Implicating predalien → xenomorph
Link to implication

Reason:

The Predalien is a Xenomorph born from a Predator/Yautja host. It appears in not only the second AVP film, but in a number of comics and games predating it.

Maybe it should also implicate Yautja (and Hybrid, I guess?), but I don't think so. I think that sets a weird precedent with other non-human Xenomorphs. A Predalien is just as much a Yautja as any random Xenomorph you see in the movies is a human. They shouldn't be tagged with either Yautja or Hybrid, in my opinion.

Other Implications

• engineer_(alien) -> alien_(franchise)
• neomorph -> alien
• neomorph -> alien_(franchise)
• predalien -> predator_(franchise) (Or maybe there should be an Alien vs. Predator copyright tag that implicates Alien and Predator and that Predalien can be implicated to)
• prometheus_(film) -> alien_(franchise)
• trilobite_(prometheus) -> prometheus_(film)
• xenomorph_queen -> xenomorph
• yautja -> alien

Alias

• prometheus_(franchise) -> prometheus_(film)
• space_jockey -> engineer_(alien)

EDIT: The tag implication predalien -> xenomorph (forum #267385) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

Uh, gonna have to give a -1. A predalien is visually different from xenomorphs and yautja.

They're very visually distinct from yautja, yes, part of why I disagreed with that implication.

However, the Predalien is still very visibly a Xenomorph; they have the tail, the body structure, the iconic swept back head. Some people draw them even more similarly. It's not like the tag will be aliased away, anyways. If someone wants to see a Predalien they can just look up Predalien.

Besides, Xenomorphs can get a lot weirder than Predaliens while still being 100% recognizably Xenomorphs. There's a crocodile-based Xenomorph in one of the comics, and cobra-based ones as well. Should we not tag what are obviously Xenomorphs - just of a different host - as Xenomorph?

How do you propose finding the "adult" xenomorphs if things start implicating it, then? Xenomorph is the "Full grown" ultimate prey species, while the infant(?) is the Facehugger. If you want to have an umbrella tag, it should be something new, not the preexisting specific species tag.

Xenomorph is the umbrella term, though, in canon. Facehugger shouldn't imply it; there's no visual similarity between them, while there is significant visual similarity between a Predalien and a Xenomorph.

I guess we could split up the normal Xenomorph into drone and warrior tags so that there can be a broader, catch-all tag, but that's a bad idea, since there's significant visual overlap there. Both designs are inconsistent too.

I don't really get the issue. Finding a standard Xenomorph design would be pretty easy. Not only are there not even 100 Predaliens compared to the over a thousand regular Xenomorphs, but if you really care so much you can just tailor the search to get rid of them.

Opilione said:
Xenomorph is the umbrella term, though, in canon. Facehugger shouldn't imply it; there's no visual similarity between them, while there is significant visual similarity between a Predalien and a Xenomorph.

I guess we could split up the normal Xenomorph into drone and warrior tags so that there can be a broader, catch-all tag, but that's a bad idea, since there's significant visual overlap there. Both designs are inconsistent too.

I don't really get the issue. Finding a standard Xenomorph design would be pretty easy. Not only are there not even 100 Predaliens compared to the over a thousand regular Xenomorphs, but if you really care so much you can just tailor the search to get rid of them.

The problem is the concept of searching for both in the same image: Just as we keep Alolan Meowth seperate from Meowth so that users can search for alolan_meowth meowth and find images with both, people may want to search for predalien xenomorph, or for predalien -xenomorph.

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Fair enough.

The tag implication predalien -> xenomorph (forum #267385) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.