nordic_sled_dog implies spitz
this turns all Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes etc. into Spitz - which is not correct.

A husky is a breed of dog.
A dalmatian is a breed of dog.
A Spitz is *not* a breed of dog.

A spitz is a "family" of dog breeds. They usually have long thick fur, pointed ears and muzzles and frequently has a tail that curls over the dog's back. They have fur suited to cold climates with a waterproof undercoat, small ears, and furry paws

Spitz-type dogs are usually hunting dogs, herding dogs and sled dogs.

Larger spitz dogs, like Akita Inu, Elkhounds and the karelian beardog, are used for big game hunting: killing moose and bears. Meanwhile smaller hunter-type dogs were used for smaller prey.

Several different Lapphunds were used to help herd reindeer.

Similarly, the Alaskan Malamute, the Canadian Eskimo dog, Greendland dogs and the Siberian Husky were all used to pull sleds.

Interestingly, the Pomeranian is also a Spitz-type dog, however, it's one that has been, much like the toy poodle, miniaturized over years of breeding.

There is a long and extensive list of Spitz-type dogs here ... Every dog that implies Nordic_sled_dog (and in turn implies 'spitz') is on that list.

So... I think that these implications are correct. :)

In other news, I have like 3 more dogs I need to own

wingedhusky said:
nordic_sled_dog implies spitz
this turns all Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes etc. into Spitz - which is not correct.

@wingedhusky As SnowWolf said: Huskies ARE spitzes. Spitz are a broad type of dog, they are not a distinct breed of dog, which is a common misconception. Some breeds even fit into multiple dog types. I suppose my point here is that dog types are a broad category of dogs based on general similarity, meant to classify dogs by common ancestor and/or physical form and/or "purpose" bred into them.

You can read up on Spitz type dogs on their wikipedia page or on sites dedicated to dog types and breeds such as the Federation Cynologique Internationale, which list Spitz and primitive type togs in group 5, and Nordic Sled Dogs fall under Spitz types

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I was thinking about the German Spitz, not the family. I don't know how I missed that, but German Wikipedia did not list Siberian Husky as a Spitz (on the article about Spitz).

My fault, sorry :)

However, I'm not sure if that is actually correct.

Huskies are listed by FCI in n°5 - Spitz and primitive types, but I would argue that this can be read as "Spitz, and (non-spitz) primitive types" - and Siberian Husky is not listed in Groups 4 and 5.

That also matches what German Wikipedia tells.

Edit: The German version of the n°5 nomenclature seems to reinforce this interpretation. Mathematically speaking, n°5 nomenclature would be a set of {Spitz, primitive types}. Since Siberian Husky is listed in Group 1, and only Group 4 and 5 actually list "Spitz" in the name, I'm now profoundly confused as to whether Siberian Huskies would actually qualify as "Spitz"

Since nordic sledge dog already is a separate group, I would argue that "nordic_sledge_dog" cannot imply "spitz" because those are separate groups.

You could even discern between European Spitz and Asian Spitz, and infer "Spitz" for both - but I think that it is much harder to argue that the same would hold true for Siberian Husky and nordic sledge dogs.

wingedhusky said:
Since nordic sledge dog already is a separate group, I would argue that "nordic_sledge_dog" cannot imply "spitz" because those are separate groups.

You could even discern between European Spitz and Asian Spitz, and infer "Spitz" for both - but I think that it is much harder to argue that the same would hold true for Siberian Husky and nordic sledge dogs.

Most other sites consider nordic sed dogs as spitz types, referring to them as the northern breed group of spitzes as well:

The primitive dogs are, in fact, separated from spitzes here, under primitive_dog. However, nordic hunting dogs do NOT fall under that. They are not the "primitive" type, they are considered spitz types, just a specific specialized spitz