Currently, all_fours is locked onto posts with quadrupeds due to the doggystyle tag being present

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The wiki for doggystyle doesn't explicitly state that it is to only be used for bipedal characters, so either all_fours should no longer be implied or the wiki should be revised. The from_behind_position wiki should also be clarified.

The definition for doggystyle irks me a lot.

- You kneel on all fours, not crouch.
- Doesn't mention the penetrative character coming from behind, which is a requirement for the tag.
- The definition of "from_behind_position" requires a penetrating character, which contradicts the wording in the wiki.

As for whether "all fours" can be used on ferals, the wiki doesn't indicate that it can't be used on quadrupeds. It's just not useful to be tagged on feral images.

Edit:
I tweaked the Wiki page to better reflect the meaning of the tag. I haven't yet added a clarification on ferals, but I assume it will be allowed. It will be difficult to prevent people from using it due to how closely it is associated with feral behaviour.

TheVileOne said:
The definition for doggystyle irks me a lot.

- You kneel on all fours, not crouch.
- Doesn't mention the penetrative character coming from behind, which is a requirement for the tag.
- The definition of "from_behind_position" requires a penetrating character, which contradicts the wording in the wiki.

As for whether "all fours" can be used on ferals, the wiki doesn't indicate that it can't be used on quadrupeds. It's just not useful to be tagged on feral images.

Edit:
I tweaked the Wiki page to better reflect the meaning of the tag. I haven't yet added a clarification on ferals, but I assume it will be allowed. It will be difficult to prevent people from using it due to how closely it is associated with feral behaviour.

The all_fours wiki currently states that the tag shouldn’t be used on feral characters, which is a very ambiguous statement since animals like wyverns are feral but bipedal, therefore deserve the tag if they are on all fours.
I don’t believe the all_fours tag should be used on quadrupeds, seeing as that is their natural state. A more appropriate method of tagging would be to only tag posts with on_hind_legs when they are on their hind legs... we don’t tag humans with on_hind_legs right? I think we should follow the same logic with quadrupedal animals as we do with bipedal animals.

If a tag isn’t useful then why have it on a post, right? There are plenty of tags that suffer the same problem. I don’t mind cleaning up the tag if that’s what it needs.

Both posts in the OP should be perching_position , not doggystyle.
I'd imagine in most other cases mounting is a more correct tag for feral-on-feral posts anyway.

Keep in mind sexual positions in general are one of the most mistagged things on the site.

yeoldenut said:
The all_fours wiki currently states that the tag shouldn’t be used on feral characters, which is a very ambiguous statement since animals like wyverns are feral but bipedal, therefore deserve the tag if they are on all fours.
I don’t believe the all_fours tag should be used on quadrupeds, seeing as that is their natural state. A more appropriate method of tagging would be to only tag posts with on_hind_legs when they are on their hind legs... we don’t tag humans with on_hind_legs right? I think we should follow the same logic with quadrupedal animals as we do with bipedal animals.

Perhaps change the wiki to say all_fours should only be tagged for non-quadruped characters, and on_hind_legs should only be for non-biped characters? That seems to be what it's trying to imply, anyway.

doggystyle could be altered to not apply when the bottom is quadrupedal (i.e. when their normal mating position is on all_fours). Use mounting or plain from_behind_position instead.

One thing that puzzles me, is if it is ok to consider it all_fours, if a character has their chest down on the ground, particularly if they have their arms behind back, for example, and in either case, is this valid in doggystyle?

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urielfrys said:
One thing that puzzles me, is if it is ok to consider it all_fours, if a character has their chest down on the ground, particularly if they have their arms behind back, for example, and in either case, is this valid in doggystyle?

post #2128273 post #2046127

Those probably should not be tagged as doggystyle since it requires character to actually be on all fours. AFAIK that is not any specific position, it should just be tagged as from_behind_position ass_up.

urielfrys said:
One thing that puzzles me, is if it is ok to consider it all_fours, if a character has their chest down on the ground, particularly if they have their arms behind back, for example, and in either case, is this valid in doggystyle?

post #2128273 post #2046127

The first resembles jockey_position, but with the ass raised. I looked around and it is similar to Flat Iron Position: https://sexpositions.club/positions/95.html

Unless we want to be pedantic about it, it should count as Jockey position IMO.

As for the other one these are the closet sex positions I could find.

Facedown Doggy:
https://sexinfo101.com/positions/doggystyle/facedown-doggy?set=rear-entry
Downward Dog:
https://sexpositions.club/positions/230.html

I agree with Pakattu though ass_up from_behind_position would fit the latter position.

Edit:

We could use the term resting_doggystyle for any posts that involve a from_behind_position where the character is resting on their front or shoulder area. I rather like that term anyways. I might start using it as a tag.