Topic: Tag Alias: ball_growth -> balls_expansion

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The ex

Delian said:
Well, it would be kinda strange to say muscle_expansion, tail_expansion, feet_expansion..

So to be consistent, we would actually need to alias them all to growth, because expansion sounds wrong in most cases.

Parts of the body involved in common sex appeal make sense as being expansion, though. Butts, breast, penis, balls, nipples, areola, pussy/vulva, and clitoris.

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Delian said:
Well, it would be kinda strange to say muscle_expansion, tail_expansion, feet_expansion..

So to be consistent, we would actually need to alias them all to growth, because expansion sounds wrong in most cases.

Uh. None of those sound wrong at all. As a native English speaker literally all of those sound completely fine.

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I dunno. I feel like growth is a bit more specific and it should be used if it fits. Growth is used primarily for living things, so if the thing is organic, if it grew in the past, then growth should be used.

For instance: Trees grow. They don't expand.

Any other native english speaker that believes there's nothing wrong with expansion in all cases?

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Genjar

Former Staff

*_growth sounds better to me in most cases.

But regardless, what is that fetish usually called by those who are into it? That's the name we should use.

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Delian said:
I dunno. I feel like growth is a bit more specific and it should be used if it fits. Growth is used primarily for living things, so if the thing is organic, if it grew in the past, then growth should be used.

For instance: Trees grow. They don't expand.

Any other native english speaker that believes there's nothing wrong with expansion in all cases?

Growth is over long periods of time, expansion is over short periods.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Growth is over long periods of time, expansion is over short periods.

To me, growth sounds like something becoming larger naturally. While expansion sounds like a unnatural enlargement of a specific body part, similar to inflation (which is also implicated by belly_expansion).

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JAKXXX3 said:
To me, growth sounds like something becoming larger naturally. While expansion sounds like a unnatural enlargement of a specific body part, similar to inflation (which is also implicated by belly_expansion).

Okay, in that case: Any specific body part getting larger is likely unnatural. The entire body would be natural, but not the specific limbs or portions.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Okay, in that case: Any specific body part getting larger is likely unnatural. The entire body would be natural, but not the specific limbs or portions.

My use of the word 'natural' was used to distinguish between the two terms. Growth sounds natural as it is generally used to describe an organism getting larger over time due to aging (usually), with body parts maintaining similar size proportional to the rest of the body. Expansion sounds as though it is specific to a single region of the body over a short period, which is generally unnatural. Though not everything natural grows at the exact same rate. Human heads grow slower than the rest of the body, and there are of course example of dynamic 'growth' such as puffer fish and erections.

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Um, coming from someone who commonly makes use of such tags, and in relation to growth being potentially aliased as expansion, "penis_expansion" just sounds... fairly odd. That is, "expansion" does not generally mentally correlate with penises, for some reason. Getting into the sciences regarding the proper terminology of all this sort seems kind of... I dunno, redundant? After all, it's a fetish, and this fetish is generally referred to as some sort of "penis growth." Yet at the same time there is "breast/butt expansion." I am not sure why it's like this, but... it is. So essentially, despite probable scientific inaccuracy regarding the terminology, I feel we should keep stuff such as "penis_growth" as growth, for the sake of respecting the fetish.

However, I would greatly like for ball_growth and balls_expansion to be aliased. I myself tend to use ball_growth, probably because I already relate increasement in size of the penis to "growth." Regardless, I feel that this is something that most definately should be done. They're one in the same, after all. People tend to use either one or the other, leading to search results for one withholding results for the other, despite, again, them being the same thing.

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Genjar said:
I'd rather keep *_growth.

If it were aliased, you're not exactly losing it.

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just my 2 cents, i do think all should go under growth, expansion i would regard as external mostly operative methods of making parts of the body larger thru things like breast/butt implants, certain skin grafts, certain bodymods(ex.:like plug peircings that expand parts of the ear)and the like....

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bumping this, I also still maintain that all bodypart expansion tags should be aliased to their growth equivalent.

Also a note on those mentioning growth being gradual(over time) while expansion being something that is basicly rapid change, it should be clarified that both can be gradual or rapid, rapid growth does appear in nature in some species, and there are real life cases of spinal or foot expansion that are gradual rather then rapid. At best they can be diferentiated in that expansion would be something that is temporary and growth is something that is permanent, but that is not realy something that is taggable under TWYS.

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Genjar

Former Staff

-1, since these have been reorganized.

*_growth

now is for growing new parts (usually transformation), *_expansion is for existing parts becoming larger (transformation, inflation, etc).

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Genjar said:
-1, since these have been reorganized.

*_growth

now is for growing new parts (usually transformation), *_expansion is for existing parts becoming larger (transformation, inflation, etc).

might you clarify this reorganization you speak of as the wiki's state nothing in that regard to make a difference nor have you linked a forum were that would be addressed.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Darou said:
might you clarify this reorganization you speak of as the wiki's state nothing in that regard to make a difference nor have you linked a forum were that would be addressed.

See tail_growth, etc. Rest of the *_growth tags were standardized to use the same format, though some of the remaining wiki entries may be outdated.

I proposed that a couple of months back and got go-ahead for it, but didn't touch the balls yet. Because the name needs to be sorted out first. (balls_* or ball_* as the tag names. I'd go with the latter, that's far more common already. Pretty much the only other balls_* tag we have besides balls_expansion is balls_touching.)

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