I recently started uploading my character on E621. His name is Draixen and his species is a Scaled_Fox as my username suggests. It is a species I created and I would like to tag it as such. But when I created the tag it either automatically aliased to (Fox) or some mod misunderstood its meaning and aliased it.

@DiceLovesBeingBlown aliased this one to "hybrid" 14 days ago. Just looks like a dragon with fox bits, of which the site already has a few posts.
post #1644043 post #314937 post #138643 post #1875424

Hell, there's even more if you decide you don't want dragons of the ウィーアブー variety.
post #1389916

Yes he is a technically a hybrid of a fox and a dragon but I still created this version of the species that I call a ScaledFox. Since that is my artist name. I also want my posts to be tagged as such. I do draw/contribute to some of the art I post but not all. A variety of it is commissioned work and I would still like for his species/my namesake to be attached in the tags without tagging me as an artist when I choose. Please just make Scaled_Fox it's own tag under species as I intended in the first place.

we don't really allow vanity tags for simple hybrid species like this unless it is a true real-life hybrid like the tigon or pumapard. anything else gets aliased to hybrid.

ScaledFox said:
Yes he is a technically a hybrid of a fox and a dragon but I still created this version of the species that I call a ScaledFox. Since that is my artist name. I also want my posts to be tagged as such. I do draw/contribute to some of the art I post but not all. A variety of it is commissioned work and I would still like for his species/my namesake to be attached in the tags without tagging me as an artist when I choose. Please just make Scaled_Fox it's own tag under species as I intended in the first place.

As @Ratte said, we don't really keep hybrid tags unless they're actual living hybrids or are specific mythological creatures or entities (see: chimera and mythological_chimera).

Your character doesn't seem to be a unique fictional species with its own rules and looks but rather just a hybrid of a dragon and a fox. Simply tag as fox, dragon, and hybrid.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
As @Ratte said, we don't really keep hybrid tags unless they're actual living hybrids or are specific mythological creatures or entities (see: chimera and mythological_chimera).

Your character doesn't seem to be a unique fictional species with its own rules and looks but rather just a hybrid of a dragon and a fox. Simply tag as fox, dragon, and hybrid.

I think whether it's Unique or not is up to me the Creator. However similar does not equal the same. I can update the weekly on here if need be but there are a lot of things about this species that are different than other people's iterations of a hybrid Fox and dragon. But nonetheless if you don't allow people to create their own species tags then why even have it as an option.

ScaledFox said:
I think whether it's Unique or not is up to me the Creator. However similar does not equal the same. I can update the weekly on here if need be but there are a lot of things about this species that are different than other people's iterations of a hybrid Fox and dragon. But nonetheless if you don't allow people to create their own species tags then why even have it as an option.

We DO allow custom species tags. A dragon/fox hybrid isn't a custom species, it is a fantasy hybrid. The species of your character doesn't seem to have any other individuals of that species nor any references/rules unique to the species and not just specifically for this one character. Therefore it is lacking the general qualities of an actual custom species.

See for example, pikachu: pikachu aren't only one single character, are a numerous species, and are reoccurring. Ergo, they warrant a species tag.

i suggest looking at the aliases for the ever-growing hybrid tag at some point.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
We DO allow custom species tags. A dragon/fox hybrid isn't a custom species, it is a fantasy hybrid. The species of your character doesn't seem to have any other individuals of that species nor any references/rules unique to the species and not just specifically for this one character. Therefore it is lacking the general qualities of an actual custom species.

See for example, pikachu: pikachu aren't only one single character, are a numerous species, and are reoccurring. Ergo, they warrant a species tag.

Of course it doesn't have any other individuals of that species because I created it. And yes it does have references and rules unique to that species. Just because I don't have them uploaded on E6 doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm currently in the process of writing a story centered on this species. And a fantasy hybrid still warrants new species.

okay

just tag it with fox dragon and hybrid

what's the problem here

We're literal mods telling you that fantasy hybrids do NOT warrant new species tags, that is how we deal with fictional hybrids that aren't the rare, unique mythological characters/species exceptions.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
We're literal mods telling you that fantasy hybrids do NOT warrant new species tags, that is how we deal with fictional hybrids that aren't the rare, unique mythological characters/species exceptions.

Because there is still a difference. He is not a hybrid of a fox and a dragon. He is a hybrid of a Kitsune and a dragon. I understand your confusion but there is still a huge difference between a fox and a Kitsune. So I suppose if anything I would accept if you re alias the tag to Fox spirit.

ScaledFox said:
Because there is still a difference. He is not a hybrid of a fox and a dragon. He is a hybrid of a Kitsune and a dragon. I understand your confusion but there is still a huge difference between a fox and a Kitsune. So I suppose if anything I would accept if you re alias the tag to Fox spirit.

The Kitsune of Japanese folklore ARE foxes, foxes are seen as yōkai in their folklore. Same thing happens with the tanuki, aka the Japanese raccoon dog, but they're still the same animal. They're just portrayed in folklore as mythical beings.

ScaledFox said:
Because there is still a difference. He is not a hybrid of a fox and a dragon. He is a hybrid of a Kitsune and a dragon. I understand your confusion but there is still a huge difference between a fox and a Kitsune. So I suppose if anything I would accept if you re alias the tag to Fox spirit.

dice and ratte are probably the last people you want to question the species knowledge of

Maybe just think of a more unique name for your species than scaled_fox

Versperus said:
Maybe just think of a more unique name for your species than scaled_fox

Scaled Fox is unique. When I created the species there was nothing associated with that Tag. If you Google that you find things associated to my species and character.

I am trying to compromise with you guys to not create the tag scaledfox and just Alias it with Fox spirit because that is more of an accurate definition. You already have the Fox Spirit tag under species so I don't see why that is difficult

ScaledFox said:
Kitsune the mythological creature is still different than a fox as a person who has studied at Asian folklore and has a minor in Japanese history I would know just because the word is shared doesn't mean it's the same thing. The Kitsune is still a magical fantasy creature while a fox is not. It depends on the iteration of the version.

http://www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/m/page/Kitsune

This isn't the most accurate Source but it's still better than Wikipedia

Just because they're mythical beings doesn't mean they're suddenly not foxes. They're magical foxes. Magical foxes are foxes. They derive from similar mythology of the trickster fox, which is commonly seen in Native American folklore. Hell, it's seen in Aesop's fables. Hyper intelligent, trickster foxes are a tale as old as time. Are the foxes in Aesop's fables suddenly not foxes anymore now?

They're mythical beings in folklore, but they're still foxes.

ScaledFox said:
Scaled Fox is unique. When I created the species there was nothing associated with that Tag. If you Google that you find things associated to my species and character.

I am trying to compromise with you guys to not create the tag scaledfox and just Alias it with Fox spirit because that is more of an accurate definition. You already have the Fox Spirit tag under species so I don't see why that is difficult

I'm sorry, but scaled_fox just sounds like a descriptor rather than a species name. A descriptor that without the underscore sounds like a search algorithm people use to search for posts tagged both scalie and fox.

maybe the difference is that kitsunes have cultural significance and scaled foxes don't

yeah this is going nowhere and the current alias is not going to change.