Topic: Tag Alias: on_couch -> on_sofa

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Aliasing on_couch → on_sofa
Link to alias

Reason:

Sofa and couch are basically the same. Besides, "couch" is already aliased to "sofa".

EDIT: The tag alias on_couch -> on_sofa (forum #254308) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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+1 definitely makes sense, especially considering that "couch" is already aliased to "sofa"

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The idea that fainting_couch and casting_couch could become fainting_sofa and casting_sofa for the sake of tag consistency really rubs me the wrong way. Even their Wikipedia entries use 'couch'. However, suggesting that those two tags be left as-is while changing the other couch-related tags to sofa-related counterparts is no good to me either. You can't have fainting_couch and then no couch tag.

Which leads me to suggest that the couch- and sofa-related tags get aliased in the direction of sofa -> couch instead.
sofa -> couch, on_sofa -> on_couch, cum_on_sofa -> cum_on_couch
Then couch_sex, fainting_couch, and casting_couch could stay how they are.

Genjar

Former Staff

Makes sense considering that sofa and couch are already aliased.
Technically there's a difference between the two: couch has no arms (post #1519368: couch, post #2241282: sofa). But that distinction has fallen out of use, they're almost synonymous in common usage.

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genjar said:
Technically there's a difference between the two: couch has no arms (post #1519368: couch, post #2241282: sofa). But that distinction has fallen out of use, they're almost synonymous in common usage.

Oof
I'm biased towards couch due to local culture, but of course we're wrong about that in addition to refusing to acknowledge ketchup.

I prefer nuance in tagging. While they may be "basically" the same, they are not the same. I'd only be for this if on_sofa remains as a search option alongside on_couch and isn't replaced by it entirely.

ccoyote said:I prefer nuance in tagging. While they may be "basically" the same, they are not the same.

I agree with your opinion.
Even though they're already aliased, couch and sofa (should) not be the same, I think.

what's the difference, then? and what advantages to tagging and searching would there be for having them be separate tags?

genjar said:
Makes sense considering that sofa and couch are already aliased.
Technically there's a difference between the two: couch has no arms (post #1519368: couch, post #2241282: sofa). But that distinction has fallen out of use, they're almost synonymous in common usage.

ccoyote said:
I prefer nuance in tagging. While they may be "basically" the same, they are not the same. I'd only be for this if on_sofa remains as a search option alongside on_couch and isn't replaced by it entirely.

(Note: the post #2241282 example Genjar mentioned is removed, so I don't know what it was)

If the difference is only(?) the arms, could we even tell the difference in zoomed in pictures, where you can't see if there's arms? For example, can we tell if these are couches or a sofas? post #1168584 post #2408229 Plus, is it realistic to expect taggers to make this distinction? I didn't know the difference... and I'm still not sure I understand it.

There has to be a point where the distinction is so minuscule that it's meaningless, especially to the average layperson, right?

I don't see how having seperate couch and sofa tags would be useful for anything. the point of tags are searching and blacklisting, and I can't think of a single reason someone would want to search/blacklist just couch or just sofa.

the only thing I can ever see it doing would make more work for dedicated taggers in having to go through the couch and sofa searches every so often in order to deal with mistags.

strikerman said:
There has to be a point where the distinction is so minuscule that it's meaningless, especially to the average layperson, right?

I'm going to just agree for the sake of this getting some resolution and not coming back every six months.

I didn't know there was a difference either. If the difference really is just the lack or addition of arms... I'd still vote for aliasing all couch and sofa tags together. If people really want to be technical and decide there needs to be a distinction, then add an armless_furniture tag or something, that way it could encompass armless chairs and the like, too.

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