Recently someone went through all my edits and removed my tag from all but the color edits with a note "Edits like this do not get artist tags."
However I can't find anything about this in the guidelines or on the forum, so I'm not sure about the whole thing. Also how to differentiate between what does and doesn't get tagged?

Example: post #1806824 - apparently edits like this shouldn't get tagged while color edits should?

I get that someone might see tagging the editor as trying to take credit for someone elses work, but IMO that's not actually the case because tags are there to more easily find images, not to differentiate who did what on the image - and right now it's not possible to find all the images I contributed to through my tag.

Obviously the best solution would be to add a separate "Editor" category but IIRC that's not possible on e621 at the moment?

No.

Chaser said:
No.

Ok.

To go into additional detail, edits are typically posted by the individual who created that edit. My understanding of standard procedure for e621 users is to add the edit tag to a post and what the edit was in the post description. You should also always ensure that the artist approves of the edit as-it-will-be-posted due to the possibility of undesired edits prompting DNP requests, takedowns, or other responses that can have a negative impact on the reputation of the site.

If an artist asked another person to make modifications, such as creating a monochrome base and then sending it to someone else to be colored (and stating they did so in at least one first-party source), the usual procedure in my experience is to tag both the artist of the base and the artist who did the coloring. These are not edits insofar as official furthering of the original work, and crediting every party who contributed is beneficial for archival purposes.

I would like the edit wiki entry to make this distinction clearer. However, regardless of whether or not a resource explicitly states it, I would always err on the side of caution and deference and in no way attach your name to another person's base work.

Strongbird said:
To go into additional detail, edits are typically posted by the individual who created that edit. My understanding of standard procedure for e621 users is to add the edit tag to a post and what the edit was in the post description. You should also always ensure that the artist approves of the edit as-it-will-be-posted due to the possibility of undesired edits prompting DNP requests, takedowns, or other responses that can have a negative impact on the reputation of the site.

If an artist asked another person to make modifications, such as creating a monochrome base and then sending it to someone else to be colored (and stating they did so in at least one first-party source), the usual procedure in my experience is to tag both the artist of the base and the artist who did the coloring. These are not edits insofar as official furthering of the original work, and crediting every party who contributed is beneficial for archival purposes.

I would like the edit wiki entry to make this distinction clearer. However, regardless of whether or not a resource explicitly states it, I would always err on the side of caution and deference and in no way attach your name to another person's base work.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, that's all I needed to know :)

IMO we should tag editors. This makes it clear that it's not the original work. And it's plausible that users might want to see all the images edited/colored by a particular editor.

An editor category could possibly be useful. One often searches with an artist tag to find certain type of drawing style, but also concepts and ideas. Similarly, an editor is likely to have a certain kind of concepts and ideas that they apply to several different artists, and the editor's way of thinking might be something one wants to search for.

But then, I'm not sure, if this added complexity in tagging is worth it. One can also just search for the concepts and ideas by regular tags..? At which point should an editor be given credit?

As mentioned previously I think a separate editor category would be great. It works fine on Derpibooru so I think it could also work here.

I'm sure there are editors that have dozens or even hundreds of edits posted and I think that also deserves some credit.

Furthermore tagging someone separately as an editor instead of tagging several artists (like it works right now for color edits) would remove all ambiguity, and no one would be able to claim that someone is trying to take credit for their original work.

Colorization does count as collaboration and as far as I have been aware they DO count for an artist tag. Thats how its been for years so unless thats been changed without transparency to the site users then thats out and out wrong.

Editors are not tagged, we don't want users taking credit for art they didn't create or own.

Actual collaborations are a different thing entirely, both/all artists should be tagged for those.

Genjar said:
Editors are not tagged, we don't want users taking credit for art they didn't create or own.

Actual collaborations are a different thing entirely, both/all artists should be tagged for those.

^ this

I would be more than fine to tag the editor if we agreed to work in a piece together.But if someone just grabs a pic of mine and edit it without asking me to take credits, is a big no no.

blitzdrachin said:
^ this

I would be more than fine to tag the editor if we agreed to work in a piece together.But if someone just grabs a pic of mine and edit it without asking me to take credits, is a big no no.

Cool, though we already established that. How would you feel about a separate editor tag below the artist tag? Here's an example of how it could look like: https://i.imgur.com/a37K783.png

And obviously this would only apply to artist-approved edits.

AngryDraconequus said:
Cool, though we already established that. How would you feel about a separate editor tag below the artist tag? Here's an example of how it could look like: https://i.imgur.com/a37K783.png

And obviously this would only apply to artist-approved edits.

You can state who the editor is in the description.