...Changed ENhibitionism to Stealth_nudity...

Exhibitionism occurs when a character reveals their naked body or their genitals to other characters and gets aroused by that.

However, many people, myself included, like something very similar, but the intent is the opposite. Arousal is achieved by doing something erotic, revealing their body, but noone must be made aware of that. As long as nobody knows, and its done in risk of getting seen, its arousing.
There are many pieces made with that concept, and they are really liked among the fandom, yet, there is no name for such a concept, so i suggest this - enhibitionism. I believe its quite fitting. Exo means outside, and endo means inside, hence ENhibitionism ( compared to EXhibitionism ).

I was advised to create a thread regarding this to hopefully start the trend of using this as a tag. Currently there is another tag that i made a wiki page for that is very similar but the name is different - hiding

Tell me what you think

This arguably could be covered by existing tag: hiding + public_nudity (+ exhibitionism?), but we might want to make a dedicated tag for it. I think calling it stealth_nudity would make sense, to be consistent with the stealth_sex and stealth_masturbation tags. Or maybe stealth_exposure, since nudity on this site usually means absolutely 100% nude, not (for example) bottomless.

crocogator said:
This arguably could be covered by existing tag: hiding + public_nudity (+ exhibitionism?), but we might want to make a dedicated tag for it. I think calling it stealth_nudity would make sense, to be consistent with the stealth_sex and stealth_masturbation tags.

Those are options i suppose. But i would really like it if there was a concrete name for this concept that would be reusable even outside this site. Besides, people only half of the time add even the basic tags, so who would expect them to add all the tags necessary to later be able to find this stuff? Though if there was just a single tag to define the concept, it would be enough and people might tag it alot more consistently

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greycore said:
Those are options i suppose. But i would really like it if there was a concrete name for this concept that would be reusable even outside this site. Besides, people only half of the time add even the basic tags, so who would expect them to add all the tags necessary to later be able to find this stuff? Though if there was just a single tag to define the concept, it would be enough and people might tag it alot more consistently

So, to be clear, are you arguing that enhibitionism works better than stealth_nudity because it's more of a "concrete name" that's more likely to catch on?

At any rate, "enhibitionism" works fine. +1 for creating a new tag, regardless of what we call it.

crocogator said:
So, to be clear, are you arguing that enhibitionism works better than stealth_nudity because it's more of a "concrete name" that's more likely to catch on?

At any rate, "enhibitionism" works fine. +1 for creating a new tag, regardless of what we call it.

I just was kinda proud of thinking of that name, thats all... Thought it would make sense. Though the important thing is that there would be a tag like that at all. And that people would use that. So as long as it exists, ill be happy no matter how its called

I thought this was going to be a thread about never nudes.

lance_armstrong said:
I thought this was going to be a thread about never nudes.

If that was the case, the name would be more along the lines of anti-exhibitionism. Anyway, do you think this is a tag that world needs?

"Enhibitionism" is too close to "exhibitionism" for my tastes. The first few times I read the title I didn't even realize it wasn't "Exhibitionism". It's also not a real word, which means people that want to tag it would have to know this site's made-up word for it. And even if you do know the word, it's a rather obscure origin; exhibit means to show or have on display, and I doubt many people associate the word with the 'exo' prefix specifically, so replacing it with the 'endo' prefix to create enhibit (itself close to inhibit, which means something else entirely) is rather obscure. stealth_nudity or stealth_exposure, on the other hand, is less obscure about its meaning. It's more likely someone looking to tag or search for it could stumble on those tags.

+1 to "enhibition" being too similar to "exhibition", I genuinely glossed over this thread the first time I read it.

greycore said:
Anyway, do you think this is a tag that world needs?

What is the likelihood of broadly introducing a new word to the English language by creating a tag on an obscure furry web site most people have never heard of?

watsit said:
"Enhibitionism" is too close to "exhibitionism" for my tastes. The first few times I read the title I didn't even realize it wasn't "Exhibitionism". It's also not a real word, which means people that want to tag it would have to know this site's made-up word for it. And even if you do know the word, it's a rather obscure origin; exhibit means to show or have on display, and I doubt many people associate the word with the 'exo' prefix specifically, so replacing it with the 'endo' prefix to create enhibit (itself close to inhibit, which means something else entirely) is rather obscure. stealth_nudity or stealth_exposure, on the other hand, is less obscure about its meaning. It's more likely someone looking to tag or search for it could stumble on those tags.

Okay, fair point.

ccoyote said:
What is the likelihood of broadly introducing a new word to the English language by creating a tag on an obscure furry web site most people have never heard of?

I wasnt going that far... If people on this site alone would use it, that would be way more than enough.

ccoyote said:
What is the likelihood of broadly introducing a new word to the English language by creating a tag on an obscure furry web site most people have never heard of?

What?

greycore said:
I wasnt going that far... If people on this site alone would use it, that would be way more than enough.

Sorry, I saw "the world needs" and misunderstood your intent. Carry on. :)

I can make a wiki for stealth_nudity, but it'll have to be sometime later (when I'm less sleepy). I'll update here once I've got a wiki drafted.

d.d.m. said:
I can make a wiki for stealth_nudity, but it'll have to be sometime later (when I'm less sleepy). I'll update here once I've got a wiki drafted.

That would be most appreciated! But what about the hiding one? As far as i know its exactly the same.

This paraphilia is usually lumped into exhibitionism, sometimes into agoraphilia (but that's more about having stealth sex in public). But it is common enough that it really should have name of its own.

And if it doesn't have a name, we could always give it one. Wouldn't be the first term that e621 has popularized. So I'd actually prefer calling it enhibitionism (as per the original suggestion) rather than something like 'stealth nudity'. Enhibitionism might get confused with exhibitionism, but since they're so closely related, it makes sense that they have similar names, no?

Alternately, I'd suggest stealth_exhibitionism (what an oxymoron). Nude is already mistagged far too often, it's best to avoid having more '*_nudity' tags that don't actually require anyone to be nude.

genjar said:
This paraphilia is usually lumped into exhibitionism, sometimes into agoraphilia (but that's more about having stealth sex in public). But it is common enough that it really should have name of its own.

And if it doesn't have a name, we could always give it one. Wouldn't be the first term that e621 has popularized. So I'd actually prefer calling it enhibitionism (as per the original suggestion) rather than something like 'stealth nudity'. Enhibitionism might get confused with exhibitionism, but since they're so closely related, it makes sense that they have similar names, no?

Alternately, I'd suggest stealth_exhibitionism (what an oxymoron). Nude is already mistagged far too often, it's best to avoid having more '*_nudity' tags that don't actually require anyone to be nude.

stealth_exhibitionism is not a bad idea. But, man, if people started using this tag, it would make my day every time i would see anyone use it. Even if its not correct... People do mistakes, but can learn from them.
Also - its awesome seeing that there are people who agree. Thanks for the support!

Guys, i think we should vote on which name it should be called... Its slowly getting out of hand.

These are the suggestions:

• enhibitionism
• steatlh_nudity
• stealth_exposure
• stealth_exhibitionism

Enhibitionism is good becouse its name is as similar as its meaning to exhibitionism.
Stealth_nudity, stealth_exposure are good becouse its more compatible with already existing tags.
Stealth_exhibitionism, while being a bit on the long side, is very self-explanatory.

However, since i came up with Enhibitionism, and i really like it, ill vote for it. Would be weird if i didnt, wouldnt it?

I think Genjar's suggestion of stealth_exhibitionism works better than my original suggestions. It's best we distance ourselves from the infamously mistagged casual_nudity and casual_exposure tags. Enhibitionism still works; it would just be less intuitive to find.

I made a set of hopefully relevant posts I found: set:enhibitionism. Let me know if this seems correct, or if there's posts that seem irrelevant. I realize I should probably define the tag first, but I tend to suck at that, so maybe this set can start a discussion on how to write the definition, or at least give us some relevant posts when we do actually tag it.

EDIT: If anybody wants to be a maintainer for the set, I can make you one

Off the top of my head, how does this work for a potential Wiki:

post #2262090 post #2281503 post #1818439 post #1260932
A form of exhibitionism where an exhibitionist exposes him or herself in a public area, but in such a way that they're unlikely to be seen. The character gets aroused by the danger of getting caught, but does not actually want to get caught due to embarrassment, legal repercussions, etc. To avoid getting caught, they may remain hidden in an alley way, behind a tree, or just stay in an area where people are unlikely to show up, etc.

See also:

• Exhibitionism
• hiding
• public_nudity/public_exposure/flashing for when the character is in sight of others
• stealth_masturbation/stealth_sex like this tag, but with masturbation or sex instead of nudity/partial nudity
• casual_nudity/casual_exposure when it's not exhibitionism, but the nudity is just considered normal

crocogator said:
Off the top of my head, how does this work for a potential Wiki:

hiding is the equivalent for the enhibitionism tag

greycore said:
hiding is the equivalent for the enhibitionism tag

The first four sentences of the hiding Wiki describe what you are saying, but the last two sentence mention voyeurism and rating:s pics:

(italics and bold added by me)

Similar to exhibitionism and hidden, but the character does not intend to reveal themselves. In fact, successfully hiding while being nude and/or performing anything erotic in a situation where the character might get seen can be a source of arousal. Unless the character is an exhibitionist, being caught may result in their embarrassment and failure to be aroused. The character might also be hiding themselves for the purpose of voyeurism or because they are in some kind of situation where they are trying to avoid embarrassment. However, in non-erotic context the character might simply be hiding to avoid being seen for that sole purpose and no arousal occurs.

So, we could probably just copy or slightly modify the italics text for the new tag, and then rewrite the hiding Wiki in a way that doesn't oddly emphasize NSFW. Then we could probably just tag much of hiding -rating:s with enhibitionism. Certainly not all of it though:

• There are some posts in hiding that probably shouldn't have the tag in the first place (covering_face, etc.)
• A lot of the posts are actually stealth_sex or stealth_masturbation. Do those count? If not, we should be careful not to tag them with enhibitionism
• It's possible for the hiding character to be fully clothed, such as in voyeurism

crocogator said:

• There are some posts in hiding that probably shouldn't have the tag in the first place (covering_face, etc.)
• A lot of the posts are actually stealth_sex or stealth_masturbation. Do those count? If not, we should be careful not to tag them with enhibitionism
• It's possible for the hiding character to be fully clothed, such as in voyeurism

1.indeed
2.Some of them do. If the character is intending to do what they do in secret, then yes.
3.Sure. What matters is that they are achieving arousal from doing naughty things in public while hidden. They may be fully clothed. They may be invisible. They may even be revealed but not spotted.

greycore said:
1.indeed
2.Some of them do. If the character is intending to do what they do in secret, then yes.
3.Sure. What matters is that they are achieving arousal from doing naughty things in public while hidden. They may be fully clothed. They may be invisible. They may even be revealed but not spotted.

I'm confused. Aren't stealth_sex and stealth_masturbation by definition "naughty", "public", "hidden", and "secret"? So wouldn't that mean stealth_sex and stealth_masturbation should imply enhibitionism by this definition? Do you have examples that don't count?

Btw, if you want to start tagging or even write the Wiki, you probably can. This thread is kind of dead, seeing how no one other than you and me have replied in over two weeks.

crocogator said:
I'm confused. Aren't stealth_sex and stealth_masturbation by definition "naughty", "public", "hidden", and "secret"? So wouldn't that mean stealth_sex and stealth_masturbation should imply enhibitionism by this definition? Do you have examples that don't count?

Btw, if you want to start tagging or even write the Wiki, you probably can. This thread is kind of dead, seeing how no one other than you and me have replied in over two weeks.

Yeah youre right. I misread or something similar happened. Alright, leave it to me then.

I did a thing. I changed the definitions for both tags (enhibitionism and hiding) and tagged a bunch of posts with my blacklist off. I most probably missed some, but there is a plentiful amount i think.

Alright, I added several posts from my set I mentioned before.

crocogator said:
Alright, I added several posts from my set I mentioned before.

Nicely done! Now, lets hope that people will use this tag. I might do some art myself with this tag in mind.

Sorry for dropping the ball with making the wikis for these tags. I've gone through and did some format/grammar edits to these wikis, and other wikis related to them. I also added enhibitionism to the 'Exhibitionism Related Tags' section in the wikis, so hopefully that will give the tag greater visibility when folks look through the wikis.

greycore said:
Nicely done! Now, lets hope that people will use this tag. I might do some art myself with this tag in mind.

I really like the term you came up with. As opposed to some of the others who replied here I think it fits the meaning very well. I think it's a good umbrella-term for anything lewd that's being done in public or in a place where one could possibly get caught, when one doesn't wish to be. It encompasses sneaky/stealthy behavior (and all the associated tags) as a whole perfectly imo. And although 'enhibitionism' looks a lot like the word 'exhibitionism' I only see mistaking the 'n' for an 'x' as something someone with dyslexia or bad sight would do. It's easy to use, and distinctive enough for me to use it as a term for my kink. So thanks :3

(also, sorry for reviving this thread so suddenly haha)