Implicating penis_grab → grabbing
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Reason:

Grab?

Didn't we just have this discussion about gripping? It was decided that gripping was waaay too vague to be useful, and I feel like grabbing is almost identical. The main question is "grabbing what?" And I can't see a reason to ever search or blacklist just grabbing wither, since that could include grabbing a penis, a cup, the sheets, your foot, a pug, anything.

Edit: Yeah, here's that discussion. https://e621.net/forum/show/139680

Tokaido said:
Didn't we just have this discussion about gripping? It was decided that gripping was waaay too vague to be useful, and I feel like grabbing is almost identical. The main question is "grabbing what?" And I can't see a reason to ever search or blacklist just grabbing wither, since that could include grabbing a penis, a cup, the sheets, your foot, a pug, anything.

Edit: Yeah, here's that discussion. https://e621.net/forum/show/139680[/quote]

Pretty much what I was going to say. grabbing (just like gripping) is too vague and generalized to be useful. Any image under it would be better off being tagged with more specific tags about what is being grabbed, like penis_grab, ball_fondling, butt_grab, leg_grab, head_grab etc etc So that people can find it better based on what is actually happening in the image, instead of just the vague concept that something is being grabbed somewhere and somehow.

So I think grabbing should be tagged out into better tags, and then alias the tag away.

Yep, I agree with furrypickle again.

I've been cleaning up gripping, and so far haven't found anything that couldn't be tagged as one of the already existing tags. Such as penis_grab, leg_grab, forced_oral, ball_fondling, etc. Which are all a lot more descriptive and useful than 'gripping'.

Grabbing (and grab) should probably also be sorted out, then invalidated. But it's going to take a long while to get that done.

Genjar said:
Yep, I agree with furrypickle again.

I've been cleaning up gripping, and so far haven't found anything that couldn't be tagged as one of the already existing tags. Such as penis_grab, leg_grab, forced_oral, ball_fondling, etc. Which are all a lot more descriptive and useful than 'gripping'.

Grabbing should probably also be sorted out, then invalidated. But it's going to take a long while to get that done.

I can help with that again. I'll tackle grabbing first just to scratch it off the list since it's smaller. Btw, that wiki you came up with for grabbing is a beautiful thing! It's simultaneously so clear, so useful and so pretty looking that I almost want to frame it. Nicely done. A lot of times people just need a little help finding the right tags. Wikis like that are perfect for that.

Oh, guys. Mind if I ask what tag I should use if a subject uses his tail to grab something?

Wolfgang415 said:
Oh, guys. Mind if I ask what tag I should use if a subject uses his tail to grab something?

If it's an object they're holding with their tail, then use tail_hold [corrected] prehensile_tail because it has to be prehensile in order to be holding and manipulating objects. And it's a lot more commonly used than the other tag I mentioned. Sorry about that.

And then also tag with holding since they're holding an object.

If it's a penis they're stimulating with a tail then use tailjob and if they're penetrating someone with a tail then use tailsex. And if someone is grabbing someone's tail then use tail_grab.

So to answer your question, you'd want to use tail_hold [correction] prehensile_tail for that and then also tag with holding if it's an object that they're holding with their tail. Sorry about the mislead at first. I've just been staring at too many different tags today and got it crossed with a lesser known duplicate of the tag that I'd just run into earlier today. prehensile_tail is the one you want. My bad.

furrypickle said:
If it's an object they're holding with their tail, then use tail_hold because "holding"(etc) is for when they're in possession of an object. If it's a penis they're stimulating with a tail then use tailjob and if they're penetrating someone with a tail then use tailsex. And if someone is grabbing someone's tail then use tail_grab.

So to answer your question, you'd want to use tail_hold for that.

Thanks, I first used tail_grab but it was different than the others so I switched it with grabbing but it's the same, I didn't know there was a tail_hold tag.

Wolfgang415 said:
Thanks, I first used tail_grab but it was different than the others so I switched it with grabbing but it's the same, I didn't know there was a tail_hold tag.

Completely understandable. It's a big mess right now with lots of duplication/confusion between all the different forms of tags with hold, grip, grab, grope, grasp etc in them. Hopefully by the time all is said and done, it'll be a lot easier to find both tags and content. It's just still in process.

Wolfgang415 said:
Oh, guys. Mind if I ask what tag I should use if a subject uses his tail to grab something?

I've been using prehensile_tail for those (plus holding where applicaple). Since it must be prehensile if they're grabbing something with it.

Genjar said:
I've been using prehensile_tail for those (plus holding where applicable). Since it must be prehensile if they're grabbing something with it.

That's probably even better, and a lot better known too. I'd just forgotten about it. And since I'd stumbled onto tail_hold just a few hours ago, it's what came to mind first. Good catch. I'll move tail_hold into prehensile_tail.

Genjar said:
I've been using prehensile_tail for those (plus holding where applicaple). Since it must be prehensile if they're grabbing something with it.

Got it!