Topic: why photos of figures or statue not allow?

Posted under Art Talk

While still considered art, statues are definitely one of the things to avoid uploading. Current photos of statues that are on here still were grandfathered in before rule changes.

Which is why we still have Toy Story Woody figures here ._.

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I think you both missed that he recognizes it is against the rules now, but is asking WHY it is against the rules. That is a different question all together.

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hiekkapillu said:
Photos of statues is pretty clearly listed in the "bad things to upload" section in uploading guidelines.
https://e621.net/wiki/show/uploading_guidelines

For curiosity's sake, why is that? As long as it's of something relevant to the site, what would be the issue with a good quality photo of a well done dragon figurine, for example? An artist interpretation or a CG render of a model would be good/relevant, but a good photo of that same model is considered bad/irrelevant? Seems a bit weird, especially considering photo manipulations are allowed.

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Watsit said:
For curiosity's sake, why is that? As long as it's of something relevant to the site, what would be the issue with a good quality photo of a well done dragon figurine, for example? An artist interpretation or a CG render of a model would be good/relevant, but a good photo of that same model is considered bad/irrelevant? Seems a bit weird, especially considering photo manipulations are allowed.

3D digital artwork is ok, but my guess as to why figures are not accepted is that it's because it's a photograph.

However:

Mairo said: "Photographs are actually allowed, but because the level of digitization quality we have is pretty high and majority will use their goddamn smartphone in bathroom lighting, it's simply easier to say that they're not and use a goddamn scanner.

Also as we offer the files as they were uploaded, we don't optimize or strip data from them like many other services do, so there are problems like with EXIF data where rotations do not apply to embed on page and pinpoint accurate GPS location data. Rarely do people know how to rotate losslessly (if they didn't shoot RAW) or scrub the personal information out."

-I've been kinda wanting to upload an image of a figure from an artist, but i'd have to make sure it's that good.

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Scope and focus. Digital furry artwork.

Technically stuff like fursuits are also relevant and do have bunch of artistic value as it requires tons of talent to make good fursuit. However at the same time, do we want to start hosting everyones con photos and selfies because of this? Inferior/superior situations start to become more subjective, because it's not the case of aiming towards closest copy of original version, but rather subjective matters of how well the photograph was taken.

I personally wouldn't mind photos of extremely high quality statues with single post, but there's just so much bigger and smaller problems with traditional drawn artwork already, I can only imagine how much worse they will get if we get to category of real life and photography. There is also good reasons why stuff like real life pornography is completely banned.

This is one of the cases of "what the hell, of course this should be acceptable" but as we do try to keep rules and guidelines consistant, it will cut away content like this. I have had people asking me why solo Princess Peach images get deleted, even though we have bunch of Princess Peach posts and it's pornographic, because for them personally they use the website like rule34 pornsite, so of course that should be accepted.

vex714 said:
3D digital artwork is ok, but my guess as to why figures are not accepted is that it's because it's a photograph.

However:

Mairo said: "Photographs are actually allowed, but because the level of digitization quality we have is pretty high and majority will use their goddamn smartphone in bathroom lighting, it's simply easier to say that they're not and use a goddamn scanner.

Also as we offer the files as they were uploaded, we don't optimize or strip data from them like many other services do, so there are problems like with EXIF data where rotations do not apply to embed on page and pinpoint accurate GPS location data. Rarely do people know how to rotate losslessly (if they didn't shoot RAW) or scrub the personal information out."

-I've been kinda wanting to upload an image of a figure from an artist, but i'd have to make sure it's that good.

Again I'm being taken out of context and this is one of the main reasons why we tell that photographs aren't allowed:
This is in context of digitizing traditional artwork and does not apply to anything else like statues and figurines. Because even if we allow traditional artwork, even with those we do require at least scanning level quality.

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Mairo said:
-Taken out of context-

Oh, apologies.

So just flat no on photos of irl statues.

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