So many people including myself have been tagging Deathclaws wrong. Not completely wrong mind you, but when it comes to "What really is a Deathclaw" we just put some random stuff and we can't seem to make up our minds.

I have seen Equid, Mammal, Reptile, Scalie, so on so fore.

The question kept nagging me when I myself was tagging Deathcaws. So I did a quick Wiki search and other sources on Goolge just in case.

Turns out Deathclaws are not in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM a mammal or anything related to a mammal.
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Appropriate Species Tags are: Deathclaw, Scalie, and Reptile!

All Deathclaws with Breasts/Female Deathclaws should have: femclaw, non-mammal breasts
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Even if they have a naval pease no that it doesn't MEAN they are a mammal. They get hatched from eggs, this isn't another Platypus scenario. They were mutated from a "Jackson's Chameleons"

Basic Source here: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Deathclaw

Please don't make these mistakes anymore. Even I as we speak must fix my own damage...

Unless it appears to be a different species, of course.

How many images have you tagged the big scalie brute with mammal?

https://e621.net/post/index/1/deathclaw%20mammal%20solo

hhhheeeehhhhhhh

if someone mistags stuff, fix it. if they do it repeatedly, report them. chances are that whoever is mistagging them isnt going to see this thread anyways.

hiekkapillu said:
if someone mistags stuff, fix it. if they do it repeatedly, report them. chances are that whoever is mistagging them isnt going to see this thread anyways.

Or you could send a polite dmail, surely? They might not be aware that they're mis-tagging.

I'd say if they keep doing it after a polite dmail, then report them.

Why would anybody think a deathclaw is a mammal? Like, it's very clearly visible in any game they have scales, and multiple quests and locations feature deathclaw nests with eggs inside them.

That aside, don't tag femclaw on any generic female deathclaw, it's a specific deathclaw OC from scrungusbungus.

Colorado Deathclaws are mammals though. (Tactics)

DamienG said:
Colorado Deathclaws are mammals though. (Tactics)

honestly those look visually so dramatically different from other deathclaws that they should have their own tag.

Yeah if they're so drastically different visuals-wise, they should warrant a seperate tag. Perhaps we can have a base deathclaw tag that each subspecies implies, like say: standard_deathclaw/whatever_the_name_is_for_normal_onesand colorado_deathclaw

the iffy thing is deathclaw is the standard name. Maybe treat it like the pokemon mega evolutions where they are separate from each other,

but do a temporary alias to of:
deathclaw -> original deathclaw or something along those lines to transfer the current tagged images into a new category.
than changing it to
deathclaw -> deathclaw_(disambiguation)
So that new images that crop up don't get automatically added. As far as the tags go, Colorado_deathclaw sounds like it could work tbh

Versperus said:
the iffy thing is deathclaw is the standard name. Maybe treat it like the pokemon mega evolutions where they are separate from each other,

but do a temporary alias to of:
deathclaw -> original deathclaw or something along those lines to transfer the current tagged images into a new category.
than changing it to
deathclaw -> deathclaw_(disambiguation)
So that new images that crop up don't get automatically added. As far as the tags go, Colorado_deathclaw sounds like it could work tbh

Fair enough, splitting them wouldn't be a bad idea. Just need to think of a good name for the original.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
Fair enough, splitting them wouldn't be a bad idea. Just need to think of a good name for the original.

Before we get ahead of our selves though, can someone please link an image? I'm googling it but I can't find anything regarding colorado_deathclaw or fallout 76 deathclaws that look different than the original

edit: I forgot that fallout 76 has nothing to do with Colorado, which makes me more confused as to which deathclaws people are talking about.

Versperus said:
Before we get ahead of our selves though, can someone please link an image? I'm googling it but I can't find anything regarding colorado_deathclaw or fallout 76 deathclaws that look different than the original

edit: I forgot that fallout 76 has nothing to do with Colorado, which makes me more confused as to which deathclaws people are talking about.

I did some digging and found this:
Https://fallout.gamepedia.com/Deathclaw

I hope that helps!

Kodanis said:
I did some digging and found this:
Https://fallout.gamepedia.com/Deathclaw

I hope that helps!

from source:
Mammalian deathclaw
FOT deathclaw.jpg
Gameplay article:
Fallout Tactics
Gray paragraphs are based on Fallout Tactics and were not confirmed by primary sources An entirely separate species that was termed deathclaw due to the similarity in behavior and, of course, the fearsome claws, the eastern hairy deathclaw is an unique creature that emerged in the territories belonging to the states of Illinois, Missouri, and Kansas.[47]

These deathclaws are mammals[48] covered in a thick layer of fur, providing them with excellent protection from the elements, while their thick, leathery skin grants them excellent protection from projectiles and melee weapons. They are easily distinguishable by a crest of five horns protruding from their skull and a single nasal horn. The eponymous claws are also much less pronounced than in reptile deathclaws. Hairy deathclaws have developed a natural intelligence and sentience, as well as the ability to mimic human speech. They are self-aware and sentient, though precisely when the transition occurs is unknown.[49]

There is only one known extant brood of these deathclaws, which was controlled by the Beastlords by imprisoning Mother, the matriarch of the brood.

So they're not even the same species, they just share a name due to similarities in body structure and appearance.

NotMeNotYou said:
Why would anybody think a deathclaw is a mammal? Like, it's very clearly visible in any game they have scales, and multiple quests and locations feature deathclaw nests with eggs inside them.

Well, I mean, I know it's hard to believe, but some of us don't actually play video games. o.o Personally, I'd probably tag it as "alien" and move on if I saw one.

CCoyote said:
Well, I mean, I know it's hard to believe, but some of us don't actually play video games. o.o Personally, I'd probably tag it as "alien" and move on if I saw one.

i'm... pretty sure that majority of people would see them as scalies even if they knew the nothing of the game. you know, the whole lizard-like appearance and scale covered body tends to do that. also aliens can be scalies.

I've never played the game. I looked through deathclaw solo and they look like dinosaur reptile monsters to me. I would tag as scalie and move on.

hiekkapillu said:
i'm... pretty sure that majority of people would see them as scalies even if they knew the nothing of the game. you know, the whole lizard-like appearance and scale covered body tends to do that. also aliens can be scalies.

Sure, but the post I was responding to was about how their appearance is unmistakable specifically in the game.

Versperus said:
from source:
Mammalian deathclaw
FOT deathclaw.jpg
Gameplay article:
Fallout Tactics
Gray paragraphs are based on Fallout Tactics and were not confirmed by primary sources An entirely separate species that was termed deathclaw due to the similarity in behavior and, of course, the fearsome claws, the eastern hairy deathclaw is an unique creature that emerged in the territories belonging to the states of Illinois, Missouri, and Kansas.[47]

These deathclaws are mammals[48] covered in a thick layer of fur, providing them with excellent protection from the elements, while their thick, leathery skin grants them excellent protection from projectiles and melee weapons. They are easily distinguishable by a crest of five horns protruding from their skull and a single nasal horn. The eponymous claws are also much less pronounced than in reptile deathclaws. Hairy deathclaws have developed a natural intelligence and sentience, as well as the ability to mimic human speech. They are self-aware and sentient, though precisely when the transition occurs is unknown.[49]

There is only one known extant brood of these deathclaws, which was controlled by the Beastlords by imprisoning Mother, the matriarch of the brood.

So they're not even the same species, they just share a name due to similarities in body structure and appearance.

Sorry for posting one thing and then vanishing but yeah this is what I was referring to, sorry.

I'm not even sure if they're canon anymore but that's never stopped fan art, hah. Sorry if it was confusing.
I only mentioned it because an alias for Deathclaw that automatically applied 'scalie' or something might catch some false positives. Reading back I see how my post could be seen as just being contrary and confusing for the sake of argument.

The game they're in isn't the most well known (Fallout Tactics).

They might be a whole separate species, yeah. That discrepancy is more the game designer's fault than E6's though. In Tactics itself, if I remember right the discrepancy is more or less ignored entirely.

They're just like "Yeah, these are Deathclaws, I GUESS." and make no attempt at explaining why they're so different.

So they might not even be canon anymore, which might make a Wiki's job easier but as canon's never stopped fan art or rule34 like we still gotta deal with it.

Anyways sorry for the confusion and thanks for finding that and your patience.

please don't tag any deathclaws as aliens unless they were born in space, meaning they'd probably be an oc. As far as I can tell there were no deathclaws born in space in the dlc of Mothership Zeta

So tagging deathclaws, unless an oc, "aliens" is off the table

ANON_PIE said:
please don't tag any deathclaws as aliens unless they were born in space, meaning they'd probably be an oc. As far as I can tell there were no deathclaws born in space in the dlc of Mothership Zeta

So tagging deathclaws, unless an oc, "aliens" is off the table

There are 17 posts tagged with deathclaw alien, and looking at your tag history you've not removed a single alien tag.

I feel it's something that could easily be handled manually with how rare it's tagged incorrectly, and given there's only 17 posts you could probably have just fixed the offending posts, rather than necro a 4 month old thread for something people aren't really mistagging..

ANON_PIE said:
please don't tag any deathclaws as aliens unless they were born in space, meaning they'd probably be an oc. As far as I can tell there were no deathclaws born in space in the dlc of Mothership Zeta

So tagging deathclaws, unless an oc, "aliens" is off the table

Literally every post tagged as deathclaw and alien have the alien tag because they either contain other characters that are aliens, or are hybrid of alien species and deathclaw. Nobody is tagging deathclaws as aliens.

user_22273 said:
Literally every post tagged as deathclaw and alien have the alien tag because they either contain other characters that are aliens, or are hybrid of alien species and deathclaw. Nobody is tagging deathclaws as aliens.

I never said people were, I was just responding that you shouldn't unless they were an oc...which makes me think that that was a wasted opportunity in Mothership Zeta...I mean imagine...Alien Deathclaws...by god that would be so dang cool!

sorry that I posted this months later.

anon_pie said:
They were mutated from a "Jackson's Chameleons"

Not quite accurate. They were actually genetically engineered by splicing favorable genetic traits from multiple other animals, onto the base genome of the Jackson's Chameleon. "Mutated from" implies that they just took the Jackson's Chameleon and exposed it to various things that cause random mutations to occur, then selected for the ones they liked, until they eventually completely transformed it into the deathclaw we all know and hate.

Also, though it has basically nothing to do with the current discussion, they were created before the Great War, not by anyone in the wasteland. Just throwing that out there.