep things less hectic

Maybe even list the most recent tags in the OPs (within the past year or so? dunno), so people can have a better idea of what's relevant

Ideas about that welcome too

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the variety of text formatting in that OP is ridiculous

mint is a chartag

Here's a major one: dark. Almost 1500 posts.

Even the wiki description is ambiguous:

This tag is generally used to describe images where characters are not that well visible, perhaps being outside at night or otherwise enshrouded. It also sometimes refers to images that have an emotional subtext that's nasty and vindictive.

Should probably be disambiguated into darkness (and night), dark_theme, and... what tag do we have for the other usage? Grimdark?

Crystal. The wiki entry predates disambiguation, but lists most of the usages. There's also crystals, which is considerably less ambiguous.

Genjar said:
Should probably be disambiguated into darkness (and night), dark_theme, and... what tag do we have for the other usage? Grimdark?

grimdark is a genre not a word for dark like the others you mentioned.

in the case of fanfics grimdark would likely be a story that is both grim and dark in nature. kinda like the cupcake or rainbow factory stories the mlp:FIM fandom have.

All done~

Added everything, even the uncertain ones for now to be sure

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Thinking of only listing the most recent changes per month in the forum OP (which is March as of posting this, and April in a couple of days)

Too short?

Edit: On second thought,
since they're sorted alphabetically, and not by date, that might become a pain (if not infeasible) to isolate the tags that were added by date alone

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@Genjar et al:

Are the *_(disambiguation) tags 'official'?[/s] What if we made them into a separate tag type altogether? Main considerations I can think of about that for now: + Makes keeping track of tags that have already been disambiguated to some extent much easier + Since there's a dedicated tag/type for it, the relevant tagging projects are also much easier to track/start - [not really sure at the moment, list any if you know]

titanmelon said:
Are the *_(disambiguation) tags 'official'? [/quote] https://e621.net/tag_alias?query=disambiguation [quote]"titanmelon":/user/show/41009 said: What if we made them into a separate tag type altogether? [/quote] I've been wanting to do that for a while now, but when I remember I need to add metatag support (disambiguationtags:<2) and rewrite the code to prevent users from making their own, I end up more distracted than anything. :/

Sounds great! Yeah, conditional searching would be super useful for narrowing down ambiguous tags within each *_(disambiguation), especially the more common ones like rough*, holding* etc.

Rudolph. Mostly reindeers.

Ginger. A name, a plant, and a hair color.

P.S / Self note: I'll eventually add all the *_(disambiguation) aliases, so don't bother mentioning those unless something comes up with them

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@Genjar:

Added

Should sphynx and sphinx have less ambiguous names?

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Sphynx and sphinx? I haven't seen anyone mix those up, but it could probably happen. So aliasing the former to sphynx_cat wouldn't hurt.

Which reminds me...

Panther is somewhat ambiguous. It is tagged for all felines from the genus Panthera (jaguar, leopard, lion, tiger), and also used as a generic tag for any larger felines. Such as cougars and cheetahs.

Properly disambiguating it would take a ridiculous amount of work... But we should avoid tagging it whenever possible. Alternately, we could re-purpose it to mean big cat, although I can't think of any existing species tags that have such a split. ^{_{And size split is not too relevant in case of anthros, since all species tend to be drawn in same size.}}

Cream.

Pitcher. A jug, a baseball term, and 'top' in m/m sex (sometimes also tagged for other genders).

Hovering. Too vague. Should be disambiguated to flying, floating, midair, etc.

Anonymous. Complete mess. Anonymous_artist, the group Anonymous, unknown_artist and anon all mixed up.

Sharing. There were a lot of collaborative_fellatio posts, which I already sorted out. And the first instance of collaborative_footjob that I've seen. Remaining posts are for things like shared partners, shared possessions, or gift-giving. No idea why posts such as post #18936 have it. ...shared sofa?

Pepper. Character and spice.

Curves. Mostly tagged for voluptuous (curvy), with a few rare exceptions that'd fit better under lithe, coiling (snakes), etc. Might be possible to alias it to voluptuous.

Grabbing. Already has a wiki entry.

Profile. Side_views and character profiles.

Arctic. Characters named Arctic, and polar environments.

Rip and ripping. 98% torn_clothing, 2% other torn things... Ugh.

Black_eye. Bruised eyes, and an eye color.

Bulging. Bulging what? Eyes? Muscles?

Juice and juices. Need to be sorted to proper tags (cum, pussy_juice, ambiguous_fluids, etc.)

Relationship. Vague.

Squirt. Mostly milk, some cumshots.

Tiny. Tiny what?

sabertooth_(feature) - teeth
saber-toothed_cat - animal

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troll

not sure how sorted this is, the term alone can refer to:

• the fictional species from folklore
• there are a bunch of these
• internet trolls (no tag for that)
• trolling
• trollface meme
• troll_(homestuck)
• trollz

Hm, assuming the post character count limit doesn't become a problem, I'm considering just listing all the tags in the OPs in alphabetical order, rather than by type

• doing that allows you to more easily look up a tag and see if it's already counted/known, so you don't risk submitting a duplicate entry, where an update may have been better

Thoughts?

Many ambiguous tags mix two or more categories, which makes it tough to pigeonhole them into any single section. So yeah, an alphabetized list seems better.

titanmelon said:
troll

not sure how sorted this is

Not very.
I've chipped at it occasionally, but never found time to fully sort it. The older posts in particular are a mess.

zodiac is an artist tag

created zodiac_(constellation) for the..constellations

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Ok, I'll resort everything alphabetically unless someone bothers to object with a better reason
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Hm, should there be an internet_troll tag?

post #108518

this one's kind of a mixed example though, really have no clue what to about that if anything

titanmelon said:
zodiac is an artist tag

created zodiac_(constellation) for the..constellations

See zodiac_(astrology), modern_zodiac and chinese_zodiac.
You can use wildcards when searching the master tag list.

Hm, the first has a rather low count, but *_(astrology) covers the personified theme better, I'd be ok with using that as the standard zodiac tag

should the artist tag stay un..disambiguated?

titanmelon said:
zodiac is an artist tag

created zodiac_(constellation) for the..constellations

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Ok, I'll resort everything alphabetically unless someone bothers to object with a better reason
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Hm, should there be an internet_troll tag?

post #108518

this one's kind of a mixed example though, really have no clue what to about that if anything

That particular one looks more like an orc. "Internet" trolls tend to be Anon, human, or the troll species.

Stephen. Common name, though most of them are of this character:

post #212722

...I wonder if the character has a surname. Would make it easy to sort. If not, then stephen_(juano) should work.

tail_wrap - giant mess, mentioned in multiple places

https://e621.net/forum/show/188816

ember - various characters, and hot coals

amber - name, invalid color, and fossilized tree resin

laying_back - random mix of reclining and on_back

Probably not as ambiguous as the rest in here, but for those who don't already know what it's for, power_bottom could mean anything butt-related

titanmelon said:
Probably not as ambiguous as the rest in here, but for those who don't already know what it's for, power_bottom could mean anything butt-related

Power bottom refers to any sort of penetration, it's just that the one being penetrated is the dominant one.

• Added everything mentioned so far to forum #185277
• EXCEPT: power_bottom - still waiting for additional opinions on that one, since I'm not sure if the sub/dom context @Furrin_Gok mentioned is commonplace enough to warrant it
• (though I'm not too familiar with bdsm terms and never heard of it, so there's that..)

• Added a full alphabetical listing to e621:ambiguous tags as mentioned earlier
• The alphabetical listing and type listings are still out of date for April though, but the list by date at the bottom isn't

• added envy - Ch (Ge), forum #190453 - Puzzled why "envy" is a character? (Apr. 2016)

titanmelon said:

• added envy - Ch (Ge), forum #190453 - Puzzled why "envy" is a character? (Apr. 2016)

People do the seven deadly sins as characters sometimes. They really ought to tag it with a suffix, but sometimes they don't.

Furrin_Gok said:
People do the seven deadly sins as characters sometimes. They really ought to tag it with a suffix, but sometimes they don't.

Oh, right. Personification.
Such characters should probably be tagged as *_(personification) for consistency, instead of *_(character).

Irene. Artist and also a common name. The tag bounces between arttag and chartag all the time.

Mentioning it in here, since we don't seem to have a 'Tag Standards' forum (should I make one?)

Suggestion from @Qmannn about ambiguous tag standardization

forum #190461 (emphasis mine)

Qmannn said:
If we're going to add disambiguation tags, we should probably tag exactly what the character is associated with instead of just adding _(charater) so that similarly named characters aren't confused.

e.g. envy_(fullmetal_alchemist), envy_(artist name), or envy_(character owner) instead of envy_(character).

I'm kinda surprised that this isn't being done regularly.

Note to add:

• envy (kuroodod)

wrath (kuroodod)
sloth (kuroodod)
pride (kuroodod)
greed (kuroodod)
gluttony (kuroodod)
lust (kuroodod)

rose - plant, some characters
there's a rose_(flower) tag. Should that be used for the plant? (rose can refer to the plant itself or just the flower)

rosemary - plant, currently a character tag

rose_woman Ch - ???

alraune is a chartag, but I'm pretty sure it refers to multiple instances of the character

unimpressive - artist

pumpkin spice - character

Metal. ...that's a bad one, for sure. Mix of metallic objects, metallic bodyparts, even metal music.

Ghastly. Almost empty right now, but it is an extremely common misspelling of gastly. Also sometimes used as an adjective, and for ghastly's_ghastly_comic.

• Added zodiac_(webcomic) to the wiki

Not sure what's going to happen if another webcomic called zodiac ever makes it to the site

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(Didn't add anything else in here- will likely do that at the end of each month to keep it simple)

the flood - species

profile. side_view and model_sheet (character_profile).

inanimate - species. not sure if this is used enough, if at all as an adjectival tag to warrant disambiguating see Genjar's post below

(leaving mention of this here for now until/if it actually gets aliased) aliased to animate_inanimate

titanmelon said:
inanimate - species. not sure if this is used enough, if at all as an adjectival tag to warrant disambiguating

forum #188563

degradation - "One or more characters saying and/or doing degrading things to another or others. Often implies dialog."

Dunno how often it's used for the other contexts [wiktionary], if at all (will check later)

scylla
scylla_(coc)
scylla_(daesyxvilre)
scylla_(smite)

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tuke [ar]
tukè [ch]

(I'll try to update everything in here soonish)

Changelog/Update - Jul. 30 2016

Added everything so far to e621:ambiguous tags except:

• animate/animate_inanimate
• not sure if there's a need to mention that on
• *_(disambiguation) tags

Note: In most cases, tags with <5 count were omitted

• Updated e621:ambiguous tags
• added Top links
• redid the full alphabetical list into table format
• feedback on that welcome

• Didn't update the changelog by date yet (May-July)
• Didn't update OPs

• added is_(artist)

titanmelon said:

• added is_(artist)

What's ambiguous about that? Is there an another artist who goes by the same name?

Come to think about it, what's up with half of these entries? irene_rita_sandburg_(nightfaux)? ...ambiguous?

frill - anatomy, clothing and uh, synonym for ridges/barbs ?

Genjar said:
What's ambiguous about that? Is there an another artist who goes by the same name?

Come to think about it, what's up with half of these entries? irene_rita_sandburg_(nightfaux)? ...ambiguous?

Because not everybody is going to know about them

Somebody tagging irene* may not know the full name exists and just tag irene instead

Same for is*

titanmelon said:
Because not everybody is going to know about them

Then it should be listed on that tags' wiki page.

I thought that purpose of this list was to list ambiguous ones, so we can easily see what's left to fix. Mixing in ones that have already been disambiguated just makes it pointless.

Hm, that's a good point

We could have a separate section for already disambiguated tags too

Genjar said:
What's ambiguous about that? Is there an another artist who goes by the same name?

Come to think about it, what's up with half of these entries? irene_rita_sandburg_(nightfaux)? ...ambiguous?

...Their name is "is." What is not ambiguous about that? Is is a very common and generic word that is used just about everywhere. People may assume it is an invalid tag and remove it.

Furrin_Gok said:
...Their name is "is." What is not ambiguous about that? Is is a very common and generic word that is used just about everywhere. People may assume it is an invalid tag and remove it.

is is ambiguous. Whereas is_(artist) is clearly an artist tag.

Genjar said:
is is ambiguous. Whereas is_(artist) is clearly an artist tag.

I figured titan was saying he added it as a nonambiguous solution to the problem.

(I'll be listing these in table format from now on to make it quicker to add to the wiki)

tamper | Ar | -

feeding: total mess, too much for me to sort out at the moment. Overeating, vore, feeding animals, drinking cum(?!), feeding tubes, etc.

pluto | Ch | -

pluto_ellipse | Ch | -

pluto_(dwarf_planet) | Ge | [!]

bongo | Ge, Sp | instruments and animals

Changelog/Update - August 12 2016

• Updated Tag listing by year (forum)
• Updated wiki listing by year

• Added everything to this point

• Started listing entries in table format: [[tag]] | type | notes/easily confused tags

nedroid.com (presumably the name of the webcomic) is currently aliased to the artist tag, nedroid (presumably the name of the artist, whose actual name is Anthony Clark)

No idea what to do about that, unless we use the artist's real name instead

cobalt | Ch |

Balls is ambiguous at best and when you start delving into fetish tags like ballbusting and especially castration and there are internal shots where you can see the actual BALLS it becomes a little awkward to tag.

If we're disambiguating other tags might as well hit this one while.

The reason for this also is fundamentally we use the tag right now to defer to any instances of a scrotum. We dont tag balls on scalies with internal nuts because we don't see them and if we do its because its exposed so that's tagged with exposed_testicle.

Let's fix this up.

disclaimer | Ar
disclaimer_(artist) | Ar

lamb_(feretta) | Ch | -