I would just like to chime in and voice my appreciation for the no-human-only rule once more. Because seriously, I used the blacklist quite liberally to try to avoid the flood of human-only artwork that was coming in, but even so, a large amount got through anyway. It was getting more and more difficult to actually find new artwork that was at all relevant to my interests.

K.K., I do get where you're coming from; it would make me happy to see e621 with a story section. But, that's not this site's focus, and the fact that you like the site and it's layout doesn't mean they should change the focus to accommodate you.

Consider this. There are stores designed with left-handed folk in mind. What you are doing seems to me to be akin to going into a store like that, and complaining that they don't have right-handed implements for you. And when the manager tries to explain that there are plenty of stores that offer right-handed tools, and few left-handed stores, and that offering right-handed tools isn't the focus of the store, you counter with "but I like how you arrange the aisles here!".

You seem to want a reason why human-only art isn't accepted, but you won't accept the reason of "that's this site's focus". I don't see why you don't see that as a reasonable answer.

Clawdragons said:
I would just like to chime in and voice my appreciation for the no-human-only rule once more. Because seriously, I used the blacklist quite liberally to try to avoid the flood of human-only artwork that was coming in, but even so, a large amount got through anyway. It was getting more and more difficult to actually find new artwork that was at all relevant to my interests.

K.K., I do get where you're coming from; it would make me happy to see e621 with a story section. But, that's not this site's focus, and the fact that you like the site and it's layout doesn't mean they should change the focus to accommodate you.

Consider this. There are stores designed with left-handed folk in mind. What you are doing seems to me to be akin to going into a store like that, and complaining that they don't have right-handed implements for you. And when the manager tries to explain that there are plenty of stores that offer right-handed tools, and few left-handed stores, and that offering right-handed tools isn't the focus of the store, you counter with "but I like how you arrange the aisles here!".

You seem to want a reason why human-only art isn't accepted, but you won't accept the reason of "that's this site's focus". I don't see why you don't see that as a reasonable answer.

I'm not trying to get them to accommodate me specifically. I'm suggesting that they COULD accommodate to those who enjoy furry porn, as well as those who enjoy human-only art. I'm not forcing them, and I can't force them to. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but it could at least be an option. I just don't see why compromises can't be made.

For the reason why, I'm actually asking for the CONS of having human art here. I guess I didn't explain it well enough earlier.

Call me ignorant, but how do any stores have implements for specific-handed tools? Off the top of my head, tools are generally able to be used by different hands. (Also, I don't think there is any store out there with the left-handed folk in mind, but I'm thinking economically)

See, for that store example, as abstract as it is, addressing the minority makes sense, but are the pros outweighing the cons?

What do you mean by a " story section"?

K.K. said:
I just don't see why compromises can't be made

I think allowing old art from before policy changes to stay, and allowing humans so long as the image has at least something to do with furriness is a compromise.

K.K. said:
I'm actually asking for the CONS of having human art here.

This has been addressed:

NotMeNotYou said:
2. The amount of furry art, on the internet, is minuscule compared to human art, if we allow humans the furry portion would get drowned out almost instantly.
3. Every post needs to be approved manually, we already sit at ~800 new images every 24 hours, again, this is dwarfed by human content so we'd see this number rise exceptionally, which means a larger administrative overhead for moderating the content.

Basically, the furry art would be drowned out by human very quickly (which is opposite the primary purpose of this site) and would require much more administration to keep up with. It just isn't a cost efficient use of staff/time when the vast majority are here for furry-centric art and human art can be found elsewhere (even if not as pleasantly presented).

K.K. said:
What do you mean by a " story section"?

Some have moved to have capability put in place for uploading and tracking furry-centric fanfiction/writings. Administration has been pretty clear that this is an image hosting site and won't be branching out that way though.

Wodahseht said:

Some have moved to have capability put in place for uploading and tracking furry-centric fanfiction/writings. Administration has been pretty clear that this is an image hosting site and won't be branching out that way though.

I never suggested branching out like that, at all.

Frankly, if human only art is irrelevant, why can any recently posted human-only art of Mario characters be allowed? *or any other series who's art is allowed*, and if this is such a "big problem plaguing e621", why isn't it a reason for flagging for deletion?

K.K. said:
Frankly, if human only art is irrelevant, why can any recently posted human-only art of Mario characters be allowed? *or any other series who's art is allowed*

You still haven't provided examples.

K.K. said:
and if this is such a "big problem plaguing e621", why isn't it a reason for flagging for deletion?

Because deciding quality or relevance is not up to members. Images are all approved/deleted individually by one of the moderators, so if it's been approved it was already decided whether or not it was relevant. If it is still status:pending, it will usually be looked at within the next day or so and approved/deleted as needed.

Granted we get ~600-800 images per day, so mistakes are bound to happen. If you see something questionable that was recently approved, I'd just send a quick polite PM to the moderator who approved it asking them why.

parasprite said:
You still haven't provided examples.

Because deciding quality or relevance is not up to members. Images are all approved/deleted individually by one of the moderators, so if it's been approved it was already decided whether or not it was relevant. If it is still status:pending, it will usually be looked at within the next day or so and approved/deleted as needed.

Granted we get ~600-800 images per day, so mistakes are bound to happen. If you see something questionable that was recently approved, I'd just send a quick polite PM to the moderator who approved it asking them why.

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I'll put more as I see them. >=[

K.K. said:
Call me ignorant, but how do any stores have implements for specific-handed tools? Off the top of my head, tools are generally able to be used by different hands. (Also, I don't think there is any store out there with the left-handed folk in mind, but I'm thinking economically)

I don't like to call people ignorant, but yes, you are lacking knowledge in this respect.

Many tools are designed to be used by right-handed people. They may work for left-handed people, but usually they do not work as well. The classic example is scissors. This is a common design for scissors. You can see how the holes are designed such that they conform to the hand - the right hand. They are in the opposite orientation for the left hand, and it makes them more difficult to use. Additionally, both right handed and most "ambidextrous" scissors have the blades oriented such that when used in the right hand, the blades are naturally pushed together, facilitating cutting. When used in the left hand, the blades are naturally pushed apart, making cutting more difficult.

Here is an example of a store which focuses on left-handed tools.

I would also like to point out a personal pet peeve - many desks are designed for right-handed people. Again, here is an example.

Would a left-handed store do better if it catered to everyone, by supplying both left- and right-handed tools? Not necessarily. Because once they made that choice, they would lose the niche market - the dedicated left-handed market that had nowhere else to shop - while gaining very little (because right-handed people have literally everywhere else they can shop).

Just as there are far more right-handed people in the world, there is way more human porn out there than furry porn. If e621 accepted that sort of artwork, the furry side would get drowned out, and they would lose the niche market that has served them so well all this time, while picking up very few users (since there is so much competition among sites which focus on human-only porn).

K.K. said:
I never suggested branching out like that, at all.

You asked what was meant by a story section, and I answered. I never said you suggested that. The person who originally commented on it only stated it as an example of "things some people would like to have happen, but won't because it's not what this site is about" to show that you wanting human art allowed isn't the only thing that isn't happening.

Wodahseht said:
You asked what was meant by a story section, and I answered. I never said you suggested that. The person who originally commented on it only stated it as an example of "things some people would like to have happen, but won't because it's not what this site is about" to show that you wanting human art allowed isn't the only thing that isn't happening.

Ok, you all win, I'm sick of arguing about this Tauros crap. I guess there's no reason to debate something that you can't change. If someone can find a neat site that allows human & furry art, let me know (You all could have shut me up if you did that earlier)

Anyway, If I took a picture of my art, and they're Sonic based characters (drawn on pen & paper) would you remove that?

K.K. said:
Ok, you all win, I'm sick of arguing about this Tauros crap.

Anyway, If I took a picture of my art, and they're Sonic based characters (drawn on pen & paper) would you remove that?

Depends on the quality of the photo.

K.K. said:

Anyway, If I took a picture of my art, and they're Sonic based characters (drawn on pen & paper) would you remove that?

I'd recommend using a scanner if possible. Cameras don't really do justice to traditional art.

Oh so this means anything from Skyrim like Argonian, Khajiit, reptilian characters from Digimon and Pokemon and the like are now going to be banned, because they're not "furry"?

What a load of steaming bullshit.

And no, Rule34 is actually far worse of a community because people over there are primarily douchebags and are very rude.

fox_whisper85 said:
Oh so this means anything from Skyrim like Argonian, Khajiit, reptilian characters from Digimon and Pokemon and the like are now going to be banned, because they're not "furry"?

What a load of bullshit.

Furry is used in a broad sense here that includes scalies.

It basically includes anything not human or human focused (e.g., tentacles with human is borderline, a couple humans in the foreground with a cat walking in the background somewhere is probably irrelevant, etc.).

parasprite said:
Furry is used in a broad sense here that includes scalies.

It basically includes anything not human or human focused.

And yet that pic of the Pokemon with a human I posted got approved a week ago. How does that work if human-related things are so frowned upon? So Skyrim, Pokemon, Digital are fine, and humans are allowed as long as they are not the primary focus, yes?

I want to be sure that this is the case as I don't want to be royally screwed over by the administration.

fox_whisper85 said:
Oh so this means anything from Skyrim like Argonian, Khajiit, reptilian characters from Digimon and Pokemon and the like are now going to be banned, because they're not "furry"?

post #666665 What?

A) the rule is in effect since almost a year now b) "furry" as in "anthropomorphic animals", regardless of presence or absence of fur.

Also, Khajiit are literally furry, they have fur everywhere and it's even canon that the males have barbed penises.

NotMeNotYou said:
post #666665 What?

A) the rule is in effect since almost a year now b) "furry" as in "anthropomorphic animals", regardless of presence or absence of fur.

Also, Khajiit are literally furry, they have fur everywhere and it's even canon that the males have barbed penises.

Then enlighten me, how is that humans, being the taboo on this site, did my pic of Pokemon anthro x human pic get approved? That makes no sense to me. Is it because that the human isn't the main focus?

Edit: Sorry....just...yeah....I need sleep.

fox_whisper85 said:
So Skyrim, Pokemon, Digital are fine, and humans are allowed as long as they are not the primary focus, yes?

Yup, that's pretty much the gist of it.

parasprite said:
Yup, that's pretty much the gist of it.

Okay, that makes more sense, because I definitely want to include humans on occasion, obviously not focusing on them because I gotta be honest, I like anthro/furry infinitely better than human art. Thank you for validating that, the last thing I want to do is inadvertently anger the staff for messing up.

parasprite said:
I'd recommend using a scanner if possible. Cameras don't really do justice to traditional art.

True, but my scanner's broken

Lance_Armstrong said:
There are many exceptions to the humans only rule. If it's a fantasy character, robot, catgirl, character with animal ears, etc. it will be approved.

Not necessarily true. I once uploaded a photograph of Quote and Curly from Cave Story inside a snowglobe, and it was deleted because it was not furry. Of course, I only recently learned that non-furry art must be of exceptional quality (something I thought the photograph was) to be allowed; something I must take into consideration in the future when uploading a particular alien species I created. ._.

AshuraK said:
Not necessarily true. I once uploaded a photograph of Quote and Curly from Cave Story inside a snowglobe, and it was deleted because it was not furry. Of course, I only recently learned that non-furry art must be of exceptional quality (something I thought the photograph was) to be allowed; something I must take into consideration in the future when uploading a particular alien species I created. ._.

Actually that post was deleted for being irrelevant to site, which can mean more than just not furry. Photos of merchandise/customs are rarely approved nowadays, furry or otherwise.

parasprite said:
Actually that post was deleted for being irrelevant to site, which can mean more than just not furry. Photos of merchandise/customs are rarely approved nowadays, furry or otherwise.

For a brief second I thought you meant my luraxin picture was deleted, and my heart skipped a beat in terror. But then it dawned on me seconds later that you meant the Cave Story pic. :s

Too bad it was deleted; that snow globe was well made and looked awesome.

AshuraK said:
For a brief second I thought you meant my luraxin picture was deleted, and my heart skipped a beat in terror. But then it dawned on me seconds later that you meant the Cave Story pic. :s

Too bad it was deleted; that snow globe was well made and looked awesome.

Yeah it was. Not the best picture quality though (unfortunately). It didn't really do it justice.

Haha, delete all humans [if human_only]. Also what if the image has one or more signifiers that relates to furryness per the definition here? Does it then depend upon the quantity of signifiers relating? In that case text_only storys should not have the tag not_furry, but maybe images with few signifiers relating to furryness qualify as not_furry (depending on the strength of relationship). Semantics: http://www.nocleansinging.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/signifier-sign-signified.png

We don't allow stories, and text has no bearing on relevance.

Personally, I don't mind non_furry art here. In fact the more art we have the better. If you don't want to see it just blacklist or skip over it.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Hello everyone!

I wanted to clarify something that apparently has been generating some questions for our janitors.

Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant. e621 caters to decent furry art, and as such, will leave the anime and humanized furry characters for other sites that cater to humans.

These websites allow human-related content:

http://rule34.paheal.net/
http://rule34.xxx
https://danbooru.donmai.us/
http://gelbooru.com/
http://www.y-gallery.net/

I apologize for the confusion. If you have any questions, let me know!

Welcome to Derpibooru!

Derpibooru is a post where My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic to artist is post arts mlp?..

Derpibooru tags safe post art #safe here?

Furry mlp tags posts arts #furry, here?

Mon mlp oc tags post #explicit, here?

JSimesenMac said:
Welcome to Derpibooru!

Derpibooru is a post where My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic to artist is post arts mlp?..

Derpibooru tags safe post art #safe here?

Furry mlp tags posts arts #furry, here?

Mon mlp oc tags post #explicit, here?

What was the point of bumping this thread?

Duck_Hunt_Dog said:
I'm not saying I don't like furry art. I'm just saying I SOMETIMES want to see something besides furry art on THIS SPECIFIC SITE. Also, you didn't define what they meant by "special"

Agreed.

nice necro

Some days I wish these got automatically locked after a few years.