Because i remember back during the early days like the 90s and early 2000s documentaries mostly focused on stuff like yiff,plushophilia and such.
But i noticed recent furry documentaries don't seem to focus on that stuff or outright ignore it.
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Because i remember back during the early days like the 90s and early 2000s documentaries mostly focused on stuff like yiff,plushophilia and such.
But i noticed recent furry documentaries don't seem to focus on that stuff or outright ignore it.
axelthefox said:
Because i remember back during the early days like the 90s and early 2000s documentaries mostly focused on stuff like yiff,plushophilia and such.But i noticed recent furry documentaries don't seem to focus on that stuff or outright ignore it.
I don't know if by "reacent furry documentaries" you mean something like these examples / small sample of documentaries...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv0QaTW3kEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMa6CMs5BIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGRQ-1305I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_uJAE6z3xA
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I believe that before, there was more a focus on things that caused more shock and scandal to the "general public", with intention of appealing to "sell" / or superior rating.
Things like that episode of "CSI", or some scandalous magazine articles of the 90s... things like that, seemed now as far ago.
I also believe that recently, furries themselves had more opportunity to explain themselves better, to present a more complex and human (paradoxes!) side of the fandom.
Other fandoms like Gamers or Anime, begin to see the Furries as fandom more like theirs. I recently have the impression that they see furries like creative, a Fandom mostly compossed by a more or less "wealthy" college and university students (which was more true before than now, anyway.)
Or maybe, what I write would seem like idiocies by the people that really know something, and are immersed in the current status of the Fandom (which I am not).
I will finish by saying, that my feeling is that the furry fandom has massified a bit, is somehow more "accepted" by the general public, the voice of the furries themselves is heard more, ... but I also believe, that is more "childish", less intellectual ... even when, still, there is an even greater number of talented artists in it.
(Just my opinion).
Any sort of media project regarding a subculture or fandom is inherently going to focus on the most engaging/weird/unusual features due to entertainment value. At least we haven't gotten, to my knowledge, an entire Law and Order or CSI episode about how furries are all secretly serial killers like they did with gaming.
Are the "current furry documentaries" made by furries?
lance_armstrong said:
Are the "current furry documentaries" made by furries?
I once watched a furry documentary made by furries and i think it is somewhat biased.
Or the Lisa Ling episode on furries on CNN.
The truth, is that because of this thread, I spend a lot of hours in the last two days watching Furry documentaries... starting with the ones that I posted above. And my conclusion is that there is so much to gain. I would even recommend that the one interested keep those documentaries, because in few years, they will disappear... because such is the nature of internet. Things disappear or become difficult to find.
To me, the real scandal is not so much about the kinks that some Furry exhibit, but the abysmal ignorance of the current Furry Fandom, about Furry itself… its history and origins.
I found very interesting the conferences of Uncle Kage (yes, I know that many here have valid reasons not to like him). I want to mention, although I think that I have done it before, this video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dhaPbPOps
I think it was in a Furry convention in Germany. A lecture about Pseudoscience. Obviously, it was material that he recycled from his teaching in a class of Philosophy of Science or Skeptical Thinking in a University... but it is surprising that this is given in a Furry Convention. You go there to see the "Furpile" and you end up receiving some vitamins for your brain.
Somehow, this would be for me a more ideal Furry ambiance. One in which people would talk about real and important things, and reflect. But unfortunately, I know it would remain just as an exception.
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The bigger issue is why so many sensationalists made furry videos back in the 1990's, precisely to bait audiences in with that, but not now? Lost it's impact? Overdone?
alphamule said:
The bigger issue is why so many sensationalists made furry videos back in the 1990's, precisely to bait audiences in with that, but not now? Lost it's impact? Overdone?
"-isms" are easier to drive up a flurry of mentally deficient manchildren with nowadays. Just gotta dig up a joke or something somebody said a decade ago and you'll have droves of morons clicking articles and clutching pearls.
why waste your life watching a documentation of furries
versperus said:
why waste your life watching a documentation of furries
Agreed, it's far funner playing some games than watching them, for video game analogy.
versperus said:
why waste your life watching a documentation of furries
alphamule said:
Agreed, it's far funner playing some games than watching them, for video game analogy.
There is no reason to see a Furry Documentary if someone don't feel like it. There are people that enjoy many things that I could not begin even to understand.
At least, the ones that made "The Fandom", for example, won the Denver Film Feslival in the category of Documental. At least, for them carreers and the Fandom (if you like) that is an archivement. For me, that's superior of getting yet another video of some fursuiters jumping aimlessly to tasteless music, like in so many furry videos in YouTube.
I personally liked and found interesting many documentals. Specially that one, that rescued the History of Furry Fandom.
mexicanfurry said:
There is no reason to see a Furry Documentary if someone don't feel like it. There are people that enjoy many things that I could not begin even to understand.At least, the ones that made "The Fandom", for example, won the Denver Film Feslival in the category of Documental. At least, for them carreers and the Fandom (if you like) that is an archivement. ...
I personally liked and found interesting many documentals. Specially that one, that rescued the History of Furry Fandom.
Can't question the varying degrees of entertainment for certain people. Same reason that people are into caily crosswords and such.
Probably also about the differences in culture between sects of the internet, too; noting the country-by-country basis on the Web for entertainment vs. informative uses, the general trend being "West funnies, East education."
funeralopolite said:
Probably also about the differences in culture between sects of the internet, too; noting the country-by-country basis on the Web for entertainment vs. informative uses, the general trend being "West funnies, East education."
Your comment really got me thinking, looking for an answer. Certainly the theme of cultural differences, between East and West, is for some people, like me, very interesting. Went even to search for something new on the subject... but I believe there is hardly anything new... just things that we do know, or we ignore. Still, I found this article written by a person of Hong Kong, very interesting.
https://www.globalfromasia.com/east-west-differences/
A site like this, E6, could be seen even as a place for meeting of thse two broadly defined worlds (East, West). You have notied that many Westerners, specially the young ones, do like very much many things created in the Far East (animation, music, games). Still, the ignorance in the lack of knowledge of deep of History and Traditions of the East, is appalling ESPECIALLY in these youths... not that the older ones knew so very much, but still, they liked at least to READ.
During my attempts to learn the Japanese Language (endevour that I didn't finish, yet), I bought a great number of used books of secondary education that came from a Japanese school in Mexico City. Books about education of natural science, history, basic economics, etc. There I saw that the the Asian Countries had had an very complex evolution, a very deep history, and ways of thinking that are both interesting and a source of wisdom for the West... or it could be.
Therefore, for one, I sympathize very much on the Idea that you presented in this thread:
@Funeralopolite
https://e621.net/forum_topics/31789
Even with what I have written above (my pesimism), and even with the lack of deep knowledge of each other (I mean, the Worlds), I have seen how some of my young cousings via Internet, cooperate with people of the far east (Indonesians, Chinese, Coreans, etc) on projects of artistic nature ... some of which, I could tell you, has to do with Video Games, and involve, yes, knowledge of the deep culture of both worlds. So if I am by nature a bit skeptical and of dark mood, I see positive things about that theme.
Regards.
electricitywolf said:
I once watched a furry documentary made by furries and i think it is somewhat biased.
You think?