If there is music playing in a webm does one have to put the copywrite of the music? So let’s say there is Mr. Blue Sky playing for some reason, my assumption is that I should put the Electric Light Orchestra under copyright. If this is indeed true does this expand to more obsure pieces of music?

Technically speaking, stuff like music and voice acting counts as external information and does not normally get tagged.

bitwolfy said:
Technically speaking, stuff like music and voice acting counts as external information and does not normally get tagged.

Meh. Doesn't the same logic hold for the artist themselves?

strikerman said: Meh. Doesn't the same logic hold for the artist themselves?

Yes – for the artist, characters names, and copyrights derived from those.
But I'm not sure if the same would apply to information related to the sound / music. If the same logic was followed, then the voice actors should be tagged as well.

draccius said:
If there is music playing in a webm does one have to put the copywrite of the music? So let’s say there is Mr. Blue Sky playing for some reason, my assumption is that I should put the Electric Light Orchestra under copyright. If this is indeed true does this expand to more obsure pieces of music?

I think music copyrights should definitely be tagged. Say ELO issued a DMCA to remove everything containing their music, it'd be impossible without those tags.

They hold copyright on the music in those posts so the posts should have the copyright tag applied.

There's also use with the blacklist as well, if you dislike someone's music it makes it easier to exclude.

bitwolfy said:
Yes – for the artist, characters names, and copyrights derived from those.
But I'm not sure if the same would apply to information related to the sound / music. If the same logic was followed, then the voice actors should be tagged as well.

So let's tag them.

pup said:
I think music copyrights should definitely be tagged. Say ELO issued a DMCA to remove everything containing their music, it'd be impossible without those tags.

That should apply to commissioners and character owners too, then, wouldn't it? Something we explicitly don't tag and people have been banned for tagging (after being told to stop and continuing anyway).

watsit said:
That should apply to commissioners and character owners too, then, wouldn't it? Something we explicitly don't tag and people have been banned for tagging (after being told to stop and continuing anyway).

I'd argue that the difference here is the musician/voice actor is the one who's actually created whatever we're listening to. Commissioners and character owners don't have any 'rights', so to speak, to whatever posts happen to feature stuff that they own.

pup said:
Say ELO issued a DMCA to remove everything containing their music, it'd be impossible without those tags.

I've been led to believe legal DMCA requests require specific itemisation and page addresses anyway. You can't just say i dmca u and have it work the same as an e6 Takedown Request.
I think I'm in favour of music having artist tags though, but I wouldn't go so far as to advocate including the entirety of the Corporate Music Copyright Trees.

As for voice actors, isn't voice acting usually considered a component of a finished work, rather than anything that would justify artist-level credit? Compared with the music question, artist-tag-crediting VAs would be more like artist-tag-crediting all members of a band for their individual contributions.

magnuseffect said:
Compared with the music question, artist-tag-crediting VAs would be more like artist-tag-crediting all members of a band for their individual contributions.

But we do tag every artist who contributed to a post (initial sketch, coloring, adding audio, etc.)

strikerman said:
But we do tag every artist who contributed to a post (initial sketch, coloring, adding audio, etc.)

For official collabs. Though when it's published under a single name, it's tagged with just that name. For example, Blotch is its own artist tag, and those posts don't normally also get tagged with Black Teagan or Kenket even though it was those two who created the art (sometimes one, sometimes both).

Similarly, comics will often have a separate person or people to do the planning, plot writing, and dialog separate from the artwork, but it's typically just the artist that gets tagged.

There's gonna be a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqfQMhnfAk8

Has TWYS been violated so badly that we're inlcuding stuff you can only hear!?

I'm joking. I'm for tagging the artist of the music

I'm for it. If nothing else it'll be advanced warning before I get my eardrums assaulted by shitty pop music.