Topic: Cum Tags...Again: Singing In The White Rain Edition

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ShylokVakarian

Member

We have A LOT of cum tags. Like, holy fuck. Do we even NEED all these tags? I really let these tags go...I'm gonna start with the massive list that is the cum_on/in tags.

Proposals
Remove
Reason: Who Would Search For/Blacklist This?

cum_on_ear(s)
cum_in_hair
cum_on_neck
cum_on_shoulder
cum_on_arm(s)
cum_on_hand(s)
cum_in_hand(s)
cum_on_leg(s)
cum_on_paw(s)
cum_on_bed

Reason: Too Specific/Not Enough Examples

cum_on_braces
cum_on_horn
cum_on_chin
cum_on_crotch
cum_on_balloons
cum_on_partner
cum_on_perineum
cum_on_sheets
cum_on_table
cum_on_hoof
cum_on_furniture
cum_on_sofa
cum_on_pillow
cum_on_sheath
cum_in_bladder
cum_in_toilet
cum_in_ovaries
Any tags in the tag search cum_on* with 17 or less posts (I'm NOT typing all of that out)
Any tags in the tag search cum_in* with 7 posts or less (except cum_in_armpit, cum_in_blowhole, and cum_in_sock)

Reason: Too General (Yeah, that's a thing)

cum_on_body
cum_on_fur
cum_on_head
cum_on_upper_body
cum_on_lower_body
cum_in_container

cum_in_balls: Meaningless

Alias To Similar Tag
Reason: Too Specific/Not Enough Examples

cum_in_throat -> cum_in_mouth, cum_swallow
cum_on_beak/cum_on_muzzle -> cum_on_face
cum_in_beak -> cum_in_mouth
cum_on_nipples/cum_between_breasts -> cum_on_chest
cum_on_knot -> cum_on_penis
cum_on_cheek/cum_on_lips/cum_on_snout -> cum_on_face

Reason: Too Similar To Other Tag

cum_on_breasts -> cum_on_chest
cum_in_uterus -> cum_in_pussy
cum_on_screen -> cum_on_viewer
cum_on_cake -> cum_on_food
cum_on_shirt/cum_on_hat -> cum_on_clothing
cum_on_panties -> cum_on_underwear
cum_in_panties/cum_in_jockstrap -> cum_in_underwear

Rename

cum_on_armpit -> cum_in_armpit
cum_on_butt/cum_in_ass -> One or the other (Personally, I prefer "ass", but I'm aware that most ass tags use "butt", and thus is how that will likely go)
cum_in_own_ass -> cum_in_own_butt (if above results to the "butt" solution)

Redefine

cum_in_eye: Possible split into cum_on_eye (cum is on the eye; Used primarily for blacklisting) and cum_in_eye (cum is in the eye socket or someone is cumming in one; Someone's fetish)
cum_bucket: Move definition to cum_in_bucket, and alias to cum_in_bucket
cum_in_urethra: Define as only urethral penetration where vaginas are concerned

Keep As Is
Reason: Essential/Important/No Alternatives

cum_on_face
cum_in_mouth
cum_on_tongue
cum_on_back
cum_on_chest
cum_on_anus
cum_on_balls
cum_on_penis
cum_on_pussy
cum_in_pussy
cum_in_cloaca
cum_on_slit
cum_in_slit
cum_on_clothing
cum_on_glasses
cum_in_clothing
cum_in_pants
cum_in_underwear
cum_through_clothing
cum_through_underwear
cum_on_dildo
cum_in_tentacles
cum_inside
cum_on_self
cum_in_self
cum_in_own_mouth
cum_on_own_face
cum_writing
autobukkake
cum_on_stomach
cum_in_stomach
cum_in_gills
cum_in_ear

Reason: This Is Someone's Fetish

cum_in_nose
cum_in_nipples
cum_in_navel
cum_in_penis
cum_in_foreskin
cum_on_feet
cum_on_tail
cum_on_wings
cum_on_ground
cum_on_ceiling
cum_on_wall
cum_on_food
cum_in_a_cup
cum_in_bowl
cum_in_bucket
cum_in_water
cum_circulation
cum_on_viewer
cum_on_glass
cum_on_egg
cum_in_goo
cum_in_toy
cum_in_pumpkin
cum_in_diaper
cum_in_sheath
cum_in_own_pussy
cum_in_food
cum_in_bottle

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MagnusEffect

Member

Why is cum_in_nose a "valid fetish" but not cum_in_ear?
What makes cum_on_chest more valid than cum_on_stomach?

Updated by anonymous

ShylokVakarian

Member

MagnusEffect said:
Why is cum_in_nose a "valid fetish" but not cum_in_ear?
What makes cum_on_chest more valid than cum_on_stomach?

Not quite sure, I've been almost mindlessly sorting through these. I'll probs move those to the Keep As Is section.

Updated by anonymous

TheGreatWolfgang

Privileged

I'm all for the aliasing, renaming and redefining the tags to make them more accurate, however I don't really see the reason to remove them.

Reason: Who Would Search For/Blacklist This?

cum_on_ear(s)
cum_in_hair
cum_on_neck
cum_on_shoulder
cum_on_arm(s)
cum_on_hand(s)
cum_in_hand(s)
cum_on_leg(s)
cum_on_paw(s)
cum_on_bed

Actually useful if tagged correctly and consistently. People can use these tags for searches on specific details they can remember and IIRC cum_on_paw is a fetish.

EDIT: cum_on_paws is already aliased to cum_on_feet.

Reason: Too Specific/Not Enough Examples

cum_on_braces
cum_on_horn
cum_on_chin
cum_on_crotch
cum_on_balloons
cum_on_partner
cum_on_perineum
cum_on_sheets
cum_on_table
cum_on_hoof
cum_on_furniture
cum_on_sofa
cum_on_pillow
cum_on_sheath
cum_in_bladder
cum_in_toilet
cum_in_ovaries
Any tags in the tag search cum_on* with 17 or less posts (I'm NOT typing all of that out)
Any tags in the tag search cum_in* with 7 posts or less (except cum_in_armpit, cum_in_blowhole, and cum_in_sock)

Some of these I can agree are too specific or obscure to be tagged, but my points still stand for the cum_on/in_<body part> tags. Some of these can be aliased to more general tags, i.e. cum_on_chin --> cum_on_face.

Reason: Too General (Yeah, that's a thing)

cum_on_body
cum_on_fur
cum_on_head
cum_on_upper_body
cum_on_lower_body
cum_in_container

These have the potential of being used as umbrella tags for the many cum_on/in_<body part> tags.

cum_in_urethra: Too Similar To Other Tags, But Can't Alias Because Of Pesky Terminology
cum_in_balls: Meaningless

These two tags might be fetish tags as well. They mean the pumping of cum into the specific parts, like how cum_in_balls can be related to ball_inflation.

Updated by anonymous

ShylokVakarian

Member

TheGreatWolfgang said:
I'm all for the aliasing, renaming and redefining the tags to make them more accurate, however I don't really see the reason to remove them.

Actually useful if tagged correctly and consistently. People can use these tags for searches on specific details they can remember and IIRC cum_on_paw is a fetish.

EDIT: cum_on_paws is already aliased to cum_on_feet.
Some of these I can agree are too specific or obscure to be tagged, but my points still stand for the cum_on/in_<body part> tags. Some of these can be aliased to more general tags, i.e. cum_on_chin --> cum_on_face.

These have the potential of being used as umbrella tags for the many cum_on/in_<body part> tags.

These two tags might be fetish tags as well. They mean the pumping of cum into the specific parts, like how cum_in_balls can be related to ball_inflation.

The problem with the ones I marked "Who Would Search For This?" is people are more likely to notice other details first.

The general tags are quite simply just unnecessary, with maybe the exception of cum_on_body.

The problem with cum_in_urethra is, it's too similar to cum_in_penis, at least where the male genitals are concerned, and I'm pretty sure half the posts in there are talking about penises, not vaginas. Cum_in_balls is just redundant, cum_in_penis works just fine, unless you're cumming into a hole you made in someone's testicles with a knife.

Sure, I'd be all for enforcing a stricter definition for cum_in_urethra, but cum_in_balls should go.

Updated by anonymous

MagnusEffect

Member

ShylokVakarian said:
Cum_in_balls is just redundant, cum_in_penis works just fine, unless you're cumming into a hole you made in someone's testicles with a knife.

Sure, I'd be all for enforcing a stricter definition for cum_in_urethra, but cum_in_balls should go.

A good portion of the cum_in_balls posts have some form of internal shot
but I'm concerned about the number of posts mistagged from cum_on_balls

The problem with cum_in_urethra is, it's too similar to cum_in_penis, at least where the male genitals are concerned, and I'm pretty sure half the posts in there are talking about penises, not vaginas.

But there are female-genitalia cum_in_urethra posts: cum_in_urethra ~female ~andromorph
Ignore the spotted hyena. There's a bunch of "pseudopenis" posts tagged as urethral and I'm too lazy to try and get that all sorted by myself when most of the artwork treats it like penis_in_penis instead of how it's actually supposed to function. I did pull anatomically_correct off it for having dog dick though.
There probably needs to be a talk at some point about pseudopenis tagging, what counts as a true pseudopenis, and what counts as just a penis.
Just because most of the posts are cum_in_penis doesn't mean the other tags can't be valid.
It's not something I enjoy thinking about, but I want to point out female-genitalia urethral penetration is common enough that it has a Wikipedia page

I'm not sure where you got this idea that e621 has too many tags, but in many cases we have all these tags so we can be more specific about image content, not less.
e.g. cum_on_breasts will show you images where a character has cum on their breasts, but if you were to search cum_on_chest breasts you might find a lot of male/female posts where a man is the only one with cum on their chest, or it might even be a male/male focused image

Updated by anonymous

ShylokVakarian

Member

MagnusEffect said:
A good portion of the cum_in_balls posts have some form of internal shot
but I'm concerned about the number of posts mistagged from cum_on_balls

But there are female-genitalia cum_in_urethra posts: cum_in_urethra ~female ~andromorph
Ignore the spotted hyena. There's a bunch of "pseudopenis" posts tagged as urethral and I'm too lazy to try and get that all sorted by myself when most of the artwork treats it like penis_in_penis instead of how it's actually supposed to function. I did pull anatomically_correct off it for having dog dick though.
There probably needs to be a talk at some point about pseudopenis tagging, what counts as a true pseudopenis, and what counts as just a penis.
Just because most of the posts are cum_in_penis doesn't mean the other tags can't be valid.
It's not something I enjoy thinking about, but I want to point out female-genitalia urethral penetration is common enough that it has a Wikipedia page

I said I was open to the idea of redefining cum_in_urethra towards a more vagina-related tag.

I'm not sure where you got this idea that e621 has too many tags, but in many cases we have all these tags so we can be more specific about image content, not less.
e.g. cum_on_breasts will show you images where a character has cum on their breasts, but if you were to search cum_on_chest breasts you might find a lot of male/female posts where a man is the only one with cum on their chest, or it might even be a male/male focused image

Alright, so what tags SHOULD I move to "Keep As Is"? Can I get a list?

Updated by anonymous

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