Topic: Question about needing permission to post edits

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A friend of mine named Snowmeowth has made a few edits that uses components from other artists that he wants to post on Inkbunny. I don't know 100% what he does to makes his edits, but it seems to involve some tracing and cropping legs and arms to make the edits. Here's some examples where he used work from Lockworkorange and BGN (NSFW) https://pregchan.com/f/src/1613344998320-1.png https://pregchan.com/f/src/1613528033480-1.png

Basically, does his edits need permission from the artists, and if he does, what changes would Snowmeowth need to make so that permission is no longer needed?

Firstly, why are you asking on e6 for posting permissions when this is in regards to Inkbunny?

Secondly, https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/ACP#Derivative_Works
Yes, you will always need the artist's permission to post edits of their work, and the edits need to be "sufficiently unique to be considered a new creation."
If you don't want to ask for permission every time, create your own work without copying/tracing off other people's.

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thegreatwolfgang said:
Firstly, why are you asking on e6 for posting permissions when this is in regards to Inkbunny?

Secondly, https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/ACP#Derivative_Works
Yes, you will always need the artist's permission to post edits of their work, and the edits need to be "sufficiently unique to be considered a new creation."
If you don't want to ask for permission every time, create your own work without copying/tracing off other people's.

Already tried asking on Inkbunny and got no answer, and I thought asking here was worth a try. I did check their wiki but it didn't quite answer my question as "sufficiently unique to be considered a new creation" is pretty vague and subjective.

jackxano said:
Already tried asking on Inkbunny and got no answer, and I thought asking here was worth a try. I did check their wiki but it didn't quite answer my question as "sufficiently unique to be considered a new creation" is pretty vague and subjective.

If the rules require permission, you ask for permission, and get no answer, I figure the correct course of action is pretty clear.

lafcadio said:
If the rules require permission, you ask for permission, and get no answer, I figure the correct course of action is pretty clear.

If the rules just said you need permission no matter what, then yes, that would've been clear. But this line "The works you create using portions of other artists' work must be sufficiently unique to be considered a new creation" gives me the impression that if the edit is unique enough, not sure how unique, permission is then no longer needed. That is why I'm asking if it is possible to make edits and not need permission or if I'm misinterpreting the rules.

jackxano said:
If the rules just said you need permission no matter what, then yes, that would've been clear.

They do say that. There are two cases listed, each with two criteria, and in either case you have to meet both criteria. There is nothing in the text to support your interpretation.

To go full pedant: It is unclear to me whether recolors and shading are supposed to be a subcase of "using portions of other artists' work" or a separate case, but it doesn't matter because the criteria are essentially the same: permission and transformative effort. It's also unclear whether there's meant to be a difference between receiving permission in the first case and being given permission directly in the second. Again, not actually relevant to this thread.

deleuzian_cattery said:
They do say that. There are two cases listed, each with two criteria, and in either case you have to meet both criteria. There is nothing in the text to support your interpretation.

To go full pedant: It is unclear to me whether recolors and shading are supposed to be a subcase of "using portions of other artists' work" or a separate case, but it doesn't matter because the criteria are essentially the same: permission and transformative effort. It's also unclear whether there's meant to be a difference between receiving permission in the first case and being given permission directly in the second. Again, not actually relevant to this thread.

Then I guess I must've been desperate to think that. Oh well. At least it did answer my question.

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