The tag implication #31877 robot -> cyborg has been rejected.

Reason: Only for warframe posts as warframes are not robots as they were human before being given a controlled infestation to augment their bodies by altering the structure and mind wiping them.

This means they can only be classed as cyborgs at best because they don't have any mechanical foundation or programming. The somatic link is installed in them, but this is effectively only
a telepathic control stick.

For lore confirmation:
- see "the sacrifice" quest and the vitruvian left by ballas.
- see "the sacrifice" quest scenes where Umbra is converted.
- see Excalibur Umbra, a unique frame who still has memory and free will.

EDIT: The tag implication robot -> cyborg (forum #288590) has been rejected by @Millcore.

Sure, post unmarked spoilers, why the hell not.

I agree with Violet Rose. Cyborgs are organic beings with mechanical components. Robots can sometimes have organic components attached to them (such as with Beast Wars/Beast Machines Transformers), but their essential nature is non-organic machines.

wateryumi said:
The tag implication #31877 robot -> cyborg has been rejected.

Reason: Only for warframe posts as warframes are not robots as they were human before being given a controlled infestation to augment their bodies by altering the structure and mind wiping them.

This means they can only be classed as cyborgs at best because they don't have any mechanical foundation or programming. The somatic link is installed in them, but this is effectively only
a telepathic control stick.

For lore confirmation:
- see "the sacrifice" quest and the vitruvian left by ballas.
- see "the sacrifice" quest scenes where Umbra is converted.
- see Excalibur Umbra, a unique frame who still has memory and free will.

You do realize the spoilers you posted is the exact moment when Warframe's entire theme changes and everything that was silly and fun gets made incredibly serious and dark right? Thats kind of a huge moment for Warframe players who haven't reached that chapter yet. Shame on you.

To everyone worried about spoilers I'm aware, im sorry if the sacrifice hasn't hit its year old point yet, but under the premise of DE's thoughts on the second dream and operators, I thought the quest was old enough by now, considering the new war has also started.

As for the machines with physical history debate, the infestation is biotechnology, so while it could be interpreted as machinery, I'm inclined to disagree as the same could be said of humans on a more complex level negating pre-mechanical life entirely.

Again, sorry if spoilers were too soon, and sorry for not being to active on this topic as I didn't see it getting too heated.

You are proposing an implication based solely on a single series, that would make sense if this site were entirelly dedicated to that series, but e621 is not entirelly dedicated to Warframe.

Based on how I'm reading the first post, this should've been an alias rather than an implication, but the grounds for this suggestion make no sense either. TWYS also overrides lore.

This entire thread is an absolute mess.

The tag implication robot -> cyborg (forum #288590) has been rejected by @Millcore.