Gynomorph and dickgirl are entirely the same on this site. In reality its different. Gynomorph is a feminine character that has breasts and a dick, but has no pussy. Dickgirls however can have a pussy (hermaphrodite), but doesnt always do (gynomorph).

> So, what tags can i use to search for characters who are strictly gynomorph and not dickgirl (no pussy)?
> Is there a tag which implies that the character is a dickgirl but has no pussy where it should be visible? (I would naturally assume this tag to be 'no_pussy')

I ask this becouse id like to blacklist these posts. I also want to see gynomorphs when their existant or not existant pussy isnt visible. I can imagine that they have one.

rear_view -pussy intersex wont work becouse the post might include other characters that are not gynomorph.

If a feminine character has both a penis and a pussy, it's a herm, not gynomorph.

greycore said:
So, what tags can i use to search for characters who are strictly gynomorph and not dickgirl (no pussy)?

gynomorph

greycore said:
Is there a tag which implies that the character is a dickgirl but has no pussy where it should be visible? (I would naturally assume this tag to be 'no_pussy')

herm_(lore). It's not very well tagged, though.

gynomorph is +breasts +penis -pussy

herm is +breasts +penis +pussy

if gynomorph is tagged on a character that has a pussy than it's mistagged and if herm is tagged on a character with no visible pussy it's mistagged

greycore said:
Dickgirls however can have a pussy (hermaphrodite)

No, I'm sorry, but that is false. The term "dickgirl," in real life just as much as on here, refers to a being with breasts, a penis (with or without balls), and no pussy. Hermaphrodites do not count as dickgirls by any measure of the term. That's why the term dickgirl was invented: To cover beings who are almost herms, but lack a pussy.

jacob said:
No, I'm sorry, but that is false. The term "dickgirl," in real life just as much as on here, refers to a being with breasts, a penis (with or without balls), and no pussy. Hermaphrodites do not count as dickgirls by any measure of the term. That's why the term dickgirl was invented: To cover beings who are almost herms, but lack a pussy.

I did look for its meaning though in multiple places a while ago. And i found that its a general tag which doesnt say anything about a character having or not having a pussy. Hence it should include both.

Okay, im going to give a little example:
https://e621.net/posts/2438929?q=intersex
This is a gynomorph. Its tagged properly. And i dont want to see it.
But...
https://e621.net/posts/2439284?q=intersex
This is also a gynomorph? Couldnt she be either? I cant confirm whether she is one or not. And i would like to see these

greycore said:
I did look for its meaning though in multiple places a while ago. And i found that its a general tag which doesnt say anything about a character having or not having a pussy. Hence it should include both.

Well, then, wherever these places you looked it up on, were wrong. The intended usage of the term, from the very beginning, was "a girl with a dick instead of a pussy, a dickgirl."

jacob said:
Well, then, wherever these places you looked it up on, were wrong. The intended usage of the term, from the very beginning, was "a girl with a dick instead of a pussy, a dickgirl."

So be it. However this doesnt answer my question. I have given a little example to elaborate what im asking.

Edit: Actually, i just looked it up again... and its been changed once more. Now it says that a dickgirl is strictly a hermaphrodite... sigh

greycore said:
https://e621.net/posts/2439284?q=intersex
This is also a gynomorph? Couldnt she be either? I cant confirm whether she is one or not. And i would like to see these

Yes, it's a gynomorph. Check howto:tag_genders. Under TWYS, penis + breasts = gynomorph.
I'm not sure why you can't seem to understand that.

bitwolfy said:
Yes, it's a gynomorph. Check howto:tag_genders. Under TWYS, penis + breasts = gynomorph.
I'm not sure why you can't seem to understand that.

Its not the problem. I want to blacklist any clearly not hermaphrodite characters (they dont have a pussy, where they otherwise would and its clearly visible. Like in the first post.)

greycore said:
Okay, im going to give a little example:
https://e621.net/posts/2438929?q=intersex
This is a gynomorph. Its tagged properly. And i dont want to see it.
But...
https://e621.net/posts/2439284?q=intersex
This is also a gynomorph? Couldnt she be either? I cant confirm whether she is one or not. And i would like to see these

we can't tag stuff that we can't see. there's no way to tag the sort of Schrödinger's herm situation you describe, the same way we don't tag bust_portrait posts of female characters as "they could also be intersex, tho".

greycore said:
Its not the problem. I want to blacklist any clearly not hermaphrodite characters (they dont have a pussy, where they otherwise would and its clearly visible. Like in the first post.)

Then blacklist gynomorph. You will still be able to see herm characters - those must have both a penis and a pussy to qualify.

darryus said:
we can't tag stuff that we can't see. there's no way to tag the sort of Schrödinger's herm situation you describe, the same way we don't tag bust_shot posts of female characters as "they could also be intersex, tho".

But cant we tag it when we can see when a character doesnt have a pussy where it otherwise could be? Like in the first link?

bitwolfy said:
Then blacklist gynomorph. You will still be able to see herm characters - those must have both a penis and a pussy to qualify.

Yes, but like in the example i want to be able to see the ones like in the second link. And blacklisting gynomorph would hide them too

greycore said:
But cant we tag it when we can see when a character doesnt have a pussy where it otherwise could be? Like in the first link?

Not really, no. That would call for speculation, which isn't how it works around here.

greycore said:
But cant we tag it when we can see when a character doesnt have a pussy where it otherwise could be? Like in the first link?

the rules are tag what you see, we can't tag stuff that isn't there.

your best bet would probably be a curated set or something, but then someone would have to make that set.

jacob said:
Not really, no. That would call for speculation, which isn't how it works around here.

I think you misunderstood me. I was talking about the case when its visible that the character has no pussy even though its a feminine character.

darryus said:
the rules are tag what you see, we can't tag stuff that isn't there.

your best bet would probably be a curated set or something, but then someone would have to make that set.

I am aware of how twys works. I dont want to change any tags on a post where i cant determine the characters exact gender. I want to tag it when its clearly visible.

greycore said:
I think you misunderstood me. I was talking about the case when its visible that the character has no pussy even though its a feminine character.

We understood you just fine.
We are crossing into some weird transphobia now. Just because someone is feminine-looking does not mean that they must have a vagina.

bitwolfy said:
We are crossing into some weird transphobia now.

Where? How? What the hell does ANY OF THIS have to do with transgenderism?

greycore said:
I am aware of how twys works. I dont want to change any tags on a post where i cant determine the characters exact gender. I want to tag it when its clearly visible.

I dunno, like blacklist gynomorph perineum or something? maybe?

we can't tag the non-existance of something just as much as we can't tag the existence of something that cannot be seen.

bitwolfy said:
We understood you just fine.
We are crossing into some weird transphobia now. Just because someone is feminine-looking does not mean that they must have a vagina.

Im not saying that either. All i want to do is blacklist the posts where the character is undeniably a gynomorph and see the posts where the character could be a herm if they were drawn from another perspective.

jacob said:
Where? How? What the hell does ANY OF THIS have to do with transgenderism?

Gynomorph could be a post-op trans-woman?
What confuses you about that?

darryus said:
I dunno, like blacklist gynomorph perineum or something? maybe?

we can't tag the non-existance of something just as much as we can't tag the existence of something that cannot be seen.

I actually had used it before, but its very poorly tagged and apparently both males and females have it anyway.

bitwolfy said:
Gynomorph could be a post-op trans-woman?
What confuses you about that?

Isnt that what a gynomorph is? I dont have a strong understanding about it but i think that gynomorph = transgender (male -> female)

bitwolfy said:
Gynomorph could be a post-op trans-woman?
What confuses you about that?

Could be, yes. But isn't necessarily. And there's been nothing whatsoever to indicate GreyCore's problem with gynomorphs is "Eww, trannies," or whatever. You appear to be pulling this transphobia line completely out of thin air.

Edit: Of course he would slip in his comment giving exactly that kind of evidence while I was making that post. Still, UP UNTIL THEN, there hadn't been, so you still seemed to be jumping to conclusions, at the time.

I just wish there was a tag that would define a character that is feminine , has breasts and a dick, but could either have a pussy or not. Like i thought dickgirl was. Which, now i know, doesnt mean that.

greycore said:
I actually had used it before, but its very poorly tagged and apparently both males and females have it.

okay, than the answer is "no, there isn't any set of tags that you can blacklist that allows you to see gynomorph characters that could be herms but the area where the pussy might be is covered."

greycore said:
Isnt that what a gynomorph is? I dont have a strong understanding about it but i think that gynomorph = transgender (male -> female)

No. Gynomorph merely means "breasts and male genitalia, but no female genitalia." A character/RL person who was born with male genitalia, then developed breasts as puberty came around, would also be a gynomorph. And yes, RL people do exist where that happened. They're absurdly rare, because they only happen due to genetic mutation, but still.

darryus said:
okay, than the answer is "no, there currently isn't any set of tags that you can blacklist that allows you to see gynomorph characters that could be herms with non-visible pussies".

That sucks... But thanks for trying to help me anyway... Maybe ill make one and then spend a few hours to apply the tag. Had already done it once (if youre curious its enhibitionism)

jacob said:
No. Gynomorph merely means "breasts and male genitalia, but no female genitalia." A character/RL person who was born with male genitalia, then developed breasts as puberty came around, would also be a gynomorph. And yes, RL people do exist where that happened. They're absurdly rare, because they only happen due to genetic mutation, but still.

Huh, didnt know that. I thought that such people happen to be born this way. Thanks for the info.

Edit: just looked it up. Wiki implies that gynomorph = feminine, while andromorph = masculine.
Other sites say that too...

jacob said: ...

I know that you really enjoy arguing with people over nothing, but this is just ridiculous.
"What does gynomorph have to do with transgenderism", are you for real now.

I am not going to argue with you over this.

greycore said:
Edit: just looked it up. Wiki implies that gynomorph = feminine, while andromorph = masculine.
Other sites say that too...

E621 just has a "unique" definition of those terms, in order to avoid using what some people perceive as slurs in tags.
For all intents and purposes, gynomorph == dickgirl, and andromorph == cuntboy.

bitwolfy said:
"What does gynomorph have to do with transgenderism", are you for real now.

That's not what I said at all, but I agree, this isn't worth arguing over.

bitwolfy said:
I know that you really enjoy arguing with people over nothing, but this is just ridiculous.
"What does gynomorph have to do with transgenderism", are you for real now.

I am not going to argue with you over this.

E621 just has a "unique" definition of those terms, in order to avoid using what some people perceive as slurs in tags.
For all intents and purposes, gynomorph == dickgirl, and andromorph == cuntboy.

Ah, i see. At first i jumped to conclusions, but after i spent a minute thinking about it, it does make sense.

Gonna cut to the chase.
What you want is the blacklist line gynomorph -herm_(lore), which will hide gynomorph posts unless there's lore-tag confirmation that the character is a herm.
I imagine there are still a lot of posts without the lore tags at this point though.

Alright, thanks for the chat, but i will be going. Both of you, have a nice day. Or whatever time it is where you live.

magnuseffect said:
Gonna cut to the chase.
What you want is the blacklist line gynomorph -herm_(lore), which will hide gynomorph posts unless there's lore-tag confirmation that the character is a herm.
I imagine there are still a lot of posts without the lore tags at this point though.

Ooh. Ill try that right away.

greycore said:
Ooh. Ill try that right away.

Okay, i tried it... It has hiden almost all of them... To be fair, i could just blacklist gynomorph instead. Would have a lot more posts to see.
And this one still slipped by: https://e621.net/posts/2434908?q=intersex

magnuseffect said:
Gonna cut to the chase.
What you want is the blacklist line gynomorph -herm_(lore), which will hide gynomorph posts unless there's lore-tag confirmation that the character is a herm.
I imagine there are still a lot of posts without the lore tags at this point though.

I don't think that's quite right.
OP wants to see gynomorphs that could theoretically pass as herms, whether they are actually herms or not. Adding -herm_(lore) would only exclude cases where the character is canonically a herm, even if they are depicted as something else.

I honestly don't think that there is a good solution to this issue.

greycore said:
Okay, i tried it... It has hiden almost all of them...

It's just low implementation rates. I think the site was already over 2 million posts before the lore tags went up, and it's all reliant on users knowing source information and manually tagging every post.

And this one still slipped by: https://e621.net/posts/2434908?q=intersex

It didn't have gynomorph tagged

bitwolfy said:
Not quite.
OP wants to see gynomorphs that could theoretically pass as herms, whether they are actually herms or not. Adding -herm_(lore) would only exclude cases where the character is canonically a herm, even if they are depicted as something else.

I honestly don't think that there is a good solution to this issue.

True, but without someone going around making sure every full-visibility gynomorph post has perineum it's going to be the only way to really cut those out.
Also I might have made the subconscious assumption that they only want to see posts that are confirmed herm. When there's genital-preferences like this most people I've interacted with have been on the I don't want to see it even if it's hidden side of things, so I'm more used to approaching it from that angle. My bad.

Figured it out.
I blacklist this: intersex butt -pussy -male
gynomorph solo anus
andromorph
This means that when there is a gynomorph or a hermaphrodite, whose rear is visible, if there is no pussy, they are blacklisted. But its okay if its a male. I also blacklist andromorphs becouse they might be included and are not my thing. The second line only increases the chance the post to be blacklisted.