Hello everyone!

I wanted to clarify something that apparently has been generating some questions for our janitors.

Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant. e621 caters to decent furry art, and as such, will leave the anime and humanized furry characters for other sites that cater to humans.

These websites allow human-related content:

http://rule34.paheal.net/
http://rule34.xxx
https://danbooru.donmai.us/
http://gelbooru.com/
http://www.y-gallery.net/

I apologize for the confusion. If you have any questions, let me know!

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant.

This includes both humanized MLP and characters from Equestria Girls.

Damn. But didn't it say somewhere that the site is for high-quality art, regardless of content? :/

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
Damn. But didn't it say somewhere that the site is for high-quality art, regardless of content? :/

Current avoid posting rules state the following:

Content that is not furry or furry-related. We may still approve it if it's high quality or "special" in some way, but it's still more likely to be deleted than approved.

Art featuring humans AND furries is still good, though, right?

LumenSageAlexander said:
Art featuring humans AND furries is still good, though, right?

Can't see why it wouldn't be.

I'm kind of glad this rule is being reinstated. Usually I go to e621 to find some good furry art, I could always go to another site like deviant art or something if i really wanted to see drawings of humans or something.

RIP not_furry

It's currently at 5918 posts, most of the increase in number over the last month is probably myself (and other people) going through older posts. I can imagine that that number will stay under 6000 for a long time.

While I'm here, I'd like to give a shout out to the zero_pictured tag. It's definitely an older tag, but it's rarely used now. It looks to be a useful tag for hiding those leftover posts that always inevitably pop up when you try to clean up something like speciestags:0 or the number of posts that still don't have a gender tag.

About time. I'm okay with this.

Although now I wonder: will human x feral bestiality still be allowed? That one has always been walking the line even under the previous rules, so pleading in favor of it could be somewhat hypocritical considering I'm fine with humanized MLP being gone, but I just kinda like having it here. Eheh.

By the way, it's a bit funny to suddenly hear an official statement saying that "E621 caters to decent furry art alone", as if asking the same thing to a staff member last month wouldn't have gotten you a firm "You silly misinformed person! E621 isn't a furry image board but a place for nice art in general!". Which I always found a rather weird thing to say when over 95% of your content contains furries bumping each other up every possible orifice.

Of course I understand rules are subject to change, but this comes across like a bit of a 180, guys. Though I suppose that's partly because I'm not involved in any behind-the-scenes site discussion, which makes this change in attitude appear much more sudden to me. Must be it. :|

Jugofthat said:
About time. I'm okay with this.

Although now I wonder: will human x feral bestiality still be allowed? That one has always been walking the line even under the previous rules, so pleading for it could be somewhat hypocritical considering I'm fine with humanized MLP being gone, but I just kinda like having it here.

Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant.

It's fine.

By the way, it's a bit funny to suddenly hear an official statement saying that "E621 caters to decent furry art alone", as if asking the same thing to a staff member last month wouldn't have gotten you a firm "You silly misinformed person! E621 isn't a furry image board but a place for nice art in general!". Which I always found a rather weird thing to say when over 95% of your content contains furries bumping each other up every possible orifice.

Of course I understand rules are subject to change, but this comes across like a bit of a 180, guys. Though I suppose that's partly because I'm not involved in any behind-the-scenes site discussion, which makes this change in attitude appear much more sudden to me. Must be it. :|

It's a policy that's been pretty informal for a long time. It's also something they can point to when someone complains about something being not furry. I don't know if there will be exceptions to the rules, but there are probably still going to be posts that will still get through because of their quality (or notability). I recently came across post #572790 (edit: removed) and I can't help but wonder what will happen to it, but under strict version of this policy it would probably get removed.

It's a policy that's been pretty informal for a long time. It's also something they can point to when someone complains about something being not furry.

True, except that those complaining people should now be in the right if we're following this supposedly new-and-improved policy. Or well, unless the art happens to be spectacularly good, I guess.

Also, I did notice feral being in there, just wondering if a picture that's for example 50% feral and 50% TEH FORBIDDEN ONE (human) would still be feral enough to consider it the focal point. ;)

Just don't remove not-furry pages of furry comics again guys.

Also, just to be clear, are you considering animal_ears furry? Furrypickle said here that

I always saw it as
...
So, stuff like human-except-for-random-animal-ears would only get humanoid but is obviously still considered to be furry.

but I'm not sure whether it's just his opinion or official ruling.

How about another clarification. Is this for new posts or existing posts? Is this the same policy as before just more strictly enforced, or will there be a mass deletion of already approved posts?

Granberia said:
Just don't remove not-furry pages of furry comics again guys.

What instance(s) was that?

Personally I think if it's not yet in a pool, then that kind of thing's fine [there's often little indicator that there are other posts involved], but I agree a pool should probably be either approved or deleted as a unit. I'm guessing admins don't currently have such a feature available to them.

Lance_Armstrong said:
or will there be a mass deletion of already approved posts?

Hope not.

Durandal said:
Can't see why it wouldn't be.

Yes, those are still okay.

Jugofthat said:
Although now I wonder: will human x feral bestiality still be allowed?

Also still okay.

Jugofthat said:
By the way, it's a bit funny to suddenly hear an official statement saying that "E621 caters to decent furry art alone", as if asking the same thing to a staff member last month wouldn't have gotten you a firm "You silly misinformed person! E621 isn't a furry image board but a place for nice art in general!". Which I always found a rather weird thing to say when over 95% of your content contains furries bumping each other up every possible orifice.

Of course I understand rules are subject to change, but this comes across like a bit of a 180, guys. Though I suppose that's partly because I'm not involved in any behind-the-scenes site discussion, which makes this change in attitude appear much more sudden to me. Must be it. :|

Personally I've always said that our focus is furry and furry related stuff, this just makes a fully official ruling because the real rules never said anything about that, which led to confusion for a lot of users.

Granberia said:
Just don't remove not-furry pages of furry comics again guys.

Also, just to be clear, are you considering animal_ears furry? Furrypickle said here that
but I'm not sure whether it's just his opinion or official ruling.

We do either keep the entire comic, or nothing at all, so if it has something relevant to us it will stay, if we still fuck this up throw us a dmail and we'll fix it.

Also, animal ears (or even a tail) count as furry.

Lance_Armstrong said:
How about another clarification. Is this for new posts or existing posts? Is this the same policy as before just more strictly enforced, or will there be a mass deletion of already approved posts?

We're not going to delete old content, this is just from this point (or rather since a couple weeks ago) moving forward.

I've been wondering what the stance on humanoid fantasy species with little to no clear furry features (wings aside) is.

I'm talking about stuff like ogres, orcs, goblins, demons, imps and angels.

Circeus said:
I've been wondering what the stance on humanoid fantasy species with little to no clear furry features (wings aside) is.

I'm talking about stuff like ogres, orcs, goblins, demons, imps and angels.

If you see them, they are usually just humanoid. If there is nothing furry around, it's probably not_furry

Circeus said:
I'm talking about stuff like ogres, orcs, goblins, demons, imps and angels.

Do robots (decidedly not furry) make the cut?

Circeus said:
I've been wondering what the stance on humanoid fantasy species with little to no clear furry features (wings aside) is.

I'm talking about stuff like ogres, orcs, goblins, demons, imps and angels.

I assume if it is a species found in CoC then its cool. Except non-furry pics.

And I JUST Posted an image of Nunnally from Code Geass! DAMNIT! Why doesn't this site give human art a chance?! It's not like art containing JUST Humans is a BAD thing!

waverun said:
And I JUST Posted an image of Nunnally from Code Geass! DAMNIT! Why doesn't this site give human art a chance?! It's not like art containing JUST Humans is a BAD thing!

There are plenty of other art galleries for hosting it, but I suppose a booru is needed for anonymous uploads. Anybody know of a human(oid) booru site?

Furrin_Gok said:
There are plenty of other art galleries for hosting it, but I suppose a booru is needed for anonymous uploads. Anybody know of a human(oid) booru site?

http://rule34.paheal.net/

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
http://rule34.paheal.net/

This is a perfect opportunity for me to bring this up:

To EDF, Toni, e621/bad dragon in general, and whoever else is involved with web design,

I want to formally thank you considerably for not choosing to use obnoxious animated ads all over the page that have bouncing breasts, weirdly shaped humanoid penises, and 20+ page redirects that try to convince me to download Clash of Clans.

Yours truly,
-Parasprite

Indeed.

Also, Paheal could be a bit limiting in that it only allows rule 34.

Jugofthat said:
Indeed.

Also, Paheal could be a bit limiting in that it only allows rule 34.

http://rule34.xxx allows every porn thing, not just r34 stuff.

Ah, yeah, that one should do nicely.

There's also Danbooru and Gelbooru. Both are mainly for anime and hentai art, so those are a perfect place for Code Geass pics, etc. No furry art allowed on either though, except for animal_ears. Which they don't consider furry.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
http://rule34.paheal.net/

I... don't like that site. They refuse to accept advanced tagging on their images, making it difficult to find a particular scenario type.

Genjar said:
There's also Danbooru and Gelbooru. Both are mainly for anime and hentai art, so those are a perfect place for Code Geass pics, etc. No furry art allowed on either though, except for animal_ears. Which they don't consider furry.

Hmm... Well, at least people who seek images upon those sites will be able to. Now I wonder if there's a google function to search two of the sites at once for the artwork a person wants between both Furry and Humanesque artwork.

Genjar said:
There's also Danbooru and Gelbooru. Both are mainly for anime and hentai art, so those are a perfect place for Code Geass pics, etc. No furry art allowed on either though, except for animal_ears. Which they don't consider furry.

Actually, Gelbooru allows furry art. It's just Danbooru that doesn't. http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=furry

JoeX said:
Actually, Gelbooru allows furry art. It's just Danbooru that doesn't. http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=furry

Oh, hey, you're right. Their rule set is difficult to find, but once I found it (google helped), there is nothing against furry artwork.

Furrin_Gok said:
Oh, hey, you're right. Their rule set is difficult to find, but once I found it (google helped), there is nothing against furry artwork.

Yeah, their furry selection is pretty good.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
http://rule34.paheal.net/

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1497853

:P

So, what's the stand for humanoid now? for example if the focus of an Elf and a Orc. By concept it wouldn't be furry, but neither human :S

NoctemWerewolf said:
So, what's the stand for humanoid now? for example if the focus of an Elf and a Orc. By concept it wouldn't be furry, but neither human :S

Pretty much the same as before. Humanoid was only really just tolerated, but the focus has almost always been on furry art (anthro/feral). This is really just a formal notice for something they've pretty much already been doing.

parasprite said:
Pretty much the same as before. Humanoid was only really just tolerated, but the focus has almost always been on furry art (anthro/feral). This is really just a formal notice for something they've pretty much already been doing.

Kinda. We tolerated human-only art if it was well done, but now we are firmly saying no. As with all furry art: if we give an inch, they will take a mile. We are defining something that wasn't clear before.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
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EDFDarkAngel1 said:
http://rule34.paheal.net/[/quote]

I prefer https://rule34.xxx tbh with you

Don't go around mass deleting a bunch of stuff, please.

It'll just cause more problems than fixes.

Dominion said:
Don't go around mass deleting a bunch of stuff, please.

It'll just cause more problems than fixes.

Like another admin already answered earlier in the thread we won't be deleting old content for this. It is mostly about any new content from now on. So don't worry.

Now all we need is to get rid of feral stuff like MLP and stuff.
Strictly Furry, not real animals.

also now my profile will never make sense due to this rule.

ShaggySnacks said:
Now all we need is to get rid of feral stuff like MLP and stuff.
Strictly Furry, not real animals.

also now my profile will never make sense due to this rule.

If your that bothered by it, add these to your blacklist:

feral

my_little_pony

-anthro

The first two blocks anything tagged feral and any MLP stuff, the third blocks everything that isn't tagged anthro.

Unless you were being sarcastic... then I'd suggest swapping the hyphens around just because.

parasprite said:
If your that bothered by it, add these to your blacklist:

feral

my_little_pony

-anthro

The first two blocks anything tagged feral and any MLP stuff, the third blocks everything that isn't tagged anthro.

Unless you were being sarcastic... then I'd suggest swapping the hyphens around just because.

I wish I could say the same thing about humans.

ShaggySnacks said:
I wish I could say the same thing about humans.

You can easily add "humans" onto another line of the blacklist. It is not a complicated matter.

Furrin_Gok said:
You can easily add "humans" onto another line of the blacklist. It is not a complicated matter.

then why is this rule needed

ShaggySnacks said:
then why is this rule needed

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
e621 caters to decent furry art, and as such, will leave the anime and humanized furry characters for other sites that cater to humans.

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
Damn. But didn't it say somewhere that the site is for high-quality art, regardless of content? :/

Furrin_Gok said:
I... don't like that site. They refuse to accept advanced tagging on their images, making it difficult to find a particular scenario type.
Hmm... Well, at least people who seek images upon those sites will be able to. Now I wonder if there's a google function to search two of the sites at once for the artwork a person wants between both Furry and Humanesque artwork.

This.

What about transformation comics? You aren't going to insist on removing the first pages of them?

Furrin_Gok said:
You can easily add "humans" onto another line of the blacklist. It is not a complicated matter.

[rant]Seriously, fuck you, admins. First, you got rid of specific gun tags instead of leaving the issue to gun nerds and not worrying about it. Every fucking new rule you institute sucks. And no, furrybooru does not reliably crosspost all the art I like before it's taken down from here (and I'm not talking about paysite content). And no, this is not because of the removal of some of my posts; I am not opposed to that, I am opposed to a crackdown and you making a big deal about it.[/rant]

Serious question: was anyone complaining about this before you instituted this rule? Is there evidence the userbase actually gives a shit? It's not like there's a bunch of Tom Preston Samus drawings being spamposted here. Like others said, you know damn well that this is the only site with such detailed, consistent tagging (not that I'm knocking Gelbooru).

DSR1337 said:
This.

What about transformation comics? You aren't going to insist on removing the first pages of them?

https://e621.net/forum/show/146158?page=1#post-146198

As I said there, we're not getting rid of single pages of a comic, we either keep all or none.
(Except blank filler pages, fuck blank filler pages)

DSR1337 said:
[rant]Seriously, fuck you, admins. First, you got rid of specific gun tags instead of leaving the issue to gun nerds and not worrying about it. Every fucking new rule you institute sucks. And no, furrybooru does not reliably crosspost all the art I like before it's taken down from here (and I'm not talking about paysite content). And no, this is not because of the removal of some of my posts; I am not opposed to that, I am opposed to a crackdown and you making a big deal about it.[/rant]

Serious question: was anyone complaining about this before you instituted this rule? Is there evidence the userbase actually gives a shit? It's not like there's a bunch of Tom Preston Samus drawings being spamposted here. Like others said, you know damn well that this is the only site with such detailed, consistent tagging (not that I'm knocking Gelbooru).

This rule has been enforced for years by a huge chunk of the administration, it was only a couple of people who were more lenient on the matter, which resulted in numerous complaints and questions why the human only stuff of some people got removed and that of others kept.
So we fixed the issue and removed the gray area as it simply got tiresome that uploaders had to play admin roulette who got to it first, and then subsequently had to deal with inconsistent admin ruling.

DSR1337 said:
This.

Sorry about that. I can't really comment on how other people run their sites.

What about transformation comics? You aren't going to insist on removing the first pages of them?

https://e621.net/forum/show/147880.

[rant]Seriously, fuck you, admins. First, you got rid of specific gun tags instead of leaving the issue to gun nerds and not worrying about it.

The gun tags were changed, as has been heavily discussed prior, because we want people who AREN'T gun nerds to be able to find posts with them. Not everyone knows how many specific models of the AK-47 there are.

Every fucking new rule you institute sucks.

I apologize if you disagree with the direction of my administration. I, along with the other admins, review all of the rules before we put them in place. If we want to change something, we consider all of the evidence and use our experience to determine the potential issues. If we end up being wrong, we apologize and fix it. However, this post was not about a "rule". e621 has always been for decent furry art, that never changed, and it never will.

And no, furrybooru does not reliably crosspost all the art I like before it's taken down from here (and I'm not talking about paysite content). And no, this is not because of the removal of some of my posts; I am not opposed to that, I am opposed to a crackdown and you making a big deal about it.[/rant]

I... must have missed where furrybooru came into this conversation? I think all the others were mentioned. I'm sorry if another site's policies anger you; honestly, it seems that you don't like how anyone does anything. As for the "big deal", I'm not quite sure how that is. This is a (as of now) 2 page thread that is neither a hot topic, nor a prolific one. It seems to be a decent notification thread, which is why I created it.

Serious question: was anyone complaining about this before you instituted this rule? Is there evidence the userbase actually gives a shit? It's not like there's a bunch of Tom Preston Samus drawings being spamposted here. Like others said, you know damn well that this is the only site with such detailed, consistent tagging (not that I'm knocking Gelbooru).

I generally don't get involved with site policy unless it becomes a problem. This site is run so well by its users (you guys!) and the administration team, that I don't need to micro-manage everything and try to dream up policies just to mess with its users. Pretty much everything I've done on this site was done because it was a problem of varying degrees. I will continue to work with the users and my admin team every day to make sure this site becomes even better than it is today.

The userbase does care about e621's tagging policy. I am thankful everyday I look up someone's profiles and see tag edits galore. When I see a member-status user fighting for or against a tag because of how strongly they feel about it, I smile. It means that people generally care about how e621 works, and they fight to make sure it continues working. This site's excellent tagging structure is BECAUSE users give a shit.

All things considered, this has been a positive move for the site and its people.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:Not everyone knows how many specific models of the AK-47 there are.

Couldn't an alias be used in that case?

Why are we talking about guns here?

mrnotsosafeforwork said:
Couldn't an alias be used in that case?

Well, I think you meant alias different models of AK to a general AK tag, but I really think AK-47 should be aliased to assault_rifle, 1911 to handgun, and so forth. It's accurate (heh), and, look... I'm a gun nerd. But if you really, really need to see an M16, there aren't even 200 images tagged with assault_rifle! It's really not that hard to sort through them!

mrnotsosafeforwork said:
Couldn't an alias be used in that case?

I'll let you decide this a bit. With the tag search you can see how much has been tagged with this. Some guns are super easy to pick out of it (m16) some are more difficult because you need to know the name (thompson_submachine_gun) but there are thousands of types of guns, and a ton of these have only 1 post tagged with it. Click a few of these to get an idea of how much would need to be aliased:

• *m1*
• *m2*
• *m3*
• *m4*
• *m6*
• *m7*
• *m8*
• *m9*
• and so on...

Since there is a chance that some of these are actually the artist or the name of a robot in the picture or something (that isn't tagged as artist/character) these would all need to be gone through manually and verified one at a time. It's a huge project to just make sure they are all tagged as gun, I can't imagine trying to make aliases for all of them.

A few common guns being implicated/aliased to machine_gun might not be a bad idea. For example, ak-47 actually has 67 posts, 15 of which don't have the gun tag (although 5 of those at least have the weapon tag). It would benefit us to implicate/alias them so they all get tagged properly in the end, but if an implication is chosen it would encourage obscure gun tags, which we are trying to avoid due to the fact that keeping track of them is a massive PITA.

parasprite said:
A few common guns being implicated/aliased to machine_gun might not be a bad idea. For example, ak-47

I'm hoping you didn't mean to say that the AK is a machine gun...

Durandal said:
I'm hoping you didn't mean to say that the AK is a machine gun...

I actually meant to write machine_gun/gun/etc. (they were separate paragraphs that I combined), but I would probably have mistaken that one either way. My gun experience isn't much beyond N64 Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, which is to say that it doesn't go very far.

parasprite said:
My gun experience isn't much beyond N64 Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, which is to say that it doesn't go very far.

I... I thought we could be friends, Parasprite.

But seriously, I think this is worthy of a separate forum thread. I'm on the fence about the most iconic weapons like the M16 and AK having their tags aliased away, but...

Durandal said:
I... I thought we could be friends, Parasprite.

But seriously, I think this is worthy of a separate forum thread. I'm on the fence about the most iconic weapons like the M16 and AK having their tags aliased away, but...

You can still be my waifu Durandal-kan <3

I can do a writeup thread later today, I just need a list of notable tags that would be aliased/implicated. For all practical purposes, most with less than 5 posts probably isn't worth the bother, but a few might be an exception. Ignoring implications for the most part (unless they are in the name) this is what I've already written up (sorry if it's a bit out-of-order):

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Hello everyone!

I wanted to clarify something that apparently has been generating some questions for our janitors.

Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant. e621 caters to decent furry art, and as such, will leave the anime and humanized furry characters for other sites that cater to humans.

I apologize for the confusion. If you have any questions, let me know!

Any sugestions on sites where you can find art like this with humans?

yttyr14 said:
Any sugestions on sites where you can find art like this with humans?

http://rule34.paheal.net/
http://rule34.xxx/
http://www.gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list
https://danbooru.donmai.us/

Lance_Armstrong said:
http://rule34.paheal.net/
http://rule34.xxx/
http://www.gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list
https://danbooru.donmai.us/

Thank you

EDFDarkAngel1 said:

The userbase does care about e621's tagging policy. I am thankful everyday I look up someone's profiles and see tag edits galore. When I see a member-status user fighting for or against a tag because of how strongly they feel about it, I smile. It means that people generally care about how e621 works, and they fight to make sure it continues working. This site's excellent tagging structure is BECAUSE users give a shit.

All things considered, this has been a positive move for the site and its people.

I haven't been on this site longer than a month, and I've already uploaded 100 posts and done 380+tag edits. And I'm not stopping anytime soon either.

I've actually been feeding off of this website for a couple of years prior to making my account. I finally chose to make one because I was certain I could contribute to the best of my ability in my own way, with will commonly center around filling in what I feel people miss, and adding more to "less popular" tags.

And based on where I'm hovering around both the Tag Updates and Post Uploads, I'm off to a good start.

Who knows? I may get promoted sooner than I think. But I have to earn it.

Mittsies said:
This includes both humanized MLP and characters from Equestria Girls.

That being said...

post #512889

...does this stay or go?

LittleBaconBits said:
That being said...

post #512889

...does this stay or go?

It's been approved so I doubt they will delete it. They rarely delete content once it's approved, and almost all cases are related to takedowns or duplicate posts.

LittleBaconBits said:
That being said...

post #512889

...does this stay or go?

furrypickle said:
Like another admin already answered earlier in the thread we won't be deleting old content for this. It is mostly about any new content from now on. So don't worry.

Is this enough?

Just_Another_Dragon said:
Is this enough?

6 months ago was prior to the change, so yeah. It's fine to stay.

I recently uploaded a small collection of Metroid images with Samus Aran and Ridley.

Samus is human, and Ridley is a space pirate/alien/dragon/scalie.

I know those pictures are acceptable, based on the discussion I read on how human with animal posts are acceptable.

So just a quick question. I was reading the threads but didn't see a clear answer that I could pin down.

Human characters who have minimal "furry" features (animal ears and an animal tail and/or horns) would they be considered too human? As it stands right now I am trying to keep content of this type that I post categorized as "human" with "animal ears" since the characters generally don't have animal like facial features or fur.

Pasiphaë said:
So just a quick question. I was reading the threads but didn't see a clear answer that I could pin down.

Human characters who have minimal "furry" features (animal ears and an animal tail and/or horns) would they be considered too human? As it stands right now I am trying to keep content of this type that I post categorized as "human" with "animal ears" since the characters generally don't have animal like facial features or fur.

From what I understand, animal ears are considered to be furry for posting purposes.

As for tagging them, they are in limbo at the moment for a couple reasons:

1. Human, humanoid, and the ears tags haven't really been well-defined until recently, but things aren't finalized yet.
2. Lately, most users seem to be leaning towards tagging them as humanoid but it isn't official yet. I happen to remember an admin ruling about not tagging them as human but I'm not able to find it so I could be wrong. However, from what I've seen it's generally discouraged to tag them as human since they aren't pure human (probably the only tag we actually do this with).
3. Whether or not you tag something like cat ears with cat is currently up for debate (last ruling I believe was to not do it). The trend seems to be to not tag them with the species, but as far as I know it isn't official. Seeing as cat ears doesn't already imply cat I would avoid tagging them with it anyways. The admins can always bulk tag them at the click of a button when an implication is made anyways so you're better off not tagging that to avoid needing a tagging project to remove them later on.

Tldr: Animal_ears = okay to post. They are also likely to be humanoid in the near future. Don't tag them as human or with the species.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
6 months ago was prior to the change, so yeah. It's fine to stay.

I think he was asking, for future art, is a human wearing the outfit of a non-human character, but without the kemonomimi bits, will it stay or get deleted?

Pasiphaë said:
So just a quick question. I was reading the threads but didn't see a clear answer that I could pin down.

Human characters who have minimal "furry" features (animal ears and an animal tail and/or horns) would they be considered too human? As it stands right now I am trying to keep content of this type that I post categorized as "human" with "animal ears" since the characters generally don't have animal like facial features or fur.

They need to get around to removing the alias from kemonomimi so that we can start tagging that. Kemonomimi is a Japanese term that technically translates to "Animal ears," yes, but it's a term used to denote "Humans" with animal features, whether or not the ears are included. A human with a dog tail, for example, would qualify as a Dog Kemonomimi. In English, there is no one word to be used for that, even our literal translation of the word is two words long, and a lot of people have adopted the word, similarly to how we adopted the Spanish words, Taco, Enchilada, Tostada, etcetera. (No, etcetera is not Spanish, that one's Latin. That's another language we've adopted words from!)

Furrin_Gok said:
similarly to how we adopted the Spanish words, Taco, Enchilada, Tostada, etcetera. (No, etcetera is not Spanish, that one's Latin. That's another language we've adopted words from!)

The English language is ~60% Romance (half French, half Latin), ~25% Germanic, ~5% Greek, and ~10% everything else. Science and technical terms are almost entirely Latin/Greek (somewhere in the realm of 90-95% iirc).

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parasprite said:
From what I understand, animal ears are considered to be furry for posting purposes.

As for tagging them, they are in limbo at the moment for a couple reasons:

1. Human, humanoid, and the ears tags haven't really been well-defined until recently, but things aren't finalized yet.
2. Lately, most users seem to be leaning towards tagging them as humanoid but it isn't official yet. I happen to remember an admin ruling about not tagging them as human but I'm not able to find it so I could be wrong. However, from what I've seen it's generally discouraged to tag them as human since they aren't pure human (probably the only tag we actually do this with).
3. Whether or not you tag something like cat ears with cat is currently up for debate (last ruling I believe was to not do it). The trend seems to be to not tag them with the species, but as far as I know it isn't official. Seeing as cat ears doesn't already imply cat I would avoid tagging them with it anyways. The admins can always bulk tag them at the click of a button when an implication is made anyways so you're better off not tagging that to avoid needing a tagging project to remove them later on.

Tldr: Animal_ears = okay to post. They are also likely to be humanoid in the near future. Don't tag them as human or with the species.

Wow...so okay. I hope my posts don't cause anyone any undue difficulties. So in the future these types of posts should be labeled in what way then? animal_ears is okay, but don't also tag with human or the animal species (such as feline or canine )? So instead tag them with humanoid but no species? And just use the relevant animal ear tag? such as cat ears or fox ears ?

Pasiphaë said:
Wow...so okay. I hope my posts don't cause anyone any undue difficulties. So in the future these types of posts should be labeled in what way then? animal_ears is okay, but don't also tag with human or the animal species (such as feline or canine )? So instead tag them with humanoid but no species? And just use the relevant animal ear tag? such as cat ears or fox ears ?

Don't worry, the animal ears are a headache for everyone right now. Which is why we're currently working to make up a logical system. :)

Yup, for now the safest bet is to just tag them with (an example) fox_ears + humanoid and just leave the species blank for now (as weird as it looks).

I can't speak for the admins, but these tags are likely to see some minor changes sometime in the near future so we will finally have something under species, but they will likely try to keep whatever changes they make as transparent as possible to ensure a smooth transition.

parasprite said:
Yup, for now the safest bet is to just tag them with (an example) fox_ears + humanoid and just leave the species blank for now (as weird as it looks).

Tagging them as mammal would work. Better than no species tag at all, I suppose.

If I find a bigger version of a non-furry post from the time before the rule clarification, am I allowed to upload the bigger version?

Munkelzahn said:
If I find a bigger version of a non-furry post from the time before the rule clarification, am I allowed to upload the bigger version?

yes

post #602330
> do disembodied animal cocks make a pic "furry"?

Munkelzahn said:
post #602330
> do disembodied animal cocks make a pic "furry"?

Bestiality still counts, so I'd say yes.