For the ambiguous_penetrated tag, the wiki page for it states that it is "Used for posts depicting an ambiguous_gender character being penetrated by another character, regardless of the gender or the body form of the latter." This tag also seems to be used however for tagging ambiguously gendered characters being penetrated by non-living objects like sex toys. Is there a separate tag that is supposed to be used for cases like this, or should the wiki page for the tag be changed to include such cases in it's description?

The ambiguous_masturbation tag exists but at the time of posting has only been used two times. Should it be used in such cases, and should existing occurrences of ambiguous_penetrated being used in its place incorrectly be switched?

FoolCapped said:
For the ambiguous_penetrated tag, the wiki page for it states that it is "Used for posts depicting an ambiguous_gender character being penetrated by another character, regardless of the gender or the body form of the latter." This tag also seems to be used however for tagging ambiguously gendered characters being penetrated by non-living objects like sex toys. Is there a separate tag that is supposed to be used for cases like this, or should the wiki page for the tag be changed to include such cases in it's description?

As of this writing, many of the wiki entries for *_penetrated use identical wording with the applicable terms switched. This tracks with them being created for use alongside the *_penetrating tags to indicate who's doing what, so the wiki entries may not have had masturbation in mind as a use case when they were being written.

Logically, it would make sense for *_penetrated tags to apply whether or not there is another party involved. Of course, this would come at the cost of diluting the tags when searching for partnered sex. But as you pointed out, it's already being used that way, so there's a decent argument for changing the wiki pages to omit mention of partners.

FoolCapped said:
The ambiguous_masturbation tag exists but at the time of posting has only been used two times. Should it be used in such cases, and should existing occurrences of ambiguous_penetrated being used in its place incorrectly be switched?

There doesn't appear to be an analogous set of *_masturbation tags for gender, only the body part involved. The two posts currently using ambiguous_masturbation only had the tag added relatively recently, by the same person. Both posts were already tagged with ambiguous_penetration and a gender, so you'd have to ask them what their intent was for adding it.

seems like it would contribute little but tag bloat (topic #26153). It can be covered by some combination of ambiguous_gender, masturbation, and penetration/-penetration. It also doesn't have a pre-existing tag structure to support its meaning like *_penetrated/penetrating have, and with a name that isn't clear on its face, it would end up with subjective overlap with things like ambiguous_penetration, ambiguous_gender + masturbation, and TWYS interpretations where the relevant anatomy isn't visible.

I hadn't thought of the logistics of covering post subjects like this through the use of multiple tags but that makes perfect sense. Thank you for the in depth response!

The penetrated wikis state that these tags should be used between two characters, but this definition doesn't consider that the insertion tags were merged with the penetration tags. The definition for the penetrated tags intuitively should apply to insertions as well.

The ambiguous_masturbation tag is used to complement masturbation posts. It is for situations where it is unclear whether the masturbation is vaginal, or anal. This matches the definition of ambiguous_penetration in which it is unclear if the penetration is vaginal, or anal. These tags may overlap, because the penetration and masturbation tags overlap.