Topic: [APPROVED] 'outdoor_sex' BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #1050 is active.

create alias outdoor_sex (5) -> outside_sex (13582)

Reason: Aliasing synonymous tags to outdoor_sex (derived from topic #29999 and topic #30000). Let me know if aliasing these to outdoor_sex is fine, or if folks would prefer these tags aliased to outside_sex.

Edits

EDIT: The bulk update request #1050 (forum #312489) has been approved by @slyroon.

Updated by auto moderator

Is there much point having this tag vs just searching outside sex?

I can't really see it returning many false positives compared to other tag pairs and it would provide many more results (over 20,000) than the currently undertagged outside_sex tag (less than 800)

I'm not sure. My guess is that outside_sex is largely being utilized due to 'sex taking place in an outdoors setting' being a fairly popular kink. It could also be a slightly convenient way to add outside and sex to a post via a single tag (if someone is using the Quick Tags when editing a post), as well as searching for 1 tag instead of 2. But these advantages might not be significant enough to be worth keeping, and as you point out searching for outside + sex currently returns a much larger quantity of results. It could become more useful in the future, but admittedly the current practical advantages of the outside_sex tag are fairly small.

Edit: Also (if this tag is kept), I'm unsure whether outdoor_sex or outside_sex should be the name utilized for this tag.

d.d.m. said:
create alias outside_sex -> outdoor_sex
create alias outdoors_sex -> outdoor_sex
...

I would say alias to outside_sex instead.

nature wiki links to outside,
and outdoors and outdoor currently alias to outside.

168,811 posts tagged with outside.

EDIT:
*out*side* tags that involve outside/outdoor:
1 ) 138 . . . looking_outside
2 ) 5 . . . nude_outside
3 ) 168811 . . . outside
4 ) 2 . . . outside_looking_in
5 ) 1 . . . outside_masturbation
6 ) 2 . . . outsides (re-tag as outside?)
7 ) 882 . . . outside_sex
8 ) 1 . . . pointing_outside
9 ) 15 . . . snowing_outside


more *out*side* tags (UNSURE of relevance)
a) 4 . . . onoutside (possibly typo of outside : post #1470005 and child-posts)
b) 2 . . . out_side (post #1562649 looks like outside. post #753632 looks like inside a bathroom or outhouse.)
c) 1 . . . outsidebanthro (typo of outside_anthro ??)

other *out*side* tags (not outside/outdoor)
1) 3 . . . cumming_outside (tag as cumshot instead)
2) 8 . . . dead-outside (ARTIST tag)
3) 7 . . . harmony_(nekinu_the_outsider) (character tag)
4) 7 . . . melody_(nekinu_the_outsider) (character tag)
5) 22 . . . nekinu_the_outsider (artist tag)
6) 1374 . . . outside_border
7) 1 . . . outsider020 (artist tag)
8) 1 . . . outsider_(artist)
9) 1 . . . outsider_(dishonored) (character tag)
10) 1 . . . outsider_yun (artist tag)
11) 5 . . . tail_outside_mouth
12) 3 . . . underwear_on_the_outside

Updated

I've updated the BUR to have the tag be outside_sex instead, to keep with the format of utilizing outside for tag names. If folks feel differently about this, I can edit the BUR to change it back to outdoor_sex.

d.d.m. said:
I've updated the BUR to have the tag be outside_sex instead, to keep with the format of utilizing outside for tag names. If folks feel differently about this, I can edit the BUR to change it back to outdoor_sex.

I personally think outdoor_sex sounds better than outside_sex. If being consistent with other outside tags is deemed more important, though, I won't argue it.

watsit said:
I personally think outdoor_sex sounds better than outside_sex.

I agree. "Outdoor sex" is pretty unambiguous in its meaning, while "outside" is just the opposite of "inside" (e.g. "think outside the box"). "Outside sex" sounds like it could refer to non-penetrative sex instead, especially if you speak English as a second language.

jockjamdoorslam said:
I agree. "Outdoor sex" is pretty unambiguous in its meaning, while "outside" is just the opposite of "inside" (e.g. "think outside the box"). "Outside sex" sounds like it could refer to non-penetrative sex instead, especially if you speak English as a second language.

This seems like a good point. If we’re focusing on what sounds the best, I’ll argue for sex_outdoors instead, as well as changing outside_masturbation to masturbating_outdoors and nude_outside to outdoor_nudity. Those last two are so underutilized, however, it may not be worth bothering with them.

Ok. After reflecting about this BUR, I came to the conclusion that this is not a good idea. First of all, outside_sex in the current way people are using it is useless. They are basically going through posts with outside sex and tagging outside_sex.

They don't seem to realize that the outside and inside tag are based on VIEWPOINT. The way this tag should be used is when the action of sex is happening in a location that differs from the outside and inside tags.

So we can have posts that have their viewpoints from the inside, but sex is happening outside. inside + outside_sex.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find some good examples, the closest were:

post #500294 The viewpoint is from inside (a house?), but sex is happening outside: inside + outside_sex.

post #2046869 This is just to help visualize what I'm saying, but if the characters were more outside the cave and the viewpoint stayed the same, it could be tagged as: inside + outside_sex.

IMAGINATION

Think of a character standing besides a window of his house, your viewpoint is close to his and he's seeing people having sex outside his window. Or there's people having sex on top of the car at the front and the viewpoint is inside the car. In these cases if people tag as outside_sex it would wrongfully also tag it as outside when in reality it's inside, because the viewpoint is from inside the house/ the car.

And we can have posts that have a viewpoint from outside but sex is happening inside: outside + inside_sex.

post #2094173 Viewpoint is from outside the car, but sex is inside the car: outside + inside_sex.

post #1632583 Viewpoint is from outside, but sex is happening inside this building: outside + inside_sex.

That said, -1 for this BUR from me.

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