Topic: Tagging of Twitter, Patreon, DeviantArt logos: [website name]_logo as well as [website name]?

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

The [website_name]_logo tags currently vary widely in usage. patreon_logo is by far the most-used *_logo tag, with 4k images. In comparison, deviantart_logo is currently only used on four versions of one image, facebook_logo has only three uses, and tumblr_logo only two!

This lack of usage of these *_logo tags prompted me to wonder if we should be using them more, and how to do so correctly. Or if we should discourage the use of *_logo entirely, and stick to just the website names alone.

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furboz is an example of an artist who puts the Newgrounds, Twitter, Patreon (and on some older images, DeviantArt) logos next to the artist_name on most of their images.

Ideally, should all those images contain the newgrounds, newgrounds_logo, twitter, twitter_logo, patreon, patreon_logo, deviantart and deviantart_logo tags - as well as artist_name and patreon_username?

(Also, I think Furboz's own circular symbol at the bottom-right of most images qualifies as both a signature and an artist_logo - correct?)

2.

I noticed that patreon_logo implies patreon, but the other [website name]_logo tags do not imply [website name]. For consistency, shouldn't they all have [website_name]_logo -> [website_name] implications?

3.

Several wiki pages (Meta: artist name and the related wiki pages character_name, commissioner_name, copyright_name, species_name) contain a See Also list with some *_logo examples:

  • logo
    • copyright_logo
      • e621_logo
      • furaffinity_logo
      • inkbunny_logo
      • patreon_logo

Should twitter_logo, deviantart_logo, newgrounds_logo, tumblr_logo, facebook_logo, instagram_logo (and others...?) be added to that list on all those wiki pages? Adding those *_logo tags to the wiki might lend them legitimacy and so help encourage people to use them!

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A potential problem with adding the twitter tag to everything that contains a tiny little Twitter logo in the corner is that it could make it more difficult to find *only* those images that reference Twitter in dialogue or layout, such as the ones below:

post #2892142 post #2744246 post #2815647 post #2802319

More widespread and consistent use of the twitter_logo would be helpful in this case, because you could do a search like "twitter -twitter_logo" to help find most of the ones like that.

5.

Looking through the twitter tag, it looks like some images only have them because Twitter was used as the source of the image/description text:

post #2836788 post #2868282

And these seem to only have it because the jack-o'_pose meme was spread via Twitter:

post #2903891 post #2905254 post #2896017

Just to clarify: those five images should *not* have the twitter tag, correct?

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chemistrynoisy said:
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Ideally, should all those images contain the newgrounds, newgrounds_logo, twitter, twitter_logo, patreon, patreon_logo, deviantart and deviantart_logo tags - as well as artist_name and patreon_username?

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I noticed that patreon_logo implies patreon, but the other [website name]_logo tags do not imply [website name]. For consistency, shouldn't they all have [website_name]_logo -> [website_name] implications?

If the logo of the site's there then it should have X_logo, which should imply the tag for the site's name as well.

chemistrynoisy said:
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Should twitter_logo, deviantart_logo, newgrounds_logo, tumblr_logo, facebook_logo, instagram_logo (and others...?) be added to that list on all those wiki pages? Adding those *_logo tags to the wiki might lend them legitimacy and so help encourage people to use them!

It could help, though I'm not sure how much people check there. I'd say maybe just the most common ones should be in that list.

chemistrynoisy said:
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A potential problem with adding the twitter tag to everything that contains a tiny little Twitter logo in the corner is that it could make it more difficult to find *only* those images that reference Twitter in dialogue or layout, such as the ones below:
[..]

More widespread and consistent use of the twitter_logo would be helpful in this case, because you could do a search like "twitter -twitter_logo" to help find most of the ones like that.

I think it's more a problem of not having X_logo being tagged as much, as you said. Though the tag for the site is only meant to be for the site's appearance and the logo, a post just saying "twitter" shouldn't have the tag, so the first and last posts shouldn't be tagged with them.

As a side note, I was thinking of tagging slurs and offensive words with x_(word) with my bot, I'm just waiting for OCR software to finish making a database of text in posts, which is taking a while. I just thought I could always add things like twitter_(word) as well for situations like this, but not sure if that's too much. I don't want to fill the tags with x_(word) variants but it'd be nice to be able to search general post content.

chemistrynoisy said:
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Looking through the twitter tag, it looks like some images only have them because Twitter was used as the source of the image/description text:
[..]
Just to clarify: those five images should *not* have the twitter tag, correct?

Yep, there's lots of posts that shouldn't have the tag, the most common one I've seen is Patreon content getting the site's tag when there's no logo or site there. That and animations getting them for the software they were created with when they don't actually show the Blender/SFM UI for example.

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