A while back I used to like cub porn. I don't know how I could have ever liked the stuff, I blame it on being a horny teen who didn't know any better.

I have a theory that at a young age I was exposed to the Japanese kemono aesthetic and unfortunately that has a lot of overlap with cub content. It was more about the look of it, that "cute" aesthetic, and I honest to God thought it was miniature adults. If it was explicitly or intended to be minors then all bets were off.

Yet throughout all of this, I never experienced any real-life pedophilia. I was more than willing to denounce and condemn it because I never wanted to be associated with that.

And I never experienced an affinity to actual shota porn. I don't know why there was a disconnect in my mind saying "furry good human bad," but now that I realise that I writhe in regret.

Then I received medication and therapy for it, and that's when I began to see it as wrong and fucked up, and reminisced how I've been shut out of so many safe spaces and lost so many friends because of it, not to mention what would have happened if my parents found out.

Nowadays I constantly live in regret and shame for it, and I don't think I'll ever be able to heal. And I'm probably gonna be on medication for the rest of my life due to having a myriad of other neurological conditions.

I can't ever forgive myself for having been into something so dangerous and degenerate as that, and when I think about the possible real world implications of it (like how many people who are into it tend to be interested in actual minors, which is the opposite of what I want to be), I often cry about it because it's so goddamn upsetting and I regret it so much.

And one time during a medication transition my OCD came back and in a haze of anxiety I ended up saying out loud in a group chat I was in that I was afraid of relapsing and they banned me, and the way I reacted and repeatedly harassed the admins afterwards to try to "explain" myself only made things worse and now I regret everything that I did. People now think I'm a pedophile and I don't ever want to be known as that, much less actually be one. This truly is the worst thing that's ever happened to me and I writhe in shame and regret over it.

I don't know what to tell myself, nor how to recover from this, because what I was into was not okay and what all resulted from it. I genuinely want to die because of it and I don't know what I can do.

Sounds to me like you let the lines of fantasy blend with the consequences of reality, and tried to both fix, and regret a non-problem. There are plenty of people who like young art, but can't even stand being in the same room as a child. There are probably pedos who don't care at all about art. There are those who are both. Sounds like your fear is the believe that left = right. The beautiful thing about art is that it is an outlet to deal with things you don't want to actually do. Considering the sounds of it is that your interest to begin with is just that you have a scale fetish, I don't think you've even got a problem to begin with.

You should stop using the internet or at least group chats, furry sites, and r34 sites.

I agree with both versperus and lance.

because what I was into was not okay and what all resulted from it

Dude, what you were into was fine. It's just drawings. You're not even into actual minors. It's fine.

People now think I'm a pedophile

That sounds like the only actual problem. Just try not to come off as a pedo, and you'll be fine.

lance_armstrong said:
You should stop using the internet or at least group chats, furry sites, and r34 sites.

Yeah I exiled myself and just deleted all of my accounts, I felt it would be best if I just disappeared and sought therapy.

Dood, Hotline
800-273-8255

Self-harm is no joke and if you ever feel like it,
even a bit, These peeps are Here to Help You, and
They. Will. Understand! And are there for You!
No matter the Time, Day, or Hour, Call and they'll
do everything in their power to keep the world from
collapsing in on you, Dood.

Man, OCD is a hard thing to live with. I'm glad that you've already sought therapy and medication, that's a good first step.
If you feel that furry porn (or in this case, cub content) is causing you clinically significant distress, stop consuming it.
Either use a blacklist that helps to hide all of it, or stop visiting websites that hosts it. E.g., FurAffinity would be a safer place for you since they block cub content.

Yeah I did stop consuming it. The regret and anxiety comes from ever having liked it in the first place and what came about in a fit of distress. I regret everything so much and can't come to terms with the fact that this was once who I was, even though I've axed it out of my life entirely.

Man your history on this site is a fuckin mess. You're obsessed with this subject.

It's literally fiction. You can like whatever you like with no obligation to feel guilty about it. Puritans and other conservatives who would ban you for your taste in fiction are toxic waste dumps that nobody should be associating with anyway. If your "friends" judge you for what you get off to in private, that's a sign you need better friends. You definitely shouldn't be adopting the language ("dangerous and degenerate") of /pol/ users who would not hesitate to shoot all furries to describe yourself.

It sounds like you've got a lot of issues to work through, but it would probably be better to come to terms with your own fetishes on a site where you haven't already been warned twice and banned once for trying to impose your self-loathing on others.

stellers_jay said:
A while back I used to like cub porn. I don't know how I could have ever liked the stuff, I blame it on being a horny teen who didn't know any better.

I have a theory that at a young age I was exposed to the Japanese kemono aesthetic and unfortunately that has a lot of overlap with cub content. It was more about the look of it, that "cute" aesthetic, and I honest to God thought it was miniature adults. If it was explicitly or intended to be minors then all bets were off.

Yet throughout all of this, I never experienced any real-life pedophilia. I was more than willing to denounce and condemn it because I never wanted to be associated with that.

I also dealt with this same issue for a while (and I definitely understand what you're feeling, I hate talking about it), and I think your theory is the same what happened with me, but not once did I ever think or find actual minors hot, so you definitely aren't a pedophile. Just take it easy for a while and don't think you've done some horrible crime, brains just work in weird (and often stupid) ways.

stellers_jay said:
Yeah I did stop consuming it. The regret and anxiety comes from ever having liked it in the first place and what came about in a fit of distress. I regret everything so much and can't come to terms with the fact that this was once who I was, even though I've axed it out of my life entirely.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with liking artworks, so don't shame or guilt yourself over it. Same goes to if you like violent/gory video games, it's all fiction/fantasy.
You should condemn those that act on their fantasies and actually harm people in real life, they are the degenerates.
For you to only like what is on artworks, that's entirely okay and is nothing to be ashamed about.

I like my small people, but there usually older than 18 and I like the young aesthetic. I watch a lot of anime.
The difference between me and what seperates me from Pedos is: I dislike kids

I think some people just have a harder time loving young characters in shows and not loving kids, or something...
besides I find liking porn of such things to be rediculous. Art is ageless. There is a time when you was that age and then one day you're like a 40 year old liking the same content.
Then it's like "Well I'm sorry I grew up and the content I like is AGELESS"

That's the prob with cartoon porn. I just throw age out the window half the time. But eh, we live in a society where boomers think looking at a 5000 year old grandma in the body of a child is considered child porn or something. I think there were/are court cases about that.

There's a decent amount of Lolicon supporters who agree that the loli genre is NOT the same as pedophilia, I tend to agree, saw a vid explaining it well too.

I'm not sure you're prob resonates with ine though...are we on the same page here?

closetpossum said:
I like my small people, but there usually older than 18 and I like the young aesthetic. I watch a lot of anime.
The difference between me and what seperates me from Pedos is: I dislike kids

I think some people just have a harder time loving young characters in shows and not loving kids, or something...
besides I find liking porn of such things to be rediculous. Art is ageless. There is a time when you was that age and then one day you're like a 40 year old liking the same content.
Then it's like "Well I'm sorry I grew up and the content I like is AGELESS"

That's the prob with cartoon porn. I just throw age out the window half the time. But eh, we live in a society where boomers think looking at a 5000 year old grandma in the body of a child is considered child porn or something. I think there were/are court cases about that.

There's a decent amount of Lolicon supporters who agree that the loli genre is NOT the same as pedophilia, I tend to agree, saw a vid explaining it well too.

I'm not sure you're prob resonates with ine though...are we on the same page here?

I get what you mean, totally.

I'm feeling a lot better about this now, thankfully. I just have a lot of traumas and mental tangles to deal with and hopefully I can actually find a professional to talk to about it, something that is really hard in today's day and age because there are not enough doctors or appointment times to go around for everyone.

There's no way I could ever consciously like the stuff ever again, but at least I'll worry less about it now.

versperus said:
Sounds to me like you let the lines of fantasy blend with the consequences of reality, and tried to both fix, and regret a non-problem. There are plenty of people who like young art, but can't even stand being in the same room as a child. There are probably pedos who don't care at all about art. There are those who are both. Sounds like your fear is the believe that left = right. The beautiful thing about art is that it is an outlet to deal with things you don't want to actually do. Considering the sounds of it is that your interest to begin with is just that you have a scale fetish, I don't think you've even got a problem to begin with.

Spitting facts

wat8548 said:
Man your history on this site is a fuckin mess. You're obsessed with this subject.

It's a combination of OCD and trauma regarding it. I've always been known to be quite obsessive about certain topics.

wat8548 said:
It's literally fiction.

I will accept that much, and that I would never even touch the actual stuff, let alone actual people.

It's just that being how controversial this topic is and being that you have one side vehemently opposed to it and the other saying it's perfectly alright, both with very good reasoning behind their stances, I just feel quite conflicted about it and it brews a lot of uncertainty within me.

Yeah I think I should take time away from this subject, for my own sake.

"Ree! Icky wrongbad!" isn't good reasoning, it's an appeal to emotions. I've had people try to link me dubiously-sourced "scientific" articles that are talking about actual pornography of that sort leading directly to the deed itself, although I can never actually find any information on the researchers involved beyond them seeming to be closer to journalists than trying to prove anything scientifically. Always British, too... which is... fascinating.

People try to pull the same logic with, and this is where it always wraps back to, anything that is a crime or morally unsound in the real world. The moment you stop acknowledging fiction as, just that, fiction, bad shit starts to happen... lest we forget the age-old "D&D/Rock and Roll are Satanism" and "Doom caused Columbine" lunacy. Unfortunately, when people dislike something it is a common mechanism to try to stop others from enjoying it, or to stop it from existing outright, rather than simply carry on and ignore it. Still find it curious how many of those folks are perfectly okay with bestiality, rape, cannibalism, snuff, gore, mindbreak, torture, and god knows what else and don't see a problem with their shit, but will crusade against everyone else's shit.

Now, mentioning your kinks in public, that's always dumb, don't do that. That bridge is fucked, for you, and you're going to have to start over wherever your associations with those involved is. Don't really blame you, given the context, but still, try your best to keep any fetishes firmly in your brain and not your mouth, especially common sources of disgust like the above.

As others said, it's not real. It's fine to regret liking it, but you don't need to feel bad about it now. Literally no one was hurt by it. The characters simply are not real beings.

I myself never "liked" cub art but I was oblivious to it. This is especially true when I first found the fandom when I was 17 or so. Because of that, "discovery" type stories appealed to me. I also like size difference stuff so I've often mistaken cub for size difference in the past. Even now sometimes it's hard to tell the difference, and I need the artists' character lore to know for sure for artists with more toony styles. Since I obsessively save things even though that was over twenty years ago now some of those may be seen in the context of "cub." It really depends on how strictly people define it too, as far as whether there is a difference between older teenagers and cub.

For me, I'm unnerved that I was totally blind to it. I think my wakeup moment was when a well-known (at the time) artist was jailed for possession of literal child pornography. Now THAT is something to be guilty for, on his part. I can't even look at his art without thinking what he may have used as a reference for his "barely adult" age characters. But guilty? It's not real. I know "get over it" isn't a valid thing to say or expect of someone, so just hang onto the reality that it isn't real.

There are times when I remember something really dumb I said when I was like twelve and I feel embarrassed about it all over again. In those cases, I think "wait, that happened a long time ago, and I was a kid." Ditto for things even ten years ago as an adult. The sheer cringe seeing an old comment that makes me shake my head now. But again, in the past.

So both of those factors apply here:
1.) It's not real, and you hurt no one.
2.) It's in the past, and it's normal for people to change and evolve as they grow older.

I know someone who went from frantically literally communist, to right wing, and now neither in the span of like five years. Change is normal. Some people have a lot worse than "thought crimes" to regret from their past. You can take comfort in the fact you are not like said pedophile artist.

stellers_jay said:
I'm feeling a lot better about this now, thankfully. I just have a lot of traumas and mental tangles to deal with and hopefully I can actually find a professional to talk to about it, something that is really hard in today's day and age because there are not enough doctors or appointment times to go around for everyone.

There's no way I could ever consciously like the stuff ever again, but at least I'll worry less about it now.

I hope you do find that professional help, as I have found. A proper therapist will not aim to make you feel ashamed of yourself or your past. They will help you find a set of mind where you are not harmful for yourself or others. As has been said here, cub-art is all imagination. If one has the knack for it, it's probably impossible to rid of it completely. However, whatever happens in your fantasy is ok, as long as it doesn't affect others in a harmful way. It is important to learn to understand yourself, accept yourself and most importantly, mature enough to be control of yourself. A person can have a sweet tooth, but should not blame that sweet tooth for unwanted obesity - instead one should take responsibility and control over one's eating, but once again, in a healthy way - at the other end is the problem of anorexia and other eating disorders. A person may fancy the looks of a skimpy cub drawn on a picture, but take responsibility of reporting apparent real child abuse to the authorities (such abuse is NOT condoned here in e621 either, as I've been happy to have learned to understand) and especially take responsibility of one's own actions in real life. It's not okay to grope children or conduct any sort of molestation. Neither is it okay (for even a straight person) without proper consent to start groping mature people of their own age, even if they get aroused of them. Sexual abuse is never to be blamed on the victim in any circumstances, and everyone is responsible for learning to live with the physiology and psyche they have so that they are not danger to others. This is all a lot to learn, and good therapists are invaluable help here, which I have been fortunate enough to receive to help me with my own issues of depression and maturing.

Are you a hypocrite?
Cause if you are, maybe you should just own it.

I mean, you say you hate the stuff, yet you VIEW the stuff
and you know it's fiction, yet you feel trauma/disgust and stuff for looking at it?

Pick a side...can't be two things at once, unless you really are a hypocrite which means you just simply have two
contradictory opinions.
If you know it's just fiction, imo, the logical wiring in someone's brain would say "If it's just fiction it really doesn't matter"

Like what if someone had cannibal fantasies? Is it wrong to think of the stuff, wrong to fantasize about eating another of your kind but NEVER DO IT?
It's just fantasy so logically speaking, it really doesn't matter in the end.
People have their kinks, it's called KINK for a reason.

Nobody cares at you looking at Kid/Loli/ whatever porn more than YOU do.
Cause YOU'RE the one looking at it. So why bother confessing?
What are you getting out of this? I do not understand your motive here.

Backtrack EDIT: I mean if authority saw LITERAL real life child porn on your device you're totally going to the slammer.
But really...this is FURRY SMUT, nobody gives a damn about some cub creature in fur...these old BOOMERs don't even know what this stuff is

Are you confessing your sins to the internet? We all have our sins here.
post #2774070

closetpossum said:
Are you a hypocrite?

It feels a bit of a leap from "this person is conflicted and isn't sure", to "this person is a hypocrite". It's also usually defined as saying one thing and doing another, which given they've apparently stopped looking at it doesn't sound hypocritical.

closetpossum said:
Backtrack EDIT: I mean if authority saw LITERAL real life child porn on your device you're totally going to the slammer.
But really...this is FURRY SMUT, nobody gives a damn about some cub creature in fur...these old BOOMERs don't even know what this stuff is

There's actually quite a few countries and likely a few states that say "if it's humanoid, pornographic, and looks young then it's illegal, regardless of slight alterations", such as adding a tail. So for most places it's a legally grey area, and best to check the laws where you live first before saying "nobody gives a damn."

I think a lot of people here agree that fictional images don't lead to real life acts, but they might still be illegal where you live, and it's worth knowing if they are or not.

This sounds like post nut clarity hitting way too hard.
Furry porn is like game mechanics, don't question that you have to fish even though the world was supposedly ending really soon, just fish.

mairo said:
This sounds like post nut clarity hitting way too hard.
Furry porn is like game mechanics, don't question that you have to fish even though the world was supposedly ending really soon, just fish.

Damn, Mairo, didn't have to hit everyone HARD with that drop.
Imagine THIS being your post-nut clarity...that's...that's scary man.

Nuts..."WHAT HAVE I DONE!"

mairo said:
This sounds like post nut clarity hitting way too hard.
Furry porn is like game mechanics, don't question that you have to fish even though the world was supposedly ending really soon, just fish.

is this a zelda or ff reference

versperus said:
is this a zelda or ff reference

both honestly.
In FF's case (FFXIV) There's war, strife, and monsters that will consume the world's essence, not to mention a cult of immortals hellbent on causing mass genocide in order to raise their fallen GOD

but...you know...just craft...chop some wood...go fishing...

stellers_jay said:
A while back I used to like cub porn. I don't know...
[cont.]
...resulted from it. I genuinely want to die because of it and I don't know what I can do.

I understand you're looking for opinions/acceptance/what-have-you to relieve some inner turmoil, but if you're looking for guidance and factual information/psychology I highly suggest visiting Prostasia Foundation's website. They will set the record straight for you. I try to donate every year.

As many here are pointing out, Prostasia also makes it clear all forms of art should be allowed, and there's nothing wrong with it, period. They are a child protection agency firstly, but also fight for human and civil rights (eg. freedom of art), and sex positivity (eg. using art). They are not your typical CPA, and use the latest research data to back their arguments and have proven time and time again why society's current views on art for example are completely misguided and a danger to children. There's a lot more besides art they discuss on their site, but venting there might be more beneficial for your journey. However before you decide to dive in and vent, I suggest searching and reading other folks vents to keep the echo chamber to a minimum.

stellers_jay said:
Yeah I did stop consuming it. The regret and anxiety comes from ever having liked it in the first place and what came about in a fit of distress. I regret everything so much and can't come to terms with the fact that this was once who I was, even though I've axed it out of my life entirely.

this is just how you're feeling at this time. you've stopped, you want to make a clean break and you're working on your problems via medication and therapy. miracle cures are unlikely and the most realistic thing is that you'll get better, bit by bit over time, even if it sometimes feels like a rollercoaster while you're going through it. you can learn to be in new ways and learn to manage yourself. nobody learned how to walk without falling over and smacking their face into the floor a coupla times, you know?

stellers_jay said:
A while back I used to like cub porn. I don't know how I could have ever liked the stuff, I blame it on being a horny teen who didn't know any better.

I have a theory that at a young age I was exposed to the Japanese kemono aesthetic and unfortunately that has a lot of overlap with cub content. It was more about the look of it, that "cute" aesthetic, and I honest to God thought it was miniature adults. If it was explicitly or intended to be minors then all bets were off.

Yet throughout all of this, I never experienced any real-life pedophilia. I was more than willing to denounce and condemn it because I never wanted to be associated with that.

And I never experienced an affinity to actual shota porn. I don't know why there was a disconnect in my mind saying "furry good human bad," but now that I realise that I writhe in regret.

Then I received medication and therapy for it, and that's when I began to see it as wrong and fucked up, and reminisced how I've been shut out of so many safe spaces and lost so many friends because of it, not to mention what would have happened if my parents found out.

Nowadays I constantly live in regret and shame for it, and I don't think I'll ever be able to heal. And I'm probably gonna be on medication for the rest of my life due to having a myriad of other neurological conditions.

I can't ever forgive myself for having been into something so dangerous and degenerate as that, and when I think about the possible real world implications of it (like how many people who are into it tend to be interested in actual minors, which is the opposite of what I want to be), I often cry about it because it's so goddamn upsetting and I regret it so much.

And one time during a medication transition my OCD came back and in a haze of anxiety I ended up saying out loud in a group chat I was in that I was afraid of relapsing and they banned me, and the way I reacted and repeatedly harassed the admins afterwards to try to "explain" myself only made things worse and now I regret everything that I did. People now think I'm a pedophile and I don't ever want to be known as that, much less actually be one. This truly is the worst thing that's ever happened to me and I writhe in shame and regret over it.

I don't know what to tell myself, nor how to recover from this, because what I was into was not okay and what all resulted from it. I genuinely want to die because of it and I don't know what I can do.

stop beating yourself up about it. there's nothing wrong about gettin yourself off to a few lines. as long as it isnt actual pictures it isnt hurting anyone and actually helps.

actual pedos, even if they have morals and would never do that to an actual child, are able to release themselves with it and prevent them from being too restrained and doing something to an actual chile. as long as youre able to keep fantasy and reality separate, its okay, calm down

verag0dskill said:

actual pedos, even if they have morals and would never do that to an actual child, are able to release themselves with it and prevent them from being too restrained and doing something to an actual chile. as long as youre able to keep fantasy and reality separate, its okay, calm down

what actual studies have been done on this? i'm wondering because you could just as well argue that conditioning is very much a thing that happens to people

colacolabug said:
what actual studies have been done on this? i'm wondering because you could just as well argue that conditioning is very much a thing that happens to people

Somewhere on Prostasia's blog there is a post discussing it referencing linked research on the matter.

stellers_jay said:
A while back I used to like cub porn. I don't know how I could have ever liked the stuff, I blame it on being a horny teen who didn't know any better.

I have a theory that at a young age I was exposed to the Japanese kemono aesthetic and unfortunately that has a lot of overlap with cub content. It was more about the look of it, that "cute" aesthetic, and I honest to God thought it was miniature adults. If it was explicitly or intended to be minors then all bets were off.

Yet throughout all of this, I never experienced any real-life pedophilia. I was more than willing to denounce and condemn it because I never wanted to be associated with that.

And I never experienced an affinity to actual shota porn. I don't know why there was a disconnect in my mind saying "furry good human bad," but now that I realise that I writhe in regret.

Then I received medication and therapy for it, and that's when I began to see it as wrong and fucked up, and reminisced how I've been shut out of so many safe spaces and lost so many friends because of it, not to mention what would have happened if my parents found out.

Nowadays I constantly live in regret and shame for it, and I don't think I'll ever be able to heal. And I'm probably gonna be on medication for the rest of my life due to having a myriad of other neurological conditions.

I can't ever forgive myself for having been into something so dangerous and degenerate as that, and when I think about the possible real world implications of it (like how many people who are into it tend to be interested in actual minors, which is the opposite of what I want to be), I often cry about it because it's so goddamn upsetting and I regret it so much.

And one time during a medication transition my OCD came back and in a haze of anxiety I ended up saying out loud in a group chat I was in that I was afraid of relapsing and they banned me, and the way I reacted and repeatedly harassed the admins afterwards to try to "explain" myself only made things worse and now I regret everything that I did. People now think I'm a pedophile and I don't ever want to be known as that, much less actually be one. This truly is the worst thing that's ever happened to me and I writhe in shame and regret over it.

I don't know what to tell myself, nor how to recover from this, because what I was into was not okay and what all resulted from it. I genuinely want to die because of it and I don't know what I can do.

Before I start mind if I say that I am not hating on the cub community (I’m not well educated in the moral positions nor am I interested in diving deeper), but simply pointing out some terrible behaviors

The cub community and the furry community as a whole seems to be under this singular mentality. One that leaves moral discussion and disagreements off the table. This is a perfect example of this behavior. He reached out expressing that he was leaving the cub fetish, expressing all of his mental scars and confliction. It seems like everybody throws everything he just said, all of the stuff about it ruining his life, out the window and basically says; “Well your wrong because it was all okay”. It’s super insensitive. He took a path different than yours, people, he saw it as morally unjust and changed himself. Honestly we should be celebrating! Even through the mental struggles of having gone against what you feel is right you still recovered yourself. However, many people find that questioning fetishes morality, more notably in regards to the cub community in this case, to be offensive. Moral questioning is a good thing that pushes groups and the world as a whole to better places!

I hope you are making a good recovery, best wishes.

I’m betting like nobody read this because this is like a two month old post. I saw it earlier and I still wanted to speak my mind. Because I think this common behavior here is just sucky. I tried to phrase this in a way that wouldn’t get me banned for trolling, which is a whole new can of worms to discuss.

First and foremost, learn and move on. People don't like to think that they don't understand themselves, and as a result end up in this loop of incorrectly trying to define themselves. It's something you'll figure out as you get older, but actually understanding yourself is a huge deal and something that you should always be aware of.

That said, There's many viewpoints on this subject and they'll always conflict. One will say "It's fake/art so you don't have to feel bad", another will say "it's a gateway drug to worse things". We can all agree that actual pedophilia is bad; but it also isn't unnatural (to a degree). Modern day age of consent laws are highly based on societal function, and not biological facts; the fact is that humans, as a species, are physiologically capable of reproducing as soon as they go through puberty (that's literally what puberty is). Throughout most of our history, people have regularly gotten married and started their lives as teenagers; and some will say that's "because we didn't used to live as long", but they're still ignoring the biology. The reason the age of consent is where it is now is to prevent pregnancies before someone is properly able to care for that child, and to prevent abuse (which is the bigger deal of the two, IMO). I think the entire reason that pedophilia even exists is because we've had it ingrained into our genetics for the past ten thousand years that "puberty = ready", and only in the past hundred years have we gone "wait, no, it's not". It's not inherently evil or unnatural to find a young body attractive, but it IS illegal and morally reprehensible to act on that; thus you get people (artists) creating artwork, a 'relatively safe' medium, of young characters as a stopgap between the fantasy and the reality. As long as you don't cross that line, you're perfectly fine.

Compare this to something like feral artwork. Does everyone who likes feral porn want to have sex with an actual animal? No, certainly not. The fantasy is there, the reality isn't, and that's how it should be. I've got the hots for Nala from lion king, doesn't mean I'm going to go jump into a lion enclosure at the zoo. Once you understand that disconnect, and the wall that you can't and won't pass, you'll feel much better about yourself.