so, i was seeing more and more "humanoid" characters, specifically "undead" and i saw that, as my removed character pic was removed but was clearly undead, hence it was marked as one, was removed cuz was "irrelevant to the site (human only)" tag, it was not, it was taged as human but undead also, wich its annoy me cuz was even on the oic as "the undead" but was tagged as "human", just bcuz that tag my upload got removed?

also my other gif was removed as it was "clearly human" it certanly it is not , i cant say humans has a prehencile penis at all, that would make them humanoid, right?

>the only pic im annoyed with is my "undead" character that was removed cuz it has no tags like "humanoid" and only human.
its a lot of time and i dont really "fight" agains mods, if their decision are as it, i obey them.
but im seeing monstergirls and humanoids as natural and my work was removed

there is also elves, human like creatures, undead also, so why my pic got removed?

First of all, never rely your information on past approvals! There are guideline changes over time, accidents and other things which can make earlier post accepted and your identical post denied. Always reflect on currently in use guidelines!!!

Undeads are one of the things that were effected by the skin color addition to guidelines couple years ago, before this undeads were pretty much always accepted because they weren't pure humans anymore. However now as they are essentially just not-living humans and only visual difference to regular human with majority are skin color change, which is now irrelevant information, they are deleted as irrelevant human content.

If you have specific post IDs that you feel like are going againts the guidelines, please feel free to provide them and I or other staff can take a look at them and explain or delete them.

Elves have clear differenciation to regular humans in form of non-humanoid ears. However there are also stuff like pony posts which have been deleted as irrelevant thanks to characters head not being visible and them using human bodies, thus no visible information to differenciate them from humans were present.

Mairo said:
First of all, never rely your information on past approvals! There are guideline changes over time, accidents and other things which can make earlier post accepted and your identical post denied. Always reflect on currently in use guidelines!!!

Undeads are one of the things that were effected by the skin color addition to guidelines couple years ago, before this undeads were pretty much always accepted because they weren't pure humans anymore. However now as they are essentially just not-living humans and only visual difference to regular human with majority are skin color change, which is now irrelevant information, they are deleted as irrelevant human content.

If you have specific post IDs that you feel like are going againts the guidelines, please feel free to provide them and I or other staff can take a look at them and explain or delete them.

Elves have clear differenciation to regular humans in form of non-humanoid ears. However there are also stuff like pony posts which have been deleted as irrelevant thanks to characters head not being visible and them using human bodies, thus no visible information to differenciate them from humans were present.

so, as this logic is aplied to any vampire infected human, does them also affect the tags?
meaning, undeads are still as they where , like humans, now they are undead humans still, so they are still humans, so vampire infected humans are still humans?

well, i sure need to explain my deleted post(s)

>both arent human related yet they where deleted because of "human only (irrelevenant to site)"
>the "undead" has purple skin, white pupils, even she can (and is on the pic) lay eggs
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2889470
(got picked by rule34)

>the gif is a long humanoid penis, opening its erm… urethra(?), moving like a snake.
(this i dindt posted elsewhere but here)

https://e621.net/post/deleted_index?user_id=297560
(if you can see them from here, unless i need to send you directly them)

btw, im talking bout undead like them :

post #1849022 post #1439883 post #1545171

i get that some of them can have horsecocks, parasytes, even have other body parts attached to make them whole again,
but i see my pic, and then i see them, i dont see how my work was deleted and all these are good to go.

thanks for taking your time to hear , of course a rant, me out,
i dont mind them being deleted as they are irrelevant to the site,
(just to point out there is a squigly only pic, without leviathan (the parasyte) still waiting for aproval as for today)
is just i see similar works even get auto aproved.

hope this dont cause any burden or just deviate from the actual form of forum posts

HenkeiUsagi said:
well, i sure need to explain my deleted post(s)

>both arent human related yet they where deleted because of "human only (irrelevenant to site)"
>the "undead" has purple skin, white pupils, even she can (and is on the pic) lay eggs
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2889470
(got picked by rule34)

Well, I made a post going through everything then, just as I went to post it, my phone turned itself off.. So, trying again, on my pc..

The criteria for saying whether a post is human or not doesn't include colour or any text on the image. Also, if you have another image of the same character, where they clearly aren't human, it doesn't matter. Each image is judged individually and on it's own content. The only exception is when an image is part of a comic/set, though it can still be deleted if the majority of the set is human only.

So for the rule34 image you linked, with colour being discounted, if you made their skin colour more like a living human, then it'd just be an intersexed human. I'm not sure if the "egg laying" thing would count but I'm guessing not, as the character still looks human, even if they're doing something humans generally can't.

Adding elf ears, a tail, or claws, essentially anything that humans don't have, would then alter it to no longer be human, and therefore be acceptable.

HenkeiUsagi said:
>the gif is a long humanoid penis, opening its erm… urethra(?), moving like a snake.
(this i dindt posted elsewhere but here)

Obviously I can't really see the post, with it being deleted, but I'd imagine it's similar to what I said earlier, that it's more on what the character looks like, rather than what they're doing.

HenkeiUsagi said:
btw, im talking bout undead like them :

post #1849022 post #1439883 post #1545171

The first one, the girl with purple hair has elf ears, so isn't human.

The second I would say could easily be a human with make-up. At first I thought the white bit at he bottom could be a tail, but I think it's just her left hand

And the third I'd say was definitely human as well. The other images for that character show her having more claws for hands, or a bony snake thing coming out of her head, but that particular one definitely looks human, unless I'm missing something.

HenkeiUsagi said:
i get that some of them can have horsecocks, parasytes, even have other body parts attached to make them whole again,
but i see my pic, and then i see them, i dont see how my work was deleted and all these are good to go.

Just wanted to clarify here, it's not so much making them whole, as making them not human. Humans have human anatomy, with two arms, two legs, two eyes, a nose and a mouth. Adding a horse dick would make it not a standard human, and more of a mix of species, therefore not a standard human.

Things that don't count would be a larger penis, different skin colour, or big bold text in bright colours proclaiming, "this is not a human" with arrows pointing to the character.

As far as why they haven't been deleted, maybe the approver was having an off day, or felt it just scraped the border of what should be accepted, and nobody's mentioned those images since.

Admins, Janitors, and all the other staff make mistakes too. And when you look at how many images get uploaded here daily, they do a really good job of keeping on top of them. I'd say a few mistakes here and there are fine.

HenkeiUsagi said:
thanks for taking your time to hear , of course a rant, me out,
i dont mind them being deleted as they are irrelevant to the site,
(just to point out there is a squigly only pic, without leviathan (the parasyte) still waiting for aproval as for today)
is just i see similar works even get auto aproved.

hope this dont cause any burden or just deviate from the actual form of forum posts

I'd say it's perfectly fine to make posts like this. There's a big difference between:
"Why was my f-ing post f-ing deleted?!?? I demand the admins restore it immediately!!1!"

And:
"I just realised one of my posts was deleted and I'm a bit confused as it looks similar to others that haven't been. Could someone please tell me what was wrong with it, so I can avoid doing it again. Also, could you say why these similar images were allowed, thanks very much."

As you can imagine, there's a few similar to the first post, which don't get many replies and are often quickly locked and ignored. Posts like this are much more welcome. You might not get too many replies, as there's a lot of "why was my post deleted" threads, but so long as you're civil and don't post anything against site rules, you can post most things here and be fine.

Pupslut said:
lotsa things, good things

so yeah i get that, even just "tag what you see"

i mean, im totaly fine with it, no biggie, im just seeing much of "undead" characters that get same as my draw, squigly mostly, but she has pass cuz she has "leviathan" a parasyte creature,

skelletons even from humans has a pass too?
that pic i linked, between shantae and now deleted squigly one, is "Catrina" , mexican folclore being that is undead but is from a human.

now to the main topic of the undead :
> so vampires, zombies / undead, skeletons are just affections, any being can become one, right?
so this means they arent monster girls and such, they are human and are irrelevant to the site.

basically any being that has tail and ears are good to go

thanks for taking your time as well~
i know its some "here and there" how this page works, "tag what you see" too
so yeah i seen post filled with comments around it, is funny but sometimes it annoing too

as i said, im ok if my post gets deleted, they are alas human looking more than furry anyway
im a furry artist mostly, so yeah i can only post furries >w<

thanks again, really apreciated~
now i know admins and janitors has a lot more work than i though
but , in the end, this aint artist web, is an image board, we all have to know that this site has a higher criteria when allowing pictures, here we cant "is my artstyle" solve it and the pic is magically accepted

wish you a good day~! :3

HenkeiUsagi said:
i mean, im totaly fine with it, no biggie, im just seeing much of "undead" characters that get same as my draw, squigly mostly, but she has pass cuz she has "leviathan" a parasyte creature,

Well, here's another way of looking at it:
post #1843877 post #1636012 -- To me, these images have two characters.
post #1849110 -- this image has three.

The human-shaped character on her own may or may not be approvable, but there is a distinct additional head and body belonging to another character with a sentience force of their own.

skelletons even from humans has a pass too?

Yes, because skeletons don't usually get up and walk around after we die. I don't want to say that the "magic" makes it okay or anything, but nothing about a skeleton is REALLY recognizably human anymore.

It doesn't mater if they CAME from a human, they're just recognizably no longer like they used to be. Just like a mutant or ghost or something.

"Catrina" , mexican folclore being that is undead but is from a human.

That one MAY have squeaked in due to the extreme physical proportions. Maybe.

Her being "originally from a human" doesn't matter.

now to the main topic of the undead :
> so vampires, zombies / undead, skeletons are just affections, any being can become one, right?
so this means they arent monster girls and such, they are human and are irrelevant to the site.

Being FROM a human doesn't matter.

The important part is that they have traits that are noticeably non human.

If you look here: humanoid vampire solo you'll see that most vampires have pointed ears. Often there are wings. Fangs are an iffy trait, since a lot of characters are drawn with "cute fangs" to indicate that they are a certain sort of character.

Most Zombies have exposed bone and interior flesh. If you look, though, at -squigly humanoid zombie solo -- you can see pretty quickly that we approve VERY few zombie posts.

Skeletons basically entirely lack skin. and muscle. and organs. they're bones, mostly.

basically any being that has tail and ears are good to go

nope.

they jsut need to have non human features beyond skin color and eye color.
This means that pointy ears, horns, wings, etc are all good indicators of being non-human.
This means that most good "special effects" make up jobs might count.

It's a bit hard to define without going into long and extensive detail, but the staff has a pretyt good idea of what we're looking for.

That said...

now i know admins and janitors has a lot more work than i though

Thank you for being understanding :)

(and we do welcome polite questions about why something was or wasn't approved, or if it would be approved if you uploaded it <3 )

Pupslut pretty much got it earlier, but I'm still going to respond anyway.

HenkeiUsagi said:
so, as this logic is aplied to any vampire infected human, does them also affect the tags?
meaning, undeads are still as they where , like humans, now they are undead humans still, so they are still humans, so vampire infected humans are still humans?

If undead looks like human with any skin color alteration, it should be tagged as human, tagging that as undead or humanoid would be tag abuse.
Unless there's clear indications that they are undead e.g. body part dismembering or rotting flesh, it can (and usually does) count as costume.

Only names are tagged externally and this way you can search for characters known to be undead etc.

HenkeiUsagi said:
well, i sure need to explain my deleted post(s)

>both arent human related yet they where deleted because of "human only (irrelevenant to site)"
>the "undead" has purple skin, white pupils, even she can (and is on the pic) lay eggs
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2889470
(got picked by rule34)

>the gif is a long humanoid penis, opening its erm… urethra(?), moving like a snake.
(this i dindt posted elsewhere but here)

https://e621.net/post/deleted_index?user_id=297560
(if you can see them from here, unless i need to send you directly them)

OK, now I'm starting to see the picture here.
Can I ask you why aren't you keeping your personal gallery up elsewhere? Because every single time someone gets this up and arms about deleted posts, it's because they are the artist and they relied on us hosting their content for them or it's someone getting angry that their account has deleted posts now. I just hate when there's people who make things like this personal by making it our fault that now their work is not accessible in any way.

FurryNetwork is personal artwork gallery which is affiliated affiliated with e621, for this reason as e621 is not anyones personal gallery.

Regardless, like mentioned before, skin color is irrelevant, you can thank Simpsons, Equestria Girls, Steven Universe, etc. for this guideline change as we did get lots of content from these and none of it was exactly furry.

White pupils cannot be ruled as definite physical feature and can also be cosplay in form of contacts. Oviposition is also not too great to go by as anal/vaginal/urethal insertion of eggs is more than possible and some do this in real life even.

With the animation, there's simply not enough to go by. It's extremely short animation so I can't determine if it's camera movement or the penis moving. Absolutely no idea what to say of urethas opening as there is liquid coming out and we can't exactly take animation mistakes for example as acceptable merit. It is still visibly regular human penis even down to skin color.

Also just to reiterate: we are furry website.
Even if humanoids can get accepted, these are not in our focus at all. Right now we go with guidelines which do accept stuff up to stuff like elves as long as it's clear they are elves, but already there is some orcs and gnomes which do fall into gray area so changing guidelines further can cut even more of the content out. So it's better we accept some irrelevant content and cut some out from gray area, rather than start cutting all irrelevant content out, which could then in turn cut actually relevant content out in gray cases.

(Also as side point, rule34.xxx only cares of porn aspect so they get ad revenue, Paheal only cares about how popular the character is and that it's pornographic, meanwhile we do definitely want furry artwork were it safe or explicit)

HenkeiUsagi said:
btw, im talking bout undead like them :

post #1849022 post #1439883 post #1545171

i get that some of them can have horsecocks, parasytes, even have other body parts attached to make them whole again,
but i see my pic, and then i see them, i dont see how my work was deleted and all these are good to go.

thanks for taking your time to hear , of course a rant, me out,
i dont mind them being deleted as they are irrelevant to the site,
(just to point out there is a squigly only pic, without leviathan (the parasyte) still waiting for aproval as for today)
is just i see similar works even get auto aproved.

hope this dont cause any burden or just deviate from the actual form of forum posts

post #1849022 has other character which do have clearly pointy ears, which count as acceptable character. The green character counts as human there.

post #1439883 was most likely mistake, so I forwarded that to approver to do second check.

post #1545171 was deleted before I could even say a thing about that.

I feel we should also note that mods and janitors are human and, therefore, are guilty of occasional slip ups and mistakes and sometimes can accept or delete things that didn't warrant such an action

ok , so, because im the artist of them :

i dont like to jump on "any" website, i just though of this site of a better place (no "can you draw me X doing Y?l i can pay you good "promotion" yes?" sorta things)
here is a image board, meaning you are dissmised of being the propretary or the only one who can post it
i do have pixiv , my deviantart is kinda ded cuz it was overflowing with fetish arts, even i do have hentai foundry account, i want to get a eika and ink bunny ones, furryfanity too

and again, i dont mind adminds do their job and delete post that aint adecuate for the site, but "rantIng" / asking about "why my X got deleted" sorta made me (not sorta, MADE me) be a snitch, thing i was avoiding cuz you know, i mostly want to follow dah rules (i do have a record already, i deserve it, no doubt)
and just mind my own business

saw the chance and wanted to fix my deleted post, was in bane, but was worth of knowledge instead

im so sorry to cause any problem, was not my intention.

the important bits! >:3
> ok, primarly beast in kind is ok, if it has some humanoid traits (biped, anthro etc) can be as good as it is NOT too human looking, this of course means even aliens, due they're non human physiology, thats when it stop being human, right?

animal ears can make the humanoid be accept but that be case sensitive
stretching on it elves are accepted, ogre and trolls due their usual teeth showing more from their mouths are little more considered than elven ears.

as long anything resembles feral / beast / animal looking they should be good, even "Felicia" looking, fur here and there, ears, tail, beast hands, etc.

>as Mairo said : recolored skins arent "non human", they are still human

>as SnowWolf and DiceLovesBeingBlown : there are a lot of "Triggers" so to speak , that can just be accepted due the big number posts that is being attended daily, is just "it seems good" *aproves it* scheme, saves a lot of time, no argue with that~

and again, i remiss to ask "why my post are deleted?" , if an admin or janitor takes their time to actually see it thoughly is , for me, an honor,
they look thousands of pics, id just no bother them more for just a blunt reason.

>at the end i know here is furry only if not mostly, as im a furry artist, but though "hey, this char is a monster girl, must try to post it"

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
I feel we should also note that mods and janitors are human and, therefore, are guilty of occasional slip ups and mistakes and sometimes can accept or delete things that didn't warrant such an action

of course! we are all hoomans, we have lifes, i mean, you can see me "prasing" the mods and janitors cuz they are watching me,but,
i do have my one admin i hate, but that does not mean i dont have to ignore them, they are as important as all the janitors and admins of this site
(sorry to stretch this part, im just taking the chance to talk about it)
nobody is perfect, there is error, and hopefully is time to fix them as the adults we are.

admins and janitors search, aprove and deny what is the best of the best, of course we can just go and search elsewhere, but, do we say "thank you" to an admin / janitor?
they do help us fix some if not all our problems related to pics and posts,

i myself praise their works, and if i do wrong, then i must obey, im in their place, watching they working just with us to have resource materials,
of course if im doing good and some people say im doing bad, admins could or could not be helping me fix that issue,

i take this moment to thank you all, admins, janitors,other members, even the mods that did and will set me negative records if they must, thanks for noticing my wrong doing when so

and sorry if it is totally irelevant to the post, but thank you for taking the time.

one more thing…

i will try to just mind my posts, dont really want to say "hey that aint furry, delet it" like uh… people can say.
i maybe could post not so good pics/ non human / huamn only, sorry in advance.

and as an artist, i welcome any critic, and hope my replies arent unnecesary due they are on my posts.
i kinda like to reply "thank you, reallu apreciated" to whenever people likes my posts and comments positive critics or "i like it" comments,

i would like to help the admins and janitors with less problems, so if anything i can stop doing, or is annoing,please tell me >w<

HenkeiUsagi said:

and again, i remiss to ask "why my post are deleted?" , if an admin or janitor takes their time to actually see it thoughly is , for me, an honor,
they look thousands of pics, id just no bother them more for just a blunt reason.

The one with the undead girl looks human. Words are not enough to make someone be non-human.

Her skin is pale and gray, and so are her eyes, but that can be done with body paint and contacts! She has a fang, but it's a VERY tiny one. She could just be a human with some body paint and contacts. If she had SOMETHING else to make her look non-human, then she might slip by. She's very cute!! but she's too close to human

The penis snake is funny :) but I didn't see it as 'crawling" around. I thought that the camera was moving around the penis and it was flexing a little at the end. Since the penis is just a human-shaped penis, we couldn't allow it.

I don't know if a human-penis crawling around like a snake would be enough either. It would probably be a question that the staff has a long discussion about lol. BUt if it was a horse penis, it would probably be okay.

Almsot all of yoru art is very cute though. :) And people seem to like it too! :) That's wonderful! I'm sorry we can't accept those few pictures. <3

SnowWolf said:
The one with the undead girl looks human. Words are not enough to make someone be non-human.

Her skin is pale and gray, and so are her eyes, but that can be done with body paint and contacts! She has a fang, but it's a VERY tiny one. She could just be a human with some body paint and contacts. If she had SOMETHING else to make her look non-human, then she might slip by. She's very cute!! but she's too close to human

The penis snake is funny :) but I didn't see it as 'crawling" around. I thought that the camera was moving around the penis and it was flexing a little at the end. Since the penis is just a human-shaped penis, we couldn't allow it.

I don't know if a human-penis crawling around like a snake would be enough either. It would probably be a question that the staff has a long discussion about lol. BUt if it was a horse penis, it would probably be okay.

Almsot all of yoru art is very cute though. :) And people seem to like it too! :) That's wonderful! I'm sorry we can't accept those few pictures. <3

tbh all my chars has tiny fangs, cuz, why not~
the character is not mine, but i did the art.

well uh, the crawling was atm a good choice of words, tho with some background it could be but beh,
it is from a hyper furry OC, but untill is finished (sadly maybe never) id post it again, maybe >w<

daaaawwww thank you so much~ really appreciated~ <3
no worries, was just wondering, im more than pleased you got the time to see it once again >///<

besides, imma post moar furry art cuz yes >:3
also not only with my main OC, i have moar of them , thehehe~

wish you all the best~!
you guys are doing a great job, keep it up~!