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Topic: [REJECTED] Tag implication: standing_doggystyle -> standing_sex

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Genjar

Former Staff
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The name of this tag seems rather odd. It doesn't have much to do with actual doggystyle (it's just standing_sex + from_behind), which runs the risk of posts getting mistagged as doggystyle. The exclusion of prison_guard_position is also odd, since that position is close to what I'd call 'standing doggystyle'. This needs rethinking/clarification. And someone could probably come up with a better name for this tag.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Going back to my concerns raised on topic #30208, being in that position does not necessarily mean that sex is involved, such as the case with imminent_sex and after_sex posts.

Sex position tags are strictly for sex, hence the implications to sex. Use various other tags for posts that don't contain sex, such as grabbing_from_behind, on_top, etc.

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genjar said:
Sex position tags are strictly for sex, hence the implications to sex. Use various other tags for posts that don't contain sex, such as grabbing_from_behind, on_top, etc.

That is clearly not the case based on the various examples presented in the thread mentioned earlier (topic #30208).
There are many posts that show characters is said position without the presence of sex. Is this a case of mass mistags?

I would say that this would need to be addressed first (i.e., Do all sexual position tags require sex to be actively in progress?), have the wiki rewritten to mention it's only used in cases of sex, and then requesting a BUR for most (if not all) sex positions to be implied to sex.

thegreatwolfgang said:
That is clearly not the case based on the various examples presented in the thread mentioned earlier (topic #30208).
There are many posts that show characters is said position without the presence of sex. Is this a case of mass mistags?

Personally, honestly, yeah.

Genjar

Former Staff
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thegreatwolfgang said:
There are many posts that show characters is said position without the presence of sex. Is this a case of mass mistags?

Yep, mistags. The sex implications are there for a reason (see the main position tags such as missionary_position). If it's not taggable as sex, it's not taggable with a sex position either.
There's just been tons of position tags added recently (some of them of questionable validity) that the implications haven't caught up yet.

There should be zero hits under *_position -rating:e. There's a tagging project for someone. (Don't forget to untag sex too if the position needs removal.)

Bringing up a point from the other thread:

Should romantic posts be considered for the *_position tags (particularly when they are still clothed)?

Yes, if it's taggable as sex. Penetration is not required (f/f being most common example of that). And sex can be one-sided, with just one character getting off on it. Someone humping a clothed character is still 'sex'.

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strikerman said:
Personally, honestly, yeah.

genjar said:
Yep, mistags. The sex implications are there for a reason (see the main position tags such as missionary_position). If it's not taggable as sex, it's not taggable with a sex position either.
There's just been tons of position tags added recently (some of them of questionable validity) that the implications haven't caught up yet.

If that is the case, all *_position wikis should mention this is an Explicit tag. Only to be used in conjunction to sex.

There should be zero hits under *_position -rating:e. There's a tagging project for someone. (Don't forget to untag sex too if the position needs removal.)

You might want to check under imminent_sex and after_sex as well.

As well as consider characters interacting with inanimate objects, since masturbation is not considered sex (e.g., a character fucking a life-size doll/replica of someone is considered masturbation and should not be tagged with *_position since it's technically not sex.)

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genjar said:
Bringing up a point from the other thread:
Yes, if it's taggable as sex. Penetration is not required (f/f being most common example of that). And sex can be one-sided, with just one character getting off on it. Someone humping a clothed character is still 'sex'.

Not when it tagged with imminent_sex or after_sex.

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A perfect example of the inherent problem that I am trying to raise with the *_position -> sex implications:

16:9 2021 animal_genitalia anthro anthro_on_feral bestiality black_hair blue_body blue_scales claws darius_(anotherpersons129) detailed_background dragon duo erection european_mythology feral feral_on_top french_kissing from_front_position frottage furniture genital_slit genitals glowing glowing_genitalia glowing_penis green_body green_scales hair hand_on_chest hand_on_face hi_res horn inside intraspecies intraspecies_bestiality kissing larger_feral larger_male lying male male/male male_on_anthro male_on_bottom male_on_feral male_on_top membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings missionary_position mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nirion nude on_back on_bottom on_sofa on_top penile penis pink_penis pink_tongue plant plant_pot potted_plant reptile ridged_penis scales scalie sex size_difference smaller_anthro smaller_male sofa tail tan_body tan_scales the_gentle_giant tongue tongue_out western_dragon white_body white_scales widescreen wings yellow_eyes yellow_penis yellow_tongue
- Technically cowgirl_position, but it cannot be tagged as such because it is imminent_sex.
16:9 2021 anal anal_penetration animal_genitalia anthro anthro_on_bottom anthro_on_feral anthro_penetrating anthro_penetrating_feral bestiality black_hair blue_body blue_scales claws darius_(anotherpersons129) detailed_background dominant dragon duo erection european_mythology eyes_closed feral feral_on_top feral_penetrated french_kissing from_front_position furniture genital_slit genitals glowing glowing_genitalia green_body green_scales hair hand_on_chest hand_on_face hand_on_partner's_chest hi_res horn inside intraspecies intraspecies_bestiality kissing larger_feral larger_male larger_penetrated lying male male/male male_on_anthro male_on_bottom male_on_feral male_on_top male_penetrated male_penetrating male_penetrating_male membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nirion nude on_back on_bottom on_sofa on_top penetration penile penile_penetration penis penis_in_slit pink_penis pink_tongue plant plant_pot potted_plant reptile reverse_missionary_position scales scalie sex size_difference slit_penetration slit_play small_dom_big_sub small_top_big_bottom smaller_anthro smaller_male sofa tail tan_body tan_scales the_gentle_giant tongue tongue_out western_dragon white_body white_scales widescreen wings yellow_eyes yellow_tongue
- Can be tagged with cowgirl_position and sex.
16:9 2021 after_sex animal_genitalia anthro anthro_on_feral bestiality big_penis black_hair blue_body blue_scales bodily_fluids claws cum cum_drip cum_on_belly cum_on_body cum_on_leg cum_on_own_belly cum_on_own_leg cum_on_own_penis cum_on_penis cum_on_self darius_(anotherpersons129) detailed_background dragon dripping duo erection european_mythology excessive_cum excessive_genital_fluids eyes_closed feral feral_on_bottom feral_on_top french_kissing from_front_position frottage furniture genital_fluids genital_slit genitals glowing glowing_genitalia glowing_penis green_body green_scales hair hand_on_chest hi_res horn inside intraspecies intraspecies_bestiality kissing larger_feral larger_male lying male male/male male_on_anthro male_on_bottom male_on_feral male_on_top membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings messy missionary_position mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nirion nude on_back on_bottom on_sofa on_top open_mouth orgasm_from_frottage penile penis penis_size_difference pink_penis pink_tongue plant plant_pot potted_plant reptile ridged_penis scales scalie sex size_difference smaller_anthro smaller_male sofa tail tan_body tan_scales the_gentle_giant tongue tongue_out western_dragon white_body white_scales widescreen wings yellow_penis yellow_tongue
- Technically cowgirl_position, but it cannot be tagged as such because it is after_sex.

The characters never changed their positions in these three posts, and we are to assume that for the sake of tradition, all *_position tags inherently needs to involve sex.

Note: Another problem I just realised is that imminent_penetration is aliased with imminent_sex, but penetration is kept separate from sex.

Genjar

Former Staff
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thegreatwolfgang said:

16:9 2021 animal_genitalia anthro anthro_on_feral bestiality black_hair blue_body blue_scales claws darius_(anotherpersons129) detailed_background dragon duo erection european_mythology feral feral_on_top french_kissing from_front_position frottage furniture genital_slit genitals glowing glowing_genitalia glowing_penis green_body green_scales hair hand_on_chest hand_on_face hi_res horn inside intraspecies intraspecies_bestiality kissing larger_feral larger_male lying male male/male male_on_anthro male_on_bottom male_on_feral male_on_top membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings missionary_position mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nirion nude on_back on_bottom on_sofa on_top penile penis pink_penis pink_tongue plant plant_pot potted_plant reptile ridged_penis scales scalie sex size_difference smaller_anthro smaller_male sofa tail tan_body tan_scales the_gentle_giant tongue tongue_out western_dragon white_body white_scales widescreen wings yellow_eyes yellow_penis yellow_tongue
- Technically cowgirl_position, but it cannot be tagged as such because it is imminent_sex.
16:9 2021 after_sex animal_genitalia anthro anthro_on_feral bestiality big_penis black_hair blue_body blue_scales bodily_fluids claws cum cum_drip cum_on_belly cum_on_body cum_on_leg cum_on_own_belly cum_on_own_leg cum_on_own_penis cum_on_penis cum_on_self darius_(anotherpersons129) detailed_background dragon dripping duo erection european_mythology excessive_cum excessive_genital_fluids eyes_closed feral feral_on_bottom feral_on_top french_kissing from_front_position frottage furniture genital_fluids genital_slit genitals glowing glowing_genitalia glowing_penis green_body green_scales hair hand_on_chest hi_res horn inside intraspecies intraspecies_bestiality kissing larger_feral larger_male lying male male/male male_on_anthro male_on_bottom male_on_feral male_on_top membrane_(anatomy) membranous_wings messy missionary_position mythological_creature mythological_scalie mythology nirion nude on_back on_bottom on_sofa on_top open_mouth orgasm_from_frottage penile penis penis_size_difference pink_penis pink_tongue plant plant_pot potted_plant reptile ridged_penis scales scalie sex size_difference smaller_anthro smaller_male sofa tail tan_body tan_scales the_gentle_giant tongue tongue_out western_dragon white_body white_scales widescreen wings yellow_penis yellow_tongue
- Technically cowgirl_position, but it cannot be tagged as such because it is after_sex.

frottage is sex, no 'imminent' or 'after' about either of those. If the characters are still having sex, it's not after sex. And imminent sex doesn't apply if they're already doing it.

I could maybe see tagging the last one as after sex, in addition to sex. But it could just as well be round two, since there's to indicator that they've stopped.

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genjar said:
frottage is sex, no 'imminent' or 'after' about either of those. If the characters are still having sex, so it's not after sex. And imminent sex doesn't apply if they're already doing it.

I could maybe see tagging the last one as after sex, in addition to sex. But it could just as well be round two, since there's to indicator that they've stopped.

That's far from the actual point. If I set the characters further apart a bit to not let their genitals touch, it would still be imminent_sex or after_sex.

This is another (more proper) example, tagged with from_front_position and subsequent imminent_sex, sex, & after_sex variations.

alien armor big_penis blush bodily_fluids breath clitoris clothed clothing cowgirl_position detailed_background dominant dominant_female duo english_text erection fangs female flat_chested foreskin from_front_position genital_fluids genitals gun halo_(series) hi_res holding_gun holding_object holding_ranged_weapon holding_weapon human human_on_humanoid humanoid imminent_sex interspecies long_penis male male/female mammal mandibles microsoft needle_rifle nervous on_bottom on_top panting partially_clothed penis pubes purple_body purple_eyes pussy questionable_consent ranged_weapon retracted_foreskin roadiesky sangheili scar sex shaking submissive submissive_male sweat teeth text thick_penis trembling unconvincing_armor vaginal_fluids vami'nadom weapon xbox_game_studios
alien armor big_penis blush bodily_fluids breath clitoris clothed clothing cowgirl_position detailed_background dominant dominant_female duo english_text erection fangs female flat_chested from_front_position genital_fluids genitals gun halo_(series) hi_res holding_gun holding_object holding_ranged_weapon holding_weapon human human_on_humanoid human_penetrating humanoid interspecies looking_pleasured male male/female mammal mandibles microsoft moan narrowed_eyes needle_rifle nervous on_bottom on_top one_eye_closed panting partially_clothed penetration penis profanity pubes purple_body purple_eyes pussy questionable_consent ranged_weapon roadiesky sangheili scar sex shaking submissive submissive_male sweat teeth text thick_penis unconvincing_armor vaginal vaginal_fluids vaginal_penetration vami'nadom weapon xbox_game_studios
after_sex alien armor blush bodily_fluids breath clitoris clothed clothing cowgirl_position cum cum_in_pussy cum_inside detailed_background dominant dominant_female duo english_text fangs female flat_chested foreskin from_front_position genital_fluids genitals grin gun half-erect halo_(series) hi_res holding_gun holding_object holding_ranged_weapon holding_weapon human human_on_humanoid humanoid imminent_sex interspecies long_penis looking_pleasured male male/female mammal mandibles microsoft narrowed_eyes needle_rifle nervous on_bottom on_top one_eye_closed panting partially_clothed penis profanity pubes purple_body purple_eyes pussy questionable_consent ranged_weapon retracted_foreskin roadiesky sangheili scar sex shaking smile submissive submissive_male sweat teeth text thick_penis unconvincing_armor vaginal vaginal_fluids vami'nadom weapon xbox_game_studios

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