Topic: Tag Implication: abdomen -> arthropod

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Implicating abdomen → arthropod
Link to implication

Reason:

To discourage the use of multiple tags for the same thing, I suggest that the abdomen tag gets moved over to solely referring to the tagma form of abdomens, while stomach can be used when referring to the stomach. People aren't even referring to the abs with the abdomen tag, as it often depicts a gut with some fat to it, rather than the six-pack abs.

Related implications:
abdomentagmata
throaxtagmata
thoraxarthropod

Tagmata is plural for "Tagma," which means the separated body parts found on arthropods. The reason I'm suggesting tagmata as the tag is that if people type in tagme but hit A instead of E, it could cause problems.

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I understand where you are going with this (and feel free to retag them as needed), but due to "the area between the diaphragm and pelvis" (abdominal muscles/abs, abdominal pain, "stomach"/belly) being in very common usage I'd prefer not to imply it directly to any particular species as mistags are not very obvious. If we implied this I'd prefer to at least rename the tag first to make its purpose more obvious (think something like insect_abdomen I know, I know. Spiders aren't insects...).

Same with thorax, but the human-related definition is more common in medical settings (thoracic vertebrae, thoracentesis come from). The insect definition happens to be more common here, so it's probably fine to leave the tag as is. I'd still be hesitant to tag with species though since alien-like creatures that are influenced from earth arthropods don't usually get tagged with insect.

tagme isn't tagged manually very often and tagma has never been tagged on here, so this shouldn't be an issue. We could still alias it to tagmata though.

Lastly, if we want to use something like tagmata/tagma we shouldn't need to the arthropod implication on the others since we can just run that through tagmata/tagma (though the alien caveat from above still applies).

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parasprite said:
I understand where you are going with this (and feel free to retag them as needed), but due to "the area between the diaphragm and pelvis" (abdominal muscles/abs, abdominal pain, "stomach"/belly) being in very common usage I'd prefer not to imply it directly to any particular species as mistags are not very obvious. If we implied this I'd prefer to at least rename the tag first to make its purpose more obvious (think something like insect_abdomen I know, I know. Spiders aren't insects...).

Same with thorax, but the human-related definition is more common in medical settings (thoracic vertebrae, thoracentesis come from). The insect definition happens to be more common here, so it's probably fine to leave the tag as is. I'd still be hesitant to tag with species though since alien-like creatures that are influenced from earth arthropods don't usually get tagged with insect.

tagme isn't tagged manually very often and tagma has never been tagged on here, so this shouldn't be an issue. We could still alias it to tagmata though.

Lastly, if we want to use something like tagmata/tagma we shouldn't need to the arthropod implication on the others since we can just run that through tagmata/tagma (though the alien caveat from above still applies).

Alright, that all sounds fair. Clearing out abdomen and aliasing that away (Even if only to a disambiguation) should work well, with abdomen_(stomach) and insect_abdomen (I'm okay with that).

Tagmata is probably still better since you're usually going to have multiple parts of the body, and not just one. And if we have Tagmata covering all these parts, then we could just search for that rather than arthropod.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Looks like DiceLovesBeingBlown denied this in favor of approving an alias to invertebrate_abdomen

I feel invertebrate_abdomen works much better, considering it's a part of anatomy that is commonly found on many non-insects as well (see: arachnids)

Plus, the name is much less vague than just plain "abdomen". Might end up having a possible disambig for plain "abdomen" if any issues with it arrive in the future.

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
I feel invertebrate_abdomen works much better, considering it's a part of anatomy that is commonly found on many non-insects as well (see: arachnids)

Plus, the name is much less vague than just plain "abdomen". Might end up having a possible disambig for plain "abdomen" if any issues with it arrive in the future.

Yeah, I'm completely fine with this. Note above, I agreed with Parasprite's suggestion to make it something more clear.

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