Aliasing a_cat_is_fine_too → invalid_tag
Link to alias

Reason:

it's just a tag given to posts with feral cats, it is no longer memed.

EDIT: The tag alias a_cat_is_fine_too -> invalid_tag (forum #275019) has been rejected by @NotMeNotYou.

Considering how it has been given clean ups and it still continues being a subjective mess, +1

Probably would be better as a set.

I am vehemently opposed to this alias. I believe tags like "lol comments" and the many joke tags are important because they show this place isn't just an art archive, its a community where people have fun and even laugh from time to time. Sure the tags aren't very (what's thr best word?) practical? But they still help people find amusing content.

Anyways that's my two cents.

-1. I agree with @Thirtyeight.
Tags like this are the special exceptions, they don't have to make sense in order for them to be valid tags.

Additionally, back to the same comments made on forum #274306, should people want to search for posts like this they couldn't really do it with sets or pools.

If tags like this are removed, then what, why, what_has_science_done, and where_is_your_god_now shouldn't exist as well.

TheGreatWolfgang said:
-1. I agree with @Thirtyeight.
Tags like this are the special exceptions, they don't have to make sense in order for them to be valid tags.

Additionally, back to the same comments made on forum #274306, should people want to search for posts like this they couldn't really do it with sets or pools.

If tags like this are removed, then what, why, what_has_science_done, and where_is_your_god_now shouldn't exist as well.

I'm also fine with that, But like I stated with my suggestion this tag is that it's lost purpose and is just tagged one someone is fucking a cat, if it was being used for specific instances I wouldn't say anything. But it isn't.

Yeah, this has been cleaned one too many times already. Time to invalidate it, blame the users who keep overtagging it.

And it's not comparable to joke tags. Those don't require constant clean up.

It's not like Engrish or other tags that are easily defined as in what the "joke" is, the ACIFT posts seem too varied to argue for keeping this tag, so I'd say +1.

Honestly considering the usage of the tag, I could see an alias to felid working out aright

ImpidiDinkaDoo said:
Honestly considering the usage of the tag, I could see an alias to felid working out aright

That could work, but there are pokemon felines and other fantasy felines tagged, would that work? Do we tag fantasy species as regular species?

Peekaboo said:
That could work, but there are pokemon felines and other fantasy felines tagged, would that work? Do we tag fantasy species as regular species?

Vague tags like felid and feline are fine for fictional cat-like creatures, mainly because they're so broad and essentially act like the "similar to feline animals" tags. Words with -ine suffixes basically translate to "similar to/like". So, feline is pretty much "felid-like". Its broad enough to encompass creatures that have similar structures

The problem comes with being too specific and tagging fictional animals as real, specific animal species/genera/etc like tagging Litten domestic_cat, or Incineroar as tiger.

ImpidiDinkaDoo said:
Vague tags like felid and feline are fine for fictional cat-like creatures, mainly because they're so broad and essentially act like the "similar to feline animals" tags. Words with -ine suffixes basically translate to "similar to/like". So, feline is pretty much "felid-like". Its broad enough to encompass creatures that have similar structures

Right-on, if that's the case an alias to felid does seem more appropriate.

there needs to be a tag for when people are fucking cats or dogs or small feral animals that don't look like they pass the harkness test so i can blacklist it instead of "a cat is fine too"

UgandaKnucklesYT said:
there needs to be a tag for when people are fucking cats or dogs or small feral animals that don't look like they pass the harkness test so i can blacklist it instead of "a cat is fine too"

bestiality

Versperus said:
bestiality

No, that is not tag for it. On e6 the bestiality also applies to people fucking animals that pass the harkness test.

There is a significant difference between these two:
post #1265369
post #1833163
and currently there is no way to separate them.

hiekkapillu said:

Ah, hmmm..
than the best I can think of currently is
bestiality smaller_feral

Versperus said:
Ah, hmmm..
than the best I can think of currently is
bestiality smaller_feral

It still doesn't help with separating non-sentient looking animals and sentient looking animals.

hiekkapillu said:
It still doesn't help with separating non-sentient looking animals and sentient looking animals.

I mean... I guess a tag project could be under taken which a tag like "harkness_bestiality" is under taken, but than you have to think of a better name becoz I know that mine is probably shit. And find users willing to do it

TheGreatWolfgang said:
-1. I agree with @Thirtyeight.
Tags like this are the special exceptions, they don't have to make sense in order for them to be valid tags.

Additionally, back to the same comments made on forum #274306, should people want to search for posts like this they couldn't really do it with sets or pools.

If tags like this are removed, then what, why, what_has_science_done, and where_is_your_god_now shouldn't exist as well.

Versperus said:
I'm also fine with that, But like I stated with my suggestion this tag is that it's lost purpose and is just tagged one someone is fucking a cat, if it was being used for specific instances I wouldn't say anything. But it isn't.

When you say your fine with that, what do you mean? Preserving joke tags or eliminating them?

Thirtyeight said:
When you say your fine with that, what do you mean? Preserving joke tags or eliminating them?

elimination of the useless, yet the ones which hold to a purpose can stay. If the current suggested tag being gotten rid of actually held to a standard this wouldn't be suggested, but there is no standard.

Yeah good luck separating those two things. There isn't any clear barrier between the two, and it is way too subjective even for general guidelines.

Your best best might be to make use of the realistic tag perhaps.

On a personal note, I think the Harkness test is dumb and bigoted. Unsurprisingly.

Versperus said:
Aliasing a_cat_is_fine_too → invalid_tag
Link to alias

Reason:

it's just a tag given to posts with feral cats, it is no longer memed.

Have you ever read the comic this meme came from? TL;DR It's a comedy where a girl transforms in to a cat to avoid being raped and it doesn't work.

But like I stated with my suggestion this tag is that it's lost purpose and is just tagged one someone is fucking a cat

The ending of the comic implies the girl gets raped anyway. It's a proper use of the meme.

The comic is a comedy, the meme it's self is very vulgar and funny.It points out in a comical fashion how absurd and messed up some artwork is.

post #1917881

People making jokes like this actual helps the artwork seem less psychotic and fucked up then it is.

Clawdragons said:

On a personal note, I think the Harkness test is dumb and bigoted. Unsurprisingly.

It sounds like something Nazis would come up with.

"Stop having fun guys"

Clawdragons said:
On a personal note, I think the Harkness test is dumb and bigoted. Unsurprisingly.

How? It's a simplified method of evaluating sapience, age of consent, and sexual consent when dealing with interspecies relationships.

Oh no you didn't bitch! Honestly, I'm in favor of more silly, quasi-meme tags. They just add something without mucking anything up. It's a "straight upgrade", so to speak.

Clawdragons said:
On a personal note, I think the Harkness test is dumb and bigoted. Unsurprisingly.

JeffreyDahmer said:
It sounds like something Nazis would come up with.

What the fuck? It's literally just "don't fuck something if you cannot communicate about consent and ensure that the thing you want to fuck is not a minor", which is perfectly reasonable and socially acceptable ideology to follow, how on earth that is bigoted or nazism???

I have no idea what Jeffrey is on about, but to be clear, as for me, I'm an advocate of zoophile rights, and think that zoophilia is not necessarily immoral. So as you might surmise, I disagree on what characteristics are necessary for consent. Mind you, I do agree fully with the last criteria, it's mostly the first I have a problem with (and I would presume there would be a disagreement about the application of body language as well).

This really isn't the place to argue about topics like this though. If you want to know more details about why I think the way I do, or if you feel like you want to try to change my mind, feel free to send me a PM or something. I've discussed this topic a lot.

Clawdragons said:
I've discussed this topic a lot.

Protip : Stop.

hiekkapillu said:
>consent
>socially acceptable

Hold up there Adolf, my grandxer didn't sacrifice xer's life during WWII so it's grand kids can be kink-shamed by the likes of you.

Clawdragons said:
I have no idea what Jeffrey is on about.

That makes two of us.

EightyNine said:
Protip : Stop.

post #1831394

Clawdragons said:
This really isn't the place to argue about topics like this though.

then stay on topic.

Chaser said:
then stay on topic.

Correct, that was the gist of that sentence.

And, with that, I realize I never gave my direct feelings on this alias. Personally, I'd be fine with it being aliased away because unlike other joke tags, there's not really any particular value in this one. It is consistently used too generally, and even if it were used more appropriately it still would basically amount to:

bestiality feline human

Or thereabouts. It is pretty different from other joke tags like where_is_your_god_now in that regard. There isn't much point in actually searching it for humor purposes, at least in my opinion.

All in all I'd be fine with aliasing it away, even though I think plenty of other joke tags are worth keeping.

Honestly I like the tag a_cat_is_fine_too sure it's a joke tag, but it honestly makes that kinda content WAAAAY easier to find. Without it you'd need to use so many specific tags to pinpoint it.

ThePyromancer said:
Honestly I like the tag a_cat_is_fine_too sure it's a joke tag, but it honestly makes that kinda content WAAAAY easier to find. Without it you'd need to use so many specific tags to pinpoint it.

human_on_feral cat

Versperus said:
human_on_feral cat

Half of that search does not apply, s no

CamKitty said:
Half of that search does not apply, s no

The thing is that a_cat_is_fine_too tag does exact same thing. It has similar content as that search, except it has less posts. People keep misusing the tag, and it needs to be regularly cleaned. Maintaining it takes so much effort that at this point it's not really worth it anymore.

I advocated for this tag in the past and tried cleanups and purges. It's a good tag but people often ruin a good thing with stupidity.

Maybe alias to a_cat_is_fine_to_(meme) and purge, as one last ditch effort. Otherwise +1 to invalidate.

hiekkapillu said:
The thing is that a_cat_is_fine_too tag does exact same thing. It has similar content as that search, except it has less posts. People keep misusing the tag, and it needs to be regularly cleaned. Maintaining it takes so much effort that at this point it's not really worth it anymore.

A cat is fine too is used for furry stuff though. I have a limit of 6 tags to use. a_cat_is_fine_too -human is better, I can't use human_on_feral -human. It also instantly implies a feral cat is being fucked, whereas any other tag combinations could be an anthro cat fucking a feral other creature.

ThePyromancer said:
A cat is fine too is used for furry stuff though. I have a limit of 6 tags to use. a_cat_is_fine_too -human is better, I can't use human_on_feral -human. It also instantly implies a feral cat is being fucked, whereas any other tag combinations could be an anthro cat fucking a feral other creature.

The tag is constantly misused on posts involving anthro cats and cat-like creatures though. So yeah, many use it pretty much as a tag for any and all felids in any and all forms, making it just kind of a pointless tag

ImpidiDinkaDoo said:
The tag is constantly misused on posts involving anthro cats and cat-like creatures though. So yeah, many use it pretty much as a tag for any and all felids in any and all forms, making it just kind of a pointless tag

Even then I still find it waaay easier to use that tag than any other combination. If I specifically want feral I can do a_cat_is_fine_too -anthro.

Never looked into how it is set up, but as someone who uses the tag to look for what it should be, I would volunteer to help maintain such tag, and remove it from any pic that is not someone banging a feral cat :O

Beats losing something plenty of people use because other people are idiots

ThePyromancer said:
A cat is fine too is used for furry stuff though. I have a limit of 6 tags to use. a_cat_is_fine_too -human is better, I can't use human_on_feral -human. It also instantly implies a feral cat is being fucked, whereas any other tag combinations could be an anthro cat fucking a feral other creature.

Right, but that's literally not what the tag is for. It's meant for the meme and nothing else. A case could be made for similar situations with a feral cat but it's a slippery slope (as you can tell).

CamKitty said:
Never looked into how it is set up, but as someone who uses the tag to look for what it should be, I would volunteer to help maintain such tag, and remove it from any pic that is not someone banging a feral cat :O

Beats losing something plenty of people use because other people are idiots

You aren't listening to what's being said. the tag a_cat_is_fine_too wasn't for people banging feral cats, but your volunteering to do the exact opposite and remove content that would be validly added in favor of content that is invalid. This only solidifies my point of purging the tag.

Versperus said:
You aren't listening to what's being said. the tag a_cat_is_fine_too wasn't for people banging feral cats, but your volunteering to do the exact opposite and remove content that would be validly added in favor of content that is invalid. This only solidifies my point of purging the tag.

Funny, that si exactly what it's orgigins insinuate

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/a-cat-is-fine-too

I am curious what your version is

CamKitty said:
Funny, that si exactly what it's orgigins insinuate

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/a-cat-is-fine-too

I am curious what your version is

Pretty much the same.It's natural for a meme to evolve over it's life span. You don't want it to become so convoluted that it loses it's original meaning but it's almost the same definition. It's been used properly for the most part.

CamKitty said:
Funny, that si exactly what it's orgigins insinuate

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/a-cat-is-fine-too

I am curious what your version is

meme tags should be used for situations that replicate the meme, like every other meme tag. Not just as a tag for wanting to find cats getting bangnaranged. With the way it's used,

hiekkapillu said:
Considering how it has been given clean ups and it still continues being a subjective mess, +1

Probably would be better as a set.

So my plan of action for this is one of three things.

1) Alias it to felid as that is what most of the posts depict. The meme will be lost this way though.

2) Alias it to include a (meme) suffix and clean the tag out. This is probably the best solution as far as the name goes and still finding the meme, but it hasn't been working so far so it might not be much good at this point.

3) Lastly, it can be made into a set, and be aliased away. Sets work differently than tags so this will have mixed results.

If there are other better solutions, feel free to bring them forth, otherwise an informed decision will be made in a day or two based on feedback.

+1 option 3

I motion for option 1. lest someone wants to maintain suggestion 3.

Seeing as other members are getting the meaning of the tag wrong but are still pushing for changes in this thread, 1 I guess.

Shame to blame the tag for people using it wrong though