Implicating talons → claws
Link to implication

Reason:

By definition: "A talon is the claw of a bird of prey, its primary hunting tool"

Talons are, simply, a form of claw, just ones seen on birds/avian-like creatures. Frankly I feel a claws implication is pretty appropriate and fitting.

EDIT: The tag implication talons -> claws (forum #258638) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

A talon is supposed to be the entire "toe," while a claw is just the nail at the end.

Furrin_Gok said:
A talon is supposed to be the entire "toe," while a claw is just the nail at the end.

Not true; the toe around talons are actually separate from the talon, often covered in scales/feathers/etc (dependent on species; owls have feathered feet for example).

Talons themselves are the names for the claws on the tips of their digits, not the entire digits themselves. They serve the same purpose as claws for a lot of things and look like them as well, and some species even have hidden talons on their "hand digits", like other animals with traditional claws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claw#Birds

Regardless, my point is that they look and perform the same tasks as claws and are even a form of claw, so imho having the implication isn't too out of left field.

If the issue is "how are we to keep toony creature with bird-like feet with no visible separate claws but sharpened digits LIKE talons (fletching for example) from being accidentally tagged as claws because of this" or "how am i to specifically find avian-like feet and toes without claws now?", the solution imho is the relatively recent tag bird feet. This tag is for the entirety of those scaly "bird toes", regardless of having talons or not, and would keep search/hiding them easier and solve the issue. Bird feet is, unfortunately, very undertagged.

Many of them are tagged as claws already (check out talon claw), and will likely keep getting tagged like that.

The *_talon tag group hasn't caught on, and tagging things such as talon colors as <color>_claw sounds easier anyway..

So overall I'm fine with this implication.

bump, just tried to request this

The tag implication talons -> claws (forum #258638) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

The bulk update request #6231 is pending approval.

create implication talons (18586) -> claws (545964)

Reason: I believe this implication is worthwhile

impididinkadoo said:
Talons themselves are the names for the claws on the tips of their digits, not the entire digits themselves. They serve the same purpose as claws for a lot of things and look like them as well, and some species even have hidden talons on their "hand digits", like other animals with traditional claws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claw#Birds

Regardless, my point is that they look and perform the same tasks as claws and are even a form of claw, so imho having the implication isn't too out of left field.

This makes me think this should be an alias. What is the difference between claws and talons, other than one being on birds?

Bump, are talons a subset or are basically claws? They definitely have some special treatment (talonjob is established while clawjob isn't and talons imply toes (hey should talonjob imply toejob (you'll have to be really talonted to do either)))

snpthecat said:
talons imply toes

They probably shouldn't, since they can also be hands/fingers:
post #4947137 post #4988402 post #5045183 post #5168533

It really is used to just mean claws on a bird-like creature.

Pretty much all of the posts tagged with talons just have claws on a bird (-like creature).
There is a reason to have a tag for "long, curved claws", but the way talons used currently is redundant.
Unimply toes, alias talons to claws.