Topic: Best way to get comics made? (commissions)

Posted under Art Talk

I have a storyline that I'd very much like to see in comic form.

But sadly I have the drawing talents of a doorknob with a paintbrush taped to the side.

I'm trying to figure out if there are any reasonable prices for a full comic storyline by any good artists. It does NOT have to be colored that's just a bonus.

I'm not 100% sure if I'm going to try and commission an artist to do a comic for me YET because well... the storyline is quite extensive and I'm not sure how much money that would take... But if you guys know any artist(s) that do this sort of thing, telling me about them or listing their prices would be a huge help.

Normally I'd go to my favorite artists (Doxy/Onta, Zeiro, Shnider, Audrarius) but not only do I think they don't have the time, but I also think the price would be too high :( as mcuh as their price is reasonable for a single picture (which reminds me I should start talking to Zeiro again about something >.>) I don't think a full comic would be within my price range for people of these talents.

Some additional details that are probably relevant:

  • 2 main characters a male femboy and a female. A decent example of body style that I want for both below. I have better descriptions of them but no pictures as of yet so just providing body type examples.

Male femboy (Exceedingly girly male, prey animal type)
post #859325

Female (Tall, intimidating, predator animal type)
post #520606

  • As of right now I've got 10-15 pages planned with likely over double that (20+) after that depending.
  • Budget is not set in stone. Without any idea of what the average price of comic pages is, it's hard for me to nail down how much I'm prepared to spend.
  • Artist has to be comfortable with the following kinks/fetishes: Femboys, pet play, dominant females, public nudity/sex.
  • Also has to be prepared for scenes showing combat (Though rare) there will be some.

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If you list your budget, estimated page count, and other details it might help narrow down an artist :)

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wolftacos said:
If you list your budget, estimated page count, and other details it might help narrow down an artist :)

It's kinda hard for me to set an exact budget. Because I don't know a lot of things that would be important to set an exact number like that. For example, page count.

To try and HELP narrow down these sorts of details cause I do understand they can be important. I know the exact details of what I want for around 10-15 pages as of right now. I know a lot more will come, but I know exactly what I want in those first 10-15 and I'm sorta toying with what comes after those.

Other details that may be relevant are:

  • Main character(s) as there is two. Currently consist of a male femboy, and one female. It's not 100% a sexual comic, there is plenty of explicit content that will be involved but that's not the focus of it. Most of the sexual content comes from (And I'm only including this in case an artist is uncomfortable with these kinks) pet play, public sex/nudity, and female domination.

More details to be added I'm just slightly busy atm. Sorry I shoulda included more before posting!

Updated by anonymous

I added some details to the original post. Including the types of bodies I'm hoping for the artist to be able to draw and my general (but not final) idea of length.

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The best way to get comics made is by creating a Youtube channel.

Then make videos where you don't show your face, and where you complain about other comics.
Tell your audience that these comics are shit, and that the Industry is controlled by evil people.
Also tell your audience that the Industry can only be saved by returning it to the 1950's (pristine state).
This, in turn, can only be accomplished by donating to your Patreon/Kickstarter/Indiegogo/etc.

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Daigaijin and Aogami do comic commissions all the time, and at least Aogami is willing to draw basically anything in existence. Smudgeproof might also be willing to draw comics, but I'm not sure.

You'll have to check on their pages at what price they'd be willing to work, though.

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SnowWolf

Former Staff

A whole comic can be pretty scary for some artists... That's a BIG commitment to a LOT of work...

I know some comics are commmisioned page-by-page, or series of pages by series of pages.

I know some bounce between artists, though I find that a bit jarring, TBH.

One other importnat thing I can offer is that comic lay outs can be tricky-- a good artist isn't always a good comic artist.

A common folly is pacing. When the center of a movie drags, it's because htey should trim some footage out, but for a comic, it's a lot trickier. Too much dialog, or too much focus on facial expressions or what have you can suddenly cause a drag when the focus is suposed to be on swiftly moving toward.

So, make sure you get an *experienced* comic artist and keep in mind that you probably don't have a clue about how to make a good comic yourself. Work with them on the lay out and pacing. If you have any particular shots you want, mention it, but keep in mind that the artist proooobably knows better , and that htey SHOUDL be able to work with most requests.

Also.... . and this is me speaking out of my ass here.. . rather than message people with a long essay about what you want, say something like "I'm interested in commissioning you to do a 15-ish page comic (Part 1 of a longer series, hopefully!) focusing mostly on a femboy mouse and a sabertoothed tiger girl. The story would be detailing how they get together, and their evolving relationship focusing around femdom, pet play and public sex. Eventually (in later isntallments) there will be some sci-fi elements, and some fight scenes, but the focus remains on the trust between the two main characters." ... or something. Try to sell the comic idea to them in 2-3 sentences.

No one wants to read a 5 paragraph summary of the WHOLE story in a "are you interested?" message. :)

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SnowWolf said:
A whole comic can be pretty scary for some artists... That's a BIG commitment to a LOT of work...

Yeah that's one of the major issues I had when starting to consider finding an artist for this. Since this story is extensive and I'd rather use one artist for the whole thing, it's hard to make sure I find an artist who is ready to pump out tons of pages cause I know a lot of times artists get into this to make stuff they enjoy and I'm not sure if they'd enjoy visually recreating my story for 40 years haha.

SnowWolf said:
I know some bounce between artists, though I find that a bit jarring, TBH.

Yup see above for that ^

SnowWolf said:
One other importnat thing I can offer is that comic lay outs can be tricky-- a good artist isn't always a good comic artist.

A common folly is pacing. When the center of a movie drags, it's because htey should trim some footage out, but for a comic, it's a lot trickier. Too much dialog, or too much focus on facial expressions or what have you can suddenly cause a drag when the focus is suposed to be on swiftly moving toward.

I pretty much know the pace at which I want all scenes to move. I could actually write the entire story myself right now (as writing is something I'm comfortable with) but I would rather see this story in visual form.

SnowWolf said:
but keep in mind that the artist proooobably knows better

Yeah I learned that by now. When I originally went to commission from Zeiro I went in upfront asking for his help in the design I wanted to go wtih because again, as I mentioned in the post. I have the visual creativity of a painting kit with a frowny face drawn on it. (Which reminds me, I should get back in touch with him now that I'm prepared to spend the money he was asking for)

SnowWolf said:
focusing mostly on a femboy mouse and a sabertoothed tiger girl.

Not quite haha. Can't blatantly rip off Fallas character :P as beautiful as she is, that's not fair~ And also I intend the femboy to likely be a bunny. OR possibly a fennec I'm iffy about that one cause the long ears are super cute. (see: Etheras who apparently no longer has pics on this site wtf happened?...)

SnowWolf said:
No one wants to read a 5 paragraph summary of the WHOLE story in a "are you interested?" message. :)

Yup I already understand that. I'd start by asking if they're up for a comic commission at all (And mentioning potential length) before providing any details firstly so that the details don't get spread around before it's actually made, and second so I don't flood their inbox with something they're not interested in from the start (comic)

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Chirmaya said:
Since I have experience working with these two, both who I highly recommend if you enjoy their art style, I thought I'd follow this up with more info:

Aogami's sketched page cost: $40-80 (which is 1-2 hours depending on complexity of the page)
Daigaijin's $115-230 (sketched-coloured)

I'll have to go check them out before I comment any further. But thanks for adding a bit to the names suggested by NotMe

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SnowWolf

Former Staff

Cynosure said:
Words!

You do have a great way with words :)

You've got your mind in the right place... awesome. :) I"m so use to people who are unfamiliar with the process-- I used to take small commission and would get HUGE paragraphs about their character's backstory and girlfriend and etc etc. meanwhile I'm just like "Dude. it's a tiny pixel animation. You already asked for them to be wearing a hat. I don't need to know where the hat came from.

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SnowWolf said:
"Dude. it's a tiny pixel animation. You already asked for them to be wearing a hat. I don't need to know where the hat came from.

Like those food reviews that start with a paragraph and a half about how the process it took for them to finally try the restaurant. "I first heard of Bunnybutts Eatery back in 1694 when I was sailing to the arctic with my friend william the third-"

Meanwhile you're staring at your phone like "Man I just wana know if the pepper coated fries are good...."

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NotMeNotYou said:
Daigaijin and Aogami do comic commissions all the time, and at least Aogami is willing to draw basically anything in existence. Smudgeproof might also be willing to draw comics, but I'm not sure.

You'll have to check on their pages at what price they'd be willing to work, though.

I don't think Daigainjin is anywhere near the style I'm looking for in this. But Aogami might work depending on a few factors.

Smudgeproof... I feel like I recognize the name... Is he the one who is known to be willing to draw anything no matter what? Or am I thinking of the guy who draws Venus? Internet is too slow at teh moment to search him up :( barely loaded this page.

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Cynosure said:

Smudgeproof... I feel like I recognize the name... Is he the one who is known to be willing to draw anything no matter what? Or am I thinking of the guy who draws Venus? Internet is too slow at teh moment to search him up :( barely loaded this page.

Smudgeproof will draw just about anything...

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NotMeNotYou said:
Daigaijin and Aogami do comic commissions all the time, and at least Aogami is willing to draw basically anything in existence. Smudgeproof might also be willing to draw comics, but I'm not sure.

You'll have to check on their pages at what price they'd be willing to work, though.

I don't think Daigainjin is anywhere near the style I'm looking for in this. But Aogami might work depending on a few factors.

Smudgeproof... I feel like I recognize the name... Is he the one who is known to be willing to draw anything no matter what? Or am I thinking of the guy who draws Venus? Internet is too slow at teh moment to search him up :( barely loaded this page.

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SnowWolf

Former Staff

Cynosure said:
Like those food reviews that start with a paragraph and a half about how the process it took for them to finally try the restaurant. "I first heard of Bunnybutts Eatery back in 1694 when I was sailing to the arctic with my friend william the third-"

Meanwhile you're staring at your phone like "Man I just wana know if the pepper coated fries are good...."

hahaha, exactly! I actually tripped over a review exactly like that yesterday.... drives me nuts.

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