Topic: [Bug] Lolicept artist tag takes me to the general posts page

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Maybe from a recent change in loli and shota alias? I mean lolicept does have the term loli in it.

I just get redirected to the recent posts page whenever I try to view the other stuff from the artist.

Take this one for example

Redirection if I click the artist tag.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Yeah just cloudflare being a dumb.

Oh, I see. Does it usually fix itself if you just leave it as is for a while?

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vex714 said:
Oh, I see. Does it usually fix itself if you just leave it as is for a while?

not this time, the cloudflare site seems to be dodging loli and shota making things a little bit of a pain in the ass to work with, you should be able to search the artist tag with a space in front until said time that the site can make a work around to the issue
https://e621.net/post/index/1/%20lolicept

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Versperus said:
not this time, the cloudflare site seems to be dodging loli and shota making things a little bit of a pain in the ass to work with, you should be able to search the artist tag with a space in front until said time that the site can make a work around to the issue
https://e621.net/post/index/1/%20lolicept

Oh great!

Thank you.

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MyNameIsOver20charac said:
So this is basically cloudflare trying to ditch loli/shota but not really bothering?

It's a quick, zero effort way of saying "look, we're helping" when/if someone brings it up. Kinda like google removing controversial terms/websites from the search bar and patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

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The whole cloudflare thing is probably because of the new hissyfit, "we're going to piss in your cereal" shit the UN is trying to get put into law... Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Which turns artwork into bonified child porn... Even when there is no minor involved an it's not harming anyone... even if it's furry, even if it's some goblin from WoW or whatever. It's so damn stupid!

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Esme_Belles said:
The whole cloudflare thing is probably because of the new hissyfit, "we're going to piss in your cereal" shit the UN is trying to get put into law... Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Which turns artwork into bonified child porn... Even when there is no minor involved an it's not harming anyone... even if it's furry, even if it's some goblin from WoW or whatever. It's so damn stupid!

I don't really understand these laws, not because I don't sort of get where they're trying to come from, or at least where they'd claim that they are coming from (I don't agree, mind you, but that's not even the issue here) but rather, how exactly is this sort of thing supposed to be enforced?

Like, with an actual person you can at least theoretically objectively determine their age at the time a photo was taken, but with drawn pornography, how does that work? What sort of criteria are they using to distinguish underage from of-legal-age? And if that's being applied to fantasy creatures, how is that supposed to account for differences in biology/morphology?

Like, okay, much of the world is pretty subjective, and you kind of have to deal with that if you're going to deal with other people. But the law should at least try to be objective, at least insofar as what is and isn't legal - otherwise you end up with a hilarious amount of problems as a result.

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@Clawdragons:

Sounds like the Cloudlfare thing is a big deal. I only found out about it just recently by accident.

It also sounds like people can't determine the difference between fiction and reality.

Determining age of mythological creatures is nigh impossible. We can make assumptions by the way they look, but how are people supposed to know the age of an elf? Or even a vampire? Forget it.

It's drawn. There's nothing real about it. Fantasy. Cloudflare doesn't see it that way. They'll try to enforce it by censoring some things like terminology, but I don't think it'll curtail anything.

This isn't furry 1984

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Clawdragons said:
I don't really understand these laws, not because I don't sort of get where they're trying to come from, or at least where they'd claim that they are coming from (I don't agree, mind you, but that's not even the issue here) but rather, how exactly is this sort of thing supposed to be enforced?

Like, with an actual person you can at least theoretically objectively determine their age at the time a photo was taken, but with drawn pornography, how does that work? What sort of criteria are they using to distinguish underage from of-legal-age? And if that's being applied to fantasy creatures, how is that supposed to account for differences in biology/morphology?

Like, okay, much of the world is pretty subjective, and you kind of have to deal with that if you're going to deal with other people. But the law should at least try to be objective, at least insofar as what is and isn't legal - otherwise you end up with a hilarious amount of problems as a result.

I've heard it described as the UN trying to distract the world from their own child sexual abuse issues regarding UN officials caught in the act...

As for the artwork parts.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/02/20/united-nations-looks-to-restrict-loli-and-shota-animation-could-effect-classic-works-like-stephen-kings-it-and-lolita/

That has information, the official documents are dripping with legalese so don't ask me for them, can find the originals by searching name of the optional law...

However, to quote;

‘any representation of a child engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities, regardless of the means used, or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes’. The qualification ‘by whatever means’ reflects the broad range of material available in a variety of media, online and offline. It includes, inter alia: visual material such as photographs, movies, drawings and cartoons; audio representations; any digital media representation; live performances; written materials in print or online; and physical objects such as sculptures, toys, or ornaments.

Basically they threw a net made of shit and if it sticks, it stinks. Such things as the power puff girls, sword art online alicization, ect, Stephen Kings IT, and Lolita get tossed into a murky lake with stuff like loli hentai, cub porn.
If it looks like a child it's forbidden. Even if it's a drawing of a 300 year old dragon (Kanna kamui) or a photograph of a 26 yo who looks like a kid cuz of shortness and photography tricks. It's stupid like I said lol

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@Esme Belles: read that article and I can already see all the issues with it.

"It provides a great deal of leeway for possible abuse by governments that have a poor record of protecting freedom of speech"

That is a big no no for me. To me, that sounds like: "here you guys enforce it however you please". Leading to violations of individual rights by governments where poor protection of freedom of speech exists.

So, in short, that means any video game, novel, manga, or movies that feature lolis or shotas will have to be viewed through the committees’ own lens to determine if it is, in fact, to be restricted.

Good luck. That is a lot of work. There's is just so much of it out there already. There's literally no way committees can accurately and impartially judge each piece of work on a case by case basis. Also, there is sooooo many doujins out there, just no way.

(There goes Log Horizon, No Game No Life, and even tame manga like A Brides Story)

Restricted? Well I wonder what the punishment is for people having a large sized "homework" folder of lolis. Is it left up to the UN or the territory?

One year per violation image? Pay a fine per image? Guess I'll get incarcerated for life

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Esme_Belles said:
The whole cloudflare thing is probably because of the new hissyfit, "we're going to piss in your cereal" shit the UN is trying to get put into law... Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Which turns artwork into bonified child porn... Even when there is no minor involved an it's not harming anyone... even if it's furry, even if it's some goblin from WoW or whatever. It's so damn stupid!

UN seems to be exactly like EU - a mistake that needs to be abolished as it's got too big and too mad with control.

USSR fell apart, current unions like UN and EU will eventually follow suite.

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CloudFlare: bad for VPN users, awful for Tor users, and now they are starting to break websites with keyword censorship.

But if you ditch CloudFlare and other services like it, you will be DDoSed into oblivion.

Welcome to the modern internet. A good TV replacement.

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Ah, so that explains why the Loli_dragon tag doesn't fucking work.

I understand where they are coming from in wanting to protect children, but this is a step in the wrong direction. It's basically just watching soccer moms going "But wont someone PUHLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?? *sob sob sob*".

The character is perfectly fine to search through an artist like berseepone, but the tag itself? Big no-no apparently. You're not going to be able to protect children by banning words, as bans time and time again throughout history have shown to just not bloody work.

If anything, this feels like someone decided to be purely lazy, did "something" then patted themselves on the back of a job "well done".

This is retarded to say the least.

I'm not into cub, loli or shota as I find that shit utterly vile and disgusting. But banning those words as search terms? Come on. Get your head out of your ass.

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Yakamaru said:
Ah, so that explains why the Loli_dragon tag doesn't fucking work.

I understand where they are coming from in wanting to protect children, but this is a step in the wrong direction. It's basically just watching soccer moms going "But wont someone PUHLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?? *sob sob sob*".

The character is perfectly fine to search through an artist like berseepone, but the tag itself? Big no-no apparently. You're not going to be able to protect children by banning words, as bans time and time again throughout history have shown to just not bloody work.

If anything, this feels like someone decided to be purely lazy, did "something" then patted themselves on the back of a job "well done".

This is retarded to say the least.

I'm not into cub, loli or shota as I find that shit utterly vile and disgusting. But banning those words as search terms? Come on. Get your head out of your ass.

It's basically virtue signalling. It doesn't accomplish anything, but you can pretend that you're doing something good so people can pat you on the back. Really pathetic.

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I feel like people have forgotten why laws against pedophilia exist. This has nothing to do with protecting children anymore. Loli/shota/cub-fans are just like furries: a wierd but harmless group that noone wants to be associated with. And sure it probably has an over-representation of actual serious criminals. USA has an overrepresentation of gun-violence but that doesn't mean we should ban americans from the rest of the world.

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MyNameIsOver20charac said:
I feel like people have forgotten why laws against pedophilia exist. This has nothing to do with protecting children anymore. Loli/shota/cub-fans are just like furries: a wierd but harmless group that noone wants to be associated with. And sure it probably has an over-representation of actual serious criminals. USA has an overrepresentation of gun-violence but that doesn't mean we should ban americans from the rest of the world.

Right? There's actual laws that need to be enforced instead of whiteknighting on the net over drawn images. There are real criminals out there with real issues of exploitation for their own sexual gratification. Other real global issues that need to be dealt with (ex. sex trafficking rings) not policing the net over loli shota furry images.

I suppose Cloudflare thinks those kinds of people reside within the fandom. I'm not naive. I'm sure those kinds of people do exist online. They may exist in many other places not just the furry/anime fandom or the net. You can't knock a whole fandom just because maybe an actual pedo resides within a fandom.

It's not just that, there's also damage done here. Some folks may take this as a message or a sign that anyone in these fandoms are more likely to be an irl pedo. Labeling by association is dangerous and is bound to happen because of increased instances like this. It gives people a false reason to hate on the furry/anime fandom.

I can see what they are trying to accomplish. Trying to protect against the exploitation of real children. However, these images aren't real. Omitting search terms on a furry website does nothing against the actual pedophiliacs they are supposed to catch.

Reminder that Cloudflare has in the past supported free speech (a la 8chan) but goes against its own "free speech" policy by omitting words? Like that makes sense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare

This is definitely a step in the wrong direction by Cloudflare. I do believe it is doing more damage than good.

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MyNameIsOver20charac said:
Loli/shota/cub-fans are just like furries: a wierd but harmless group that noone wants to be associated with. And sure it probably has an over-representation of actual serious criminals.

vex714 said:
However, these images aren't real. Omitting search terms on a furry website does nothing against the actual pedophiliacs they are supposed to catch.

To be fair those kinds of people do tend to attach to communities and use them to grow underground groups. Just look at what happened with zoosadism. The way I see it cub and bestiality art are both places it's theoretically okay to dip into, but you should be very careful with whom you chose to associate from those specialty areas.
I'm not really a fan of censoring the entirety of these subjects but I imagine it's far easier than having people infiltrate every private encrypted chat to root out who's into real stuff. So instead they'll choke access to the subject matter to decrease the inflow to those hidden communities. There's not really a win scenario for people who are just casual viewers.

Does anyone know if underage-focus artists have Payment Processor™️ issues yet?

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so how does one fix this?
Also kinda of a shitty thing they are doing this

Updated by anonymous

So has this actually been confirmed to be CloudFlare's doing, or are we just speculating?

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JAKXXX3 said:
So has this actually been confirmed to be CloudFlare's doing, or are we just speculating?

I mean who else could have done it? Staff seems to be just as confused about this as we are, this is way too specific to be just a bug, and only other one that would have the power to do something like this would be Cloudflare.

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hiekkapillu said:
I mean who else could have done it? Staff seems to be just as confused about this as we are, this is way too specific to be just a bug, and only other one that would have the power to do something like this would be Cloudflare.

Any other cloudflare sites that we could test on?

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Clawdragons said:
I don't really understand these laws, not because I don't sort of get where they're trying to come from, or at least where they'd claim that they are coming from (I don't agree, mind you, but that's not even the issue here) but rather, how exactly is this sort of thing supposed to be enforced?

Like, with an actual person you can at least theoretically objectively determine their age at the time a photo was taken, but with drawn pornography, how does that work? What sort of criteria are they using to distinguish underage from of-legal-age? And if that's being applied to fantasy creatures, how is that supposed to account for differences in biology/morphology?

Like, okay, much of the world is pretty subjective, and you kind of have to deal with that if you're going to deal with other people. But the law should at least try to be objective, at least insofar as what is and isn't legal - otherwise you end up with a hilarious amount of problems as a result.

That's the beauty of it all... (for the old (R) and new (L) moralists alike.. as well as all the other wannabe totalitarian nitwits) They are to be enforced how ever anybody likes, with no actual standards based in fact or reality! No victim and no crime, but surely, as we already see today, the same stigma/outrage. That is,... in practice, against anything they don't like, anything normals won't understand (see anime art style), anything someone could screech loud enough about on social media, anything that ideologue nitwits in modern (-studies) unacademia could subjectively construe as "problematic" or "oppressive".

And before anybody says something like "it probably can't be that bad".. Remember that there are already 1st-world western countries that have bans on small breasted a/o younger looking ADULT women in porn, nudity etc... because officially "it's too hard to know for sure/tell the difference".. (i.e. "that seems a lot like something the pedos might like" / "icky" / "no normal person could..." etc.)

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Esme_Belles said:

However, to quote;

Basically thought crime law. Hell, even thought in the literal sense! I don't see how with that wording it can't include thoughts and fantasies. It even has audio and written word!

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Drkfce0 said:

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Basically thought crime law. Hell, even thought in the literal sense! I don't see how with that wording it can't include thoughts and fantasies. It even has audio and written word!

That was my thoughts on it too. And I've had 1st hand experience with "thought crime" which is not hard to commit as everyone thinks differently.

So what happens if you thought that 20 yo furry looked hot, and someone comes along and says it's too small, obviously it must be a child. Well under the UN, your fucked.

The bad part is the law gives people the right to discriminate and to tell you how and what you should think and have the law say they are completely justified to do it.

Anyway, cloudflare is kind of like the mofia, pay us for protection from everyone else or your fucked and because of this they have a LOT of power over the internet.
They could ban the keyword Google, but then google would hit back. Since Loli is already a murky toxic labeled term no one but people who like that kind of artwork will really try to defend it, and if you do your aromatically labeled as a pedo, and risk being targeted by those in places of authority, so they have to keep quite to keep from being targeted. same for cub and other terms not relating to actual photography cp.

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Esme_Belles said:
That was my thoughts on it too. And I've had 1st hand experience with "thought crime" which is not hard to commit as everyone thinks differently.

So what happens if you thought that 20 yo furry looked hot, and someone comes along and says it's too small, obviously it must be a child. Well under the UN, your fucked.

The bad part is the law gives people the right to discriminate and to tell you how and what you should think and have the law say they are completely justified to do it.

Anyway, cloudflare is kind of like the mofia, pay us for protection from everyone else or your fucked and because of this they have a LOT of power over the internet.
They could ban the keyword Google, but then google would hit back. Since Loli is already a murky toxic labeled term no one but people who like that kind of artwork will really try to defend it, and if you do your aromatically labeled as a pedo, and risk being targeted by those in places of authority, so they have to keep quite to keep from being targeted. same for cub and other terms not relating to actual photography cp.

Well, there goes for moving to somewhere else.

Humanity is stupid. Let mother nature buried us all. We will rather die than living in this crapsack world.

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Munkelzahn said:
You're either with us or with the pedophiles.

I ain't a pedophile. I'm just thought that people are stupid enough to ban things because of the connections to crimes and felonies, even if it wasn't supposed to. Imagine if they banned video games because of their connections to violence.

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cerberusmod_3 said:
I ain't a pedophile. I'm just thought that people are stupid enough to ban things because of the connections to crimes and felonies, even if it wasn't supposed to. Imagine if they banned video games because of their connections to violence.

it was a sarcastic comment

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Versperus said:
it was a sarcastic comment

Yeah.
Now imagine if people are going to ban sarcastic comments because of misunderstanding.

I'm done with this mess. People need to think before they act, but they never learn. They going to repeat the same mistakes all over again just because that's how life works! Makes perfect fucking sense! The cycle will at least broke once the end is near. I know it sucks, but that's all we can do.

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I think I have the solution to this problem.

straight_shota and shotacon are aliased to shota.

https://e621.net/post?tags=shota does not work
https://e621.net/post/index/1/shota does not work
https://e621.net/post?tags=straight_shota works
https://e621.net/post/index/1/straight_shota works
https://e621.net/post?tags=shotacon works, sometimes? I think I got both behaviors.
https://e621.net/post/index/1/shotacon does not work

lolicon is aliased to loli.

https://e621.net/post?tags=loli does not work
https://e621.net/post/index/1/loli does not work
https://e621.net/post?tags=lolicon works
https://e621.net/post/index/1/lolicon does not work

A new tag could be created and aliased to loli to get it to work. The new tag can't be named lolita, I just tried that and it is also censored.

young_girl or young_female would work, as far as I can tell. Therefore, young_female should be aliased to loli right now. young_male should be aliased to shota to make it easy to remember.

(These new tags would have nothing to do with younger_female and younger_male since those imply age_difference and loli/shota can be solo.)

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Lance_Armstrong said:
I think I have the solution to this problem.

straight_shota and shotacon are aliased to shota.

https://e621.net/post/index/1/straight_shota works
https://e621.net/post?tags=shotacon works, sometimes? I think I got both behaviors.
https://e621.net/post/index/1/shotacon doesn't work

lolicon is aliased to loli.

https://e621.net/post?tags=lolicon works
https://e621.net/post/index/1/lolicon doesn't work
https://e621.net/post?tags=loli doesn't work

A new tag could be created and aliased to loli to get it to work. The new tag can't be named lolita, I just tried that and it is also censored.

young_girl or young_female would work, as far as I can tell. Therefore, young_female should be aliased to loli right now. young_male should be aliased to shota to make it easy to remember.

(These new tags would have nothing to do with younger_female and younger_male since those imply age_difference and loli/shota can be solo.)

had similar thought before, but alias' would cause the issue which is currently being experienced with the tags rendering the solution null.

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Versperus said:
had similar thought before, but alias' would cause the issue which is currently being experienced with the tags rendering the solution null.

I just reread the thread and I'm not sure what you're talking about.

For example, straight_shota works in all contexts. It completely dodges the censorship, even though all the posts are actually tagged "shota".

young_female and young_male display "No posts matched your search" instead of redirecting to https://e621.net/post/. Therefore, neither one is going to be censored.

Alternatively, we could alias loli to young_female and shota to young_male instead of the other way around.

For the OP problem, we could do: (artist)_lolicept. Not great, but it works.

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Lance_Armstrong said:
I just reread the thread and I'm not sure what you're talking about.

For example, straight_shota works in all contexts. It completely dodges the censorship, even though all the posts are actually tagged "shota".

young_female and young_male display "No posts matched your search" instead of redirecting to https://e621.net/post/. Therefore, neither one is going to be censored.

Alternatively, we could alias loli to young_female and shota to young_male instead of the other way around.

For the OP problem, we could do: (artist)_lolicept. Not great, but it works.

the issue is, as soon as you connect an alias to the new tags it would revert to the current issue that is being experienced. As the blocked keywords would than be attached to the new one transferring the issue

Peeps who are better at explaining it did so in my forum suggestion on the matter
https://e621.net/forum/show/278290

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Versperus said:
the issue is, as soon as you connect an alias to the new tags it would revert to the current issue that is being experienced

If you begin your search with "loli" or search only "loli", it is going to break. As far as we know, that will never change unless we say goodbye to CloudFlare.

If young_female was aliased to loli or vice versa, you could search young_female and it would work. That is proven by straight_shota working in place of shota (since CloudFlare's censorship is checking for "loli" or "shota" at the front of a string, which is why searching straight_shota, young loli, female loli, etc. works just fine).

It would be different from other aliases in that if you searched loli and shota like users have done for years, the search would break instead of giving you the same results as young_female and young_male. But it is a little better than what we have now.

Actually, I don't know if it would break in the case of aliasing loli -> young_female, etc. and then searching just the old tag. That might work completely but needs to be tested.

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Lance_Armstrong said:
If you begin your search with "loli" or search only "loli", it is going to break. As far as we know, that will never change unless we say goodbye to CloudFlare.

If young_female was aliased to loli or vice versa, you could search young_female and it would work. That is proven by straight_shota working in place of shota (since CloudFlare's censorship is checking for "loli" or "shota" at the front of a string, which is why searching straight_shota, young loli, female loli, etc. works just fine).

It would be different from other aliases in that if you searched loli and shota like users have done for years, the search would break instead of giving you the same results as young_female and young_male. But it is a little better than what we have now.

Actually, I don't know if it would break in the case of aliasing loli -> young_female, etc. and then searching just the old tag. That might work completely but needs to be tested.

Wonder if CloudFlare learn about this and decided to worsen the censorship algorithm (meaning that these solutions above don't work) or worse, ditch us completely? It's like they view us as nothing more than pests.

I get it, people hated something something, but come on! This is ridiculous.

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cerberusmod_3 said:
Wonder if CloudFlare learn about this and decided to worsen the censorship algorithm (meaning that these solutions above don't work) or worse, ditch us completely? It's like they view us as nothing more than pests.

I get it, people hated something something, but come on! This is ridiculous.

Cloudflare is a $5 billion company serving over 10 million sites. I can almost guarantee they don't notice anything about e621.

loli and shota are probably used on some sites hosted by Cloudflare to identify child porn. I don't know exactly why Cloudflare added filters, but I think they did it as a quick way to break links to CP without needing to figure out where it is.

As far as I know, Cloudflare has only removed two sites. The Daily Stormer in 2017, and 8chan in August. The death of 8chan could point to a coming purge, but I don't think e621 would be caught up in one.

young_female and young_male are too innocuous to be added to a filter list. It's looking for very explicit terms, like child_porn. loli* is interesting since it blocks the title of a famous novel and film.

Finally, I have another theory. Cloudflare or e621 enabled some feature such as Web Application Firewall that is blocking the keywords, and this could be disabled. But I tested Viagra and Rolex and they don't trigger anything. If someone finds a different category of blocked term, let me know.

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Lance_Armstrong said:
Cloudflare is a $5 billion company serving over 10 million sites. I can almost guarantee they don't notice anything about e621.

loli and shota are probably used on some sites hosted by Cloudflare to identify child porn. I don't know exactly why Cloudflare added filters, but I think they did it as a quick way to break links to CP without needing to figure out where it is.

As far as I know, Cloudflare has only removed two sites. The Daily Stormer in 2017, and 8chan in August. The death of 8chan could point to a coming purge, but I don't think e621 would be caught up in one.

young_female and young_male are too innocuous to be added to a filter list. It's looking for very explicit terms, like child_porn. loli* is interesting since it blocks the title of a famous novel and film.

Finally, I have another theory. Cloudflare or e621 enabled some feature such as Web Application Firewall that is blocking the keywords, and this could be disabled. But I tested Viagra and Rolex and they don't trigger anything. If someone finds a different category of blocked term, let me know.

As much as I loathe what was entailed within 8chan, you may be right about a purge. I don't think this site would get cought up in that windstorm if it ever does happen.

You can take away hate websites, but when they start taking away people's art and porn, well, that's a whole other ball game.

Have you tried childoftgenight?

https://e621.net/forum/show/278888

I'm just trying random things

Child= doesn't work
Kid= works
(Any term) and loli= works fine
Prepubescent= Nothing
Moppet= Nothing
Juvenile= two results
Youngster= nothing
Guttersnipe= Nothing

Shounen and variants= Nothing
Shoujo and variants= Nothing
Moe= Varying artists and characters
Gijinka (moe anthropomorphism)= Invalid tag

8chan= Works
Encyclopedia Dramatica= Works

I'm starting to think loli is a very special case

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google

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vex714 said:
As much as I loathe what was entailed within 8chan, you may be right about a purge. I don't think this site would get cought up in that windstorm if it ever does happen.

You can take away hate websites, but when they start taking away people's art and porn, well, that's a whole other ball game.

Have you tried childoftgenight?

https://e621.net/forum/show/278888

I'm just trying random things

Child= doesn't work
Kid= works
(Any term) and loli= works fine
Prepubescent= Nothing
Moppet= Nothing
Juvenile= two results
Youngster= nothing
Guttersnipe= Nothing

Child? Really? I mean, it's not even that bad is it? No! Let's block that too instead!

What a piece of shit. A total incompetence, I say.

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cerberusmod_3 said:
Child? Really? I mean, it's not even that bad is it? No! Let's block that too instead!

What a piece of shit. A total incompetence, I say.

No worries, we are no life nomads

Just trying to find other words that are blocked.

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vex714 said:
No worries, we are no life nomads

Just trying to find other words that are blocked.

Can't you see how unhappy we people are because of things we've dealing with?

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I don't like young_male/female being so close to younger_male/female. How about young_boy and young_girl?

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vex714 said:
You can take away hate websites, but when they start taking away people's art and porn, well, that's a whole other ball game.

Sadly, i don't think many fully understand the level of zeal this new wave of moralism is powered by. Gaming should be the wake up for everybody. (well technically the hentai loli purges should have been) It's not just loli being targeted there, or even ecchi, but full on adult characters in swimsuits. Sony themselves have begun censoring already rated games, not only in the US but in japan as well! That is japanese only games being censored to absurd levels in japan, so as not to offend western SJW types who might see them because of the internet. We aren't just talking about loli or overtly sexual stuff, but stuff like this being forced on already "T" and "M" rated games!

Japanese and US Switch and PC versions.

PS4 version

#Note that the scene is taking place on a beach!

Even more:

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/10/yuragi-sou-no-yuuna-san-ps4-screenshots-reveal-even-more-censorship/71291/
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/10/ps4-jrpg-has-fan-service-images-censored-ahead-of-release-in-japan/71230/
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/11/nora-to-oujo-to-noraneko-heart-hd-ps4-patch-heavily-censors-cg-images-switch-version-is-safe/72096/

Some might say at this point "yeah, but there is still PC".. in this new age of games becoming online store exclusives, and those stores having total control over what's allowed and not allowed.. How long could we count on that? And before anyone says "that wont happen", i'd like to point out that Steam is already censoring non-sexual, non-ecchi, non-suggestive games, in mass, that have anything to do with schools, underage (-18), underage looking (anime style art) but stated not to be, characters. It didn't even take a month after their "we aren't going to be the taste police" statement, that games and VN, but especially japanese works, started getting deleted (sometimes over and over again after everything got "cleared up") and outright banned! In some cases "E" and "T" rated games i might add!

And thanks to the outside infestation of the fandom... nobody in the faux new "gaming press/media" will utter a word about it. Any attempt to even talk about it on gaming boards or reddits, is met with a horde of shitposters showing up out of nowhere to whine about how ridiculous the concern over this is... ("it's only weeb games so who cares/good" etc) or to whine about how "annoying" it is to have to hear others talk about it.. ever! When discussion isn't closed/locked down or banned outright!

The same thing is already beginning in the anime fandom. The major anime media/press and sites are beginning to be taken over by virtue signalers, ideologues and those outright hostile to most of the fandom and industry. (or at least versions of them that fall outside their personal ideological standards, dogmas and safeplace)

Nobody has the balls to stand up to these types of moralists anymore, the fandom presses aren't on the side of the fandoms anymore. Sometimes even pushing literally scientifically and real world long-debunked theories about fiction directly affecting reality. You know, what most older gamers, comic fans and such thought we finally defeated in the early 00s. Back now, and not only applying to violence anymore, but now anything sexual/sexy/etc too.... (only in a much less clear or sensical way.. with a bunch of needed steps)

So no.. If they came tomorrow for the rest of hentai/porn, things being as they are today... Nobody of importance would say shit.. or more correctly, nobody would remain anybody, if they took a stand. They would be insta-labeled some type of "wrongthinker" (gamergatered/inceled/perverted/alt-righted/_isted/_phobed/etc) and kicked out of social and professional society. Especially over the topic of sex/porn! Groups, the masses taking a stand.. would only end up as another gamergate or case of "whiny self entitled fans" at the very best. If not outright being labeled alt-right perverts a/o incels etc.

The old moralists of the right would gladly help out the new ones of the left if it meant censoring sex/sexuality in media. In fact, it's one of the only issues in politics that you could get both sides to agree and work together on.

Once you start rolling the ball on censorship, (allowing it) it's already too late. Because in the end... hate is loli is porn is ecchi/sexy is offensive is making someone uncomfortable is in bad taste is something somebody doesn't like is anything at all..... Full stop! You don't get to pick and choose... it doesn't work like that and never has!

/rant
(sorry)

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This is getting off topic, so I'm going to go ahead and lock this.
As for the original issue reported in the OP, we will look into it.

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