Topic: [REJECTED] Tag implication: warg -> norse_mythology

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Not sure about this one.
Wargs originate from the norse mythology, but they are not limited to it nowadays. There are wargs in D&D, LOTR, and so on. Hell, there are wargs in Game of Thrones, where it has nothing to do with canines at all.

As far as tagging goes, it seems to be used interchangeably with just wolf, not necessarily in reference to the norse mythology.

bitwolfy said:
Not sure about this one.
Wargs originate from the norse mythology, but they are not limited to it nowadays. There are wargs in D&D, LOTR, and so on. Hell, there are wargs in Game of Thrones, where it has nothing to do with canines at all.

As far as tagging goes, it seems to be used interchangeably with just wolf, not necessarily in reference to the norse mythology.

Normally I’d just say that the other versions are probably just derivatives of the original mythological creature, and thus the original mythology should be credited as the inspiration. However, as far as I can tell, this is just a big wolf, and they can’t really be distinguished in any way other than size, which is usually not relevant in artwork anyway, especially when anthropomorphized, since they can become any size when doing that. The question for me is whether or not we should keep the tag at all. Can a warg be distinguished according to TWYS at all, in any circumstance, from any other wolf?

Genjar

Former Staff

Yeah, this seems problematic.
- Wargs are not associated with Norse mythos. Fenris, for instance, is always listed as a wolf everywhere — not as a warg. Even Wikipedia lists Tolkien as the source for the modern usage. While some mythological creatures are implicated, it's usually only done for species that are associated with that mythology, such as Greek for minotaur. And 'Vargr' is literally just Old Norse for generic 'wolf'. Tolkien's the one who made them big wolves.
- As scaliespe pointed out, they're visually indistinguishable from big wolves. Various games also have 'dire wolves' (not to be confused with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf), which are identical to Wargs.
- Not sure why some of the posts even tagged as Warg. Many of the anthros in particular look like regular wolves. Doesn't work by twys.

Either alias warg to wolf, or keep it as a collective tag for wargs and dire wolves — the ones that can be identified as such. But no implication to Norse.

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