The tag alias #56268 female_rape -> rape has been rejected.

Reason: I think it would make more sense if we call the Female_Rape tag Reverse_Rape.
Reverse_Rape would mean the rape in which one character is being forced to penetrate the other regardless of gender.
I think the Female_Rape tag to be dubbed to Reverse_Rape or at least have an Implication.

Edit: incorrect forum.

EDIT: The tag alias female_rape -> reverse_rape (forum #325628) has been rejected by @bitWolfy.

anguirus12345 said:
Reverse_Rape would mean the rape in which one character is being forced to penetrate the other regardless of gender.

Hmm I don’t know about that... Rape on its own doesn’t imply that one has to be a penetrator, it just means someone was forced to do sex. Right now there’s no wiki page for reverse rape, so no consensus as to what that means. Is it a person forcing themselves to have sex, a penetrated forcing a penetrator (might imply that only men can rape) into sex, or is it the opposite of non-consent which would just be consensual sex?

totallynotwatsoninc said:
Hmm I don’t know about that... Rape on its own doesn’t imply that one has to be a penetrator, it just means someone was forced to do sex. Right now there’s no wiki page for reverse rape, so no consensus as to what that means. Is it a person forcing themselves to have sex, a penetrated forcing a penetrator (might imply that only men can rape) into sex, or is it the opposite of non-consent which would just be consensual sex?

I've looked at this tag on other sites with Pixiv and Rule34, I think I can create a wiki for this tag.
sorry, what did you ask in the last sentence?

anguirus12345 said:
sorry, what did you ask in the last sentence?

There’s just so many things “reverse rape” can mean depending on who you’re asking, I gave examples.

totallynotwatsoninc said:
There’s just so many things “reverse rape” can mean depending on who you’re asking, I gave examples.

a simpler explanation: reverse_rape would force stimulation of a character's penis.

anguirus12345 said:
The tag alias #56268 female_rape -> rape has been rejected.

Reason: I think it would make more sense if we call the Female_Rape tag Reverse_Rape.
Reverse_Rape would mean the rape in which one character is being forced to penetrate the other regardless of gender.
I think the Female_Rape tag to be dubbed to Reverse_Rape or at least have an Implication.

now that I think about it, this forum is incorrect. a female can also rape a male by the anus https://e621.net/posts?tags=female_rape+female_penetrating_male+

anguirus12345 said:
a simpler explanation: reverse_rape would force stimulation of a character's penis.

So a male raping another male in the ass, but also giving the victim an unwanted reach-around, would be both rape and reverse rape? Unwanted penile stimulation is still rape.

To me, reverse_rape sounds more like a rape victim becomes the rapist. Character A attempts to rape Character B, but then Character B ends up raping Character A. Or maybe something like this, where an attempt at rape turns out to be consensual.

watsit said:
So a male raping another male in the ass, but also giving the victim an unwanted reach-around, would be both rape and reverse rape? Unwanted penile stimulation is still rape.

Yes, Rape is Rape.
I planned an implication later.

watsit said:
To me, reverse_rape sounds more like a rape victim becomes the rapist. Character A attempts to rape Character B, but then Character B ends up raping Character A. Or maybe something like this, where an attempt at rape turns out to be consensual.

if we were to use the tag in this way, it would be a very dialog- or animation-dependent tag and would end up being used very little.
I think the penile stimulation idea is better.

watsit said:
To me, reverse_rape sounds more like a rape victim becomes the rapist. Character A attempts to rape Character B, but then Character B ends up raping Character A. Or maybe something like this, where an attempt at rape turns out to be consensual.

anguirus12345 said:
if we were to use the tag in this way, it would be a very dialog- or animation-dependent tag and would end up being used very little.
I think the penile stimulation idea is better.

in case you think i'm wrong, give me a better name for this kind of situation.

the term "reverse rape" is founded on the idea that there's one "proper", "normal" way for rape to happen (ie, man raping woman). factually and morally, rape is rape. since there already exists tagging for the gender of the person committing the rape there's no need for this specific change. particularly not since many people want what you'd call more "objective" tags without values assigned to them.

forced_penile_stimulation is a bit inelegant, probably there is a better way to phrase it, but it would cover anything where a dick is forcibly stimulated. it does what it says on the tin.

colacolabug said:
the term "reverse rape" is founded on the idea that there's one "proper", "normal" way for rape to happen (ie, man raping woman). factually and morally, rape is rape. since there already exists tagging for the gender of the person committing the rape there's no need for this specific change. particularly not since many people want what you'd call more "objective" tags without values assigned to them.

forced_penile_stimulation is a bit inelegant, probably there is a better way to phrase it, but it would cover anything where a dick is forcibly stimulated. it does what it says on the tin.

I think there should be a tag. there are people who like to see males being forcibly stimulated by the penis. currently, how would he look for it?
forced_penile_stimulation is good idea.

rape is rape, calling it reverse simply based on sex is not only inaccurate it discredits both the fact of penis owners being able to be raped, as well as homosexual rape. How would the tag make sense if both parties had a vagina? The existing tag makes a lot more sense then aliasing it to a tag that could be attributed to exhibit A pulling an uno reverse on exhibit B, and reverse rape isn't even gender specific as literally anyone could pull this maneuver. You want to see femdom rape stuff? dominant_female penile rape

versperus said:
rape is rape, calling it reverse simply based on sex is not only inaccurate it discredits both the fact of penis owners being able to be raped, as well as homosexual rape. How would the tag make sense if both parties had a vagina? The existing tag makes a lot more sense then aliasing it to a tag that could be attributed to exhibit A pulling an uno reverse on exhibit B, and reverse rape isn't even gender specific as literally anyone could pull this maneuver. You want to see femdom rape stuff? dominant_female penile rape

Keep it simple. Instead alias reverse_rape -> female_rape because reverse rape is a dumb and less intuitive term

makes it line up better with other tags like

male_rape
female_rape
intersex_rape
gynomorph_rape
etc.

pewdiecrustlesspie said:
Keep it simple. Instead alias reverse_rape -> female_rape because reverse rape is a dumb and less intuitive term

Again, that doesn't work. Either reverse rape should be used as the linquistic reverse uno sense of the tag where the person who was going to be the raped rapes the rapest, or it's aliased to rape.

pewdiecrustlesspie said:

makes it line up better with other tags like

male_rape
female_rape
intersex_rape
gynomorph_rape
etc.

I think for the best clarity it would be better to use
male_rapest
female_rapest
intersex_rapest
etc.

as people might mistake _rape as the person being raped.
and actually, on that having a

male_raped
female_raped
intersex_raped
etc.
tags to go along with those to indicate both the victim and violator roles.

versperus said:
rape is rape, calling it reverse simply based on sex is not only inaccurate it discredits both the fact of penis owners being able to be raped, as well as homosexual rape. How would the tag make sense if both parties had a vagina? The existing tag makes a lot more sense then aliasing it to a tag that could be attributed to exhibit A pulling an uno reverse on exhibit B, and reverse rape isn't even gender specific as literally anyone could pull this maneuver. You want to see femdom rape stuff? dominant_female penile rape

but what if I want to see a male rape another male?

anguirus12345 said:
but what if I want to see a male rape another male?

Well, male_rape submissive_male should cover that just fine.

furrin_gok said:
Well, male_rape submissive_male should cover that just fine.

Or rape male/male.

anguirus12345 said:
but what if I want to see a male rape another male?

my comment directly above your question.

colacolabug said:
forced_penile_stimulation is a bit inelegant, probably there is a better way to phrase it, but it would cover anything where a dick is forcibly stimulated. it does what it says on the tin.

I'll go ahead and submit bottom_raping_top for consideration. Works fine regardless of gender, can cover potential edge-cases involving tentacles or other non-penile insertions, and can continue to combine with tags like male_penetrating, gynomorph_penetrated, etc.

lafcadio said:
I'll go ahead and submit bottom_raping_top for consideration. Works fine regardless of gender, can cover potential edge-cases involving tentacles or other non-penile insertions, and can continue to combine with tags like male_penetrating, gynomorph_penetrated, etc.

I'm not fond of using 'top' and 'bottom' in regards to sexual situations. It's too ambiguous if it means the character physically on top/bottom, or the character that's penetrating/penetrated (or the character that's taking the more active role vs a more passive one).

lafcadio said:
I'll go ahead and submit bottom_raping_top for consideration. Works fine regardless of gender, can cover potential edge-cases involving tentacles or other non-penile insertions, and can continue to combine with tags like male_penetrating, gynomorph_penetrated, etc.

that's basically the same issue as reverse rape.

versperus said:
I think for the best clarity it would be better to use
male_rapest
female_rapest
intersex_rapest
etc.

Good idea (but it's spelt 'rapist').

For the concept of "reverse rape", which I'm understanding to mean the rapist is penetrated by the unwilling victim, wouldn't something unambiguous like forced_to_penetrate (with an implication to rape) work best?

jockjamdoorslam said:
Good idea (but it's spelt 'rapist').

For the concept of "reverse rape", which I'm understanding to mean the rapist is penetrated by the unwilling victim, wouldn't something unambiguous like forced_to_penetrate (with an implication to rape) work best?

Yes.

jockjamdoorslam said:
Good idea (but it's spelt 'rapist').

welp

The tag alias female_rape -> reverse_rape (forum #325628) has been rejected by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #1931 is pending approval.

Reason: Given light of recent conversation on attached forum, I believe having more thorough victim/attacker tags such as these would both create a more thorough blacklist for people as well as more easily find a type of content for those interested in it. Thoughts? Any errors with the set up I have currently?

versperus said:
Reason: Given light of recent conversation on attached forum, I believe having more thorough victim/attacker tags such as these would both create a more thorough blacklist for people as well as more easily find a type of content for those interested in it. Thoughts? Any errors with the set up I have currently?

I think the x_raping_y tags are a bit much. It looks like more than 3/4ths the entire BUR given what all the potential combinations would imply. x_rapist and x_raped are enough, IMO.

versperus said:
The bulk update request #1931 is pending approval.

create alias male_rape (3912) -> male_rapist (0) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias female_rape (1469) -> female_rapist (0) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias intersex_rape (28) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create alias herm_rape (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create alias maleherm_rape (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create alias gynomorph_rape (118) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create alias andromorph_rape (13) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create alias ambiguous_rape (30) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication male_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication male_rapist (0) -> male (2506148)
create implication female_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication female_rapist (0) -> female (2549128)
create implication intersex_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication intersex_rapist (0) -> intersex (246055)
create implication herm_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication herm_rapist (0) -> herm (27322)
create implication maleherm_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_rapist (0) -> maleherm (4475)
create implication gynormorph_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_rapist (0) -> gynomorph (193683)
create implication andromorph_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_rapist (0) -> andromorph (23485)
create implication ambiguous_rapist (0) -> ambiguous_gender (313176)
create implication ambiguous_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication male_raped (1745) -> male (2506148)
create implication male_raped (1745) -> rape (47726)
create implication female_raped (3389) -> female (2549128)
create implication female_raped (3389) -> rape (47726)
create implication intersex_raped (2) -> intersex (246055)
create implication intersex_raped (2) -> rape (47726)
create implication herm_raped (1) -> herm (27322)
create implication herm_raped (1) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication maleherm_raped (5) -> maleherm (4475)
create implication maleherm_raped (5) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication gynomorph_raped (7) -> gynomorph (193683)
create implication gynomorph_raped (7) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication andromorph_raped (10) -> andromorph (23485)
create implication andromorph_raped (10) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication ambiguous_raped (25) -> ambiguous_gender (313176)
create implication ambiguous_raped (25) -> rape (47726)
create implication male_raping_female (3088) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_female (3088) -> female_raped (3389)
create implication male_raping_female (3088) -> male/female (668204)
create implication male_raping_male (813) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_male (813) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication male_raping_male (813) -> male/male (504585)
create implication male_raping_intersex (0) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication male_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/male (43182)
create implication male_raping_herm (0) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication male_raping_herm (0) -> herm/male (3295)
create implication male_raping_maleherm (0) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication male_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/male (839)
create implication male_raping_gynomorph (6) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_gynomorph (6) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication male_raping_gynomorph (6) -> gynomorph/male (21926)
create implication male_raping_andromorph (3) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_andromorph (3) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication male_raping_andromorph (3) -> andromorph/male (8345)
create implication male_raping_ambiguous (18) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_ambiguous (18) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication male_raping_ambiguous (18) -> male/ambiguous (32910)
create implication female_raping_male (444) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_male (444) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication female_raping_male (444) -> male/female (668204)
create implication female_raping_female (105) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_female (105) -> female_raped (3389)
create implication female_raping_female (105) -> female/female (102718)
create implication female_raping_intersex (0) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication female_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/female (44144)
create implication female_raping_herm (0) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication female_raping_herm (0) -> herm/female (3188)
create implication female_raping_maleherm (0) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication female_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/female (124)
create implication female_raping_gynomorph (1) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_gynomorph (1) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication female_raping_gynomorph (1) -> gynomorph/female (34293)
create implication female_raping_andromorph (1) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication female_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph/female (446)
create implication female_raping_ambiguous (1) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_ambiguous (1) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication female_raping_ambiguous (1) -> female/ambiguous (11937)
create implication intersex_raping_male (6) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_male (6) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication intersex_raping_male (6) -> intersex/male (43182)
create implication intersex_raping_female (12) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_female (12) -> femaled_raped (0)
create implication intersex_raping_female (12) -> intersex/female (44144)
create implication intersex_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication intersex_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/intersex (17459)
create implication intersex_raping_herm (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication intersex_raping_maleherm (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication intersex_raping_gynomorph (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication intersex_raping_andromorph (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication intersex_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication intersex_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex/ambiguous (2083)
create implication herm_raping_male (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_male (0) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication herm_raping_male (0) -> herm/male (3295)
create implication herm_raping_female (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_female (0) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication herm_raping_female (0) -> herm/female (3188)
create implication herm_raping_intersex (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication herm_raping_herm (0) -> herm/herm (860)
create implication herm_raping_maleherm (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication herm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/herm (102)
create implication herm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication herm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynormorh/herm (0)
create implication herm_raping_andromorph (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication herm_raping_andromorph (0) -> herm/andromorph (3)
create implication herm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication herm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> herm/ambiguous (177)
create implication maleherm_raping_male (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_male (0) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication maleherm_raping_male (0) -> maleherm/male (839)
create implication maleherm_raping_female (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_female (0) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication maleherm_raping_female (0) -> maleherm/female (124)
create implication maleherm_raping_intersex (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_herm (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication maleherm_raping_herm (0) -> maleherm/herm (102)
create implication maleherm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication maleherm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/maleherm (106)
create implication maleherm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication maleherm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> maleherm/gynomorph (63)
create implication maleherm_raping_andromorph (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication maleherm_raping_andromorph (0) -> maleherm/andromorph (24)
create implication maleherm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex_raping_ambiguous (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> maleherm/ambiguous (24)
create implication gynomorph_raping_male (33) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_male (33) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication gynomorph_raping_male (33) -> gynomorph/male (21926)
create implication gynomorph_raping_female (68) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_female (68) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication gynomorph_raping_female (68) -> gynomorph/female (34293)
create implication gynomorph_raping_intersex (0) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_herm (0) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication gynomorph_raping_herm (0) -> gynomorph/herm (1697)
create implication gynomorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication gynomorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/gynomorph (63)
create implication gynomorph_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication gynomorph_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph/gynomorph (10062)
create implication gynomorph_raping_andromorph (4) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_andromorph (4) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication gynomorph_raping_andromorph (4) -> andromorph/gynomorph (621)
create implication gynomorph_raping_ambiguous (4) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_ambiguous (4) -> intersex_raping_ambiguous (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_ambiguous (4) -> gynomorph/ambiguous (1500)
create implication andromorph_raping_male (10) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_male (10) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication andromorph_raping_male (10) -> andromorph/male (8345)
create implication andromorph_raping_female (0) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_female (0) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication andromorph_raping_female (0) -> andromorph/female (446)
create implication andromorph_raping_intersex (0) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_herm (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication andromorph_raping_herm (0) -> herm/andromorph (3)
create implication andromorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication andromorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/andromorph (24)
create implication andromorph_raping_gynomorph (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication andromorph_raping_gynomorph (0) -> andromorph/gynomorph (621)
create implication andromorph_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication andromorph_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph/andromorph (277)
create implication andromorph_raping_ambiguous (0) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex_raping_ambiguous (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_ambiguous (0) -> andromorph/ambiguous (170)
create implication ambiguous_raping_male (0) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_male (0) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication ambiguous_raping_male (0) -> male/ambiguous (32910)
create implication ambiguous_raping_female (10) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_female (10) -> female_raped (3389)
create implication ambiguous_raping_female (10) -> female/ambiguous (11937)
create implication ambiguous_raping_intersex (0) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication ambiguous_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/ambiguous (2083)
create implication ambiguous_raping_herm (0) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication ambiguous_raping_herm (0) -> herm/ambiguous (177)
create implication ambiguous_raping_maleherm (0) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication ambiguous_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/ambiguous (24)
create implication ambiguous_raping_gynomorph (4) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication ambiguous_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph/ambiguous (1500)
create implication ambiguous_raping_andromorph (1) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication ambiguous_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph/ambiguous (170)
create implication ambiguous_raping_ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication ambiguous_raping_ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous/ambiguous (3409)

Reason: Given light of recent conversation on attached forum, I believe having more thorough victim/attacker tags such as these would both create a more thorough blacklist for people as well as more easily find a type of content for those interested in it. Thoughts? Any errors with the set up I have currently?

I think ambiguous_rape might be a bit too ambiguous to alias to ambiguous_rapist. currently the tag seems like it might being used in the same way as questionable consent is supposed to.

versperus said:
The bulk update request #1931 is pending approval.

create alias male_rape (3912) -> male_rapist (0) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias female_rape (1469) -> female_rapist (0) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias intersex_rape (28) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create alias herm_rape (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create alias maleherm_rape (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create alias gynomorph_rape (118) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create alias andromorph_rape (13) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create alias ambiguous_rape (30) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication male_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication male_rapist (0) -> male (2506148)
create implication female_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication female_rapist (0) -> female (2549128)
create implication intersex_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication intersex_rapist (0) -> intersex (246055)
create implication herm_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication herm_rapist (0) -> herm (27322)
create implication maleherm_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_rapist (0) -> maleherm (4475)
create implication gynormorph_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_rapist (0) -> gynomorph (193683)
create implication andromorph_rapist (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_rapist (0) -> andromorph (23485)
create implication ambiguous_rapist (0) -> ambiguous_gender (313176)
create implication ambiguous_rapist (0) -> rape (47726)
create implication male_raped (1745) -> male (2506148)
create implication male_raped (1745) -> rape (47726)
create implication female_raped (3389) -> female (2549128)
create implication female_raped (3389) -> rape (47726)
create implication intersex_raped (2) -> intersex (246055)
create implication intersex_raped (2) -> rape (47726)
create implication herm_raped (1) -> herm (27322)
create implication herm_raped (1) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication maleherm_raped (5) -> maleherm (4475)
create implication maleherm_raped (5) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication gynomorph_raped (7) -> gynomorph (193683)
create implication gynomorph_raped (7) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication andromorph_raped (10) -> andromorph (23485)
create implication andromorph_raped (10) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication ambiguous_raped (25) -> ambiguous_gender (313176)
create implication ambiguous_raped (25) -> rape (47726)
create implication male_raping_female (3088) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_female (3088) -> female_raped (3389)
create implication male_raping_female (3088) -> male/female (668204)
create implication male_raping_male (813) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_male (813) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication male_raping_male (813) -> male/male (504585)
create implication male_raping_intersex (0) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication male_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/male (43182)
create implication male_raping_herm (0) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication male_raping_herm (0) -> herm/male (3295)
create implication male_raping_maleherm (0) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication male_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/male (839)
create implication male_raping_gynomorph (6) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_gynomorph (6) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication male_raping_gynomorph (6) -> gynomorph/male (21926)
create implication male_raping_andromorph (3) -> male_raping_intersex (0)
create implication male_raping_andromorph (3) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication male_raping_andromorph (3) -> andromorph/male (8345)
create implication male_raping_ambiguous (18) -> male_rapist (0)
create implication male_raping_ambiguous (18) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication male_raping_ambiguous (18) -> male/ambiguous (32910)
create implication female_raping_male (444) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_male (444) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication female_raping_male (444) -> male/female (668204)
create implication female_raping_female (105) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_female (105) -> female_raped (3389)
create implication female_raping_female (105) -> female/female (102718)
create implication female_raping_intersex (0) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication female_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/female (44144)
create implication female_raping_herm (0) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication female_raping_herm (0) -> herm/female (3188)
create implication female_raping_maleherm (0) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication female_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/female (124)
create implication female_raping_gynomorph (1) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_gynomorph (1) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication female_raping_gynomorph (1) -> gynomorph/female (34293)
create implication female_raping_andromorph (1) -> female_raping_intersex (0)
create implication female_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication female_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph/female (446)
create implication female_raping_ambiguous (1) -> female_rapist (0)
create implication female_raping_ambiguous (1) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication female_raping_ambiguous (1) -> female/ambiguous (11937)
create implication intersex_raping_male (6) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_male (6) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication intersex_raping_male (6) -> intersex/male (43182)
create implication intersex_raping_female (12) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_female (12) -> femaled_raped (0)
create implication intersex_raping_female (12) -> intersex/female (44144)
create implication intersex_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication intersex_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/intersex (17459)
create implication intersex_raping_herm (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication intersex_raping_maleherm (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication intersex_raping_gynomorph (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication intersex_raping_andromorph (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication intersex_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication intersex_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex_rapist (0)
create implication intersex_raping_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication intersex_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex/ambiguous (2083)
create implication herm_raping_male (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_male (0) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication herm_raping_male (0) -> herm/male (3295)
create implication herm_raping_female (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_female (0) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication herm_raping_female (0) -> herm/female (3188)
create implication herm_raping_intersex (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication herm_raping_herm (0) -> herm/herm (860)
create implication herm_raping_maleherm (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication herm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/herm (102)
create implication herm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication herm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynormorh/herm (0)
create implication herm_raping_andromorph (0) -> herm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication herm_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication herm_raping_andromorph (0) -> herm/andromorph (3)
create implication herm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> herm_rapist (0)
create implication herm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication herm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> herm/ambiguous (177)
create implication maleherm_raping_male (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_male (0) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication maleherm_raping_male (0) -> maleherm/male (839)
create implication maleherm_raping_female (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_female (0) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication maleherm_raping_female (0) -> maleherm/female (124)
create implication maleherm_raping_intersex (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_herm (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication maleherm_raping_herm (0) -> maleherm/herm (102)
create implication maleherm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication maleherm_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/maleherm (106)
create implication maleherm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication maleherm_raping_gynomorph (0) -> maleherm/gynomorph (63)
create implication maleherm_raping_andromorph (0) -> maleherm_raping_intersex (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication maleherm_raping_andromorph (0) -> maleherm/andromorph (24)
create implication maleherm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> maleherm_rapist (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex_raping_ambiguous (0)
create implication maleherm_raping_ambiguous (0) -> maleherm/ambiguous (24)
create implication gynomorph_raping_male (33) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_male (33) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication gynomorph_raping_male (33) -> gynomorph/male (21926)
create implication gynomorph_raping_female (68) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_female (68) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication gynomorph_raping_female (68) -> gynomorph/female (34293)
create implication gynomorph_raping_intersex (0) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_herm (0) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication gynomorph_raping_herm (0) -> gynomorph/herm (1697)
create implication gynomorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication gynomorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/gynomorph (63)
create implication gynomorph_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication gynomorph_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph/gynomorph (10062)
create implication gynomorph_raping_andromorph (4) -> gynomorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_andromorph (4) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication gynomorph_raping_andromorph (4) -> andromorph/gynomorph (621)
create implication gynomorph_raping_ambiguous (4) -> gynomorph_rapist (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_ambiguous (4) -> intersex_raping_ambiguous (0)
create implication gynomorph_raping_ambiguous (4) -> gynomorph/ambiguous (1500)
create implication andromorph_raping_male (10) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_male (10) -> intersex_raping_male (6)
create implication andromorph_raping_male (10) -> andromorph/male (8345)
create implication andromorph_raping_female (0) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_female (0) -> intersex_raping_female (12)
create implication andromorph_raping_female (0) -> andromorph/female (446)
create implication andromorph_raping_intersex (0) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_herm (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication andromorph_raping_herm (0) -> herm/andromorph (3)
create implication andromorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication andromorph_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/andromorph (24)
create implication andromorph_raping_gynomorph (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication andromorph_raping_gynomorph (0) -> andromorph/gynomorph (621)
create implication andromorph_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raping_intersex (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication andromorph_raping_andromorph (0) -> andromorph/andromorph (277)
create implication andromorph_raping_ambiguous (0) -> andromorph_rapist (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_ambiguous (0) -> intersex_raping_ambiguous (0)
create implication andromorph_raping_ambiguous (0) -> andromorph/ambiguous (170)
create implication ambiguous_raping_male (0) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_male (0) -> male_raped (1745)
create implication ambiguous_raping_male (0) -> male/ambiguous (32910)
create implication ambiguous_raping_female (10) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_female (10) -> female_raped (3389)
create implication ambiguous_raping_female (10) -> female/ambiguous (11937)
create implication ambiguous_raping_intersex (0) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex_raped (2)
create implication ambiguous_raping_intersex (0) -> intersex/ambiguous (2083)
create implication ambiguous_raping_herm (0) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_herm (0) -> herm_raped (1)
create implication ambiguous_raping_herm (0) -> herm/ambiguous (177)
create implication ambiguous_raping_maleherm (0) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_raped (5)
create implication ambiguous_raping_maleherm (0) -> maleherm/ambiguous (24)
create implication ambiguous_raping_gynomorph (4) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph_raped (7)
create implication ambiguous_raping_gynomorph (4) -> gynomorph/ambiguous (1500)
create implication ambiguous_raping_andromorph (1) -> ambiguous_raping_intersex (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph_raped (10)
create implication ambiguous_raping_andromorph (1) -> andromorph/ambiguous (170)
create implication ambiguous_raping_ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous_rapist (0)
create implication ambiguous_raping_ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous_raped (25)
create implication ambiguous_raping_ambiguous (3) -> ambiguous/ambiguous (3409)

Reason: Given light of recent conversation on attached forum, I believe having more thorough victim/attacker tags such as these would both create a more thorough blacklist for people as well as more easily find a type of content for those interested in it. Thoughts? Any errors with the set up I have currently?

Bumped, given the update I can't remove the ambiguous rapist tags but assuming people with the power can scrap those before pushing the BUR

versperus said:
Bumped, given the update I can't remove the ambiguous rapist tags but assuming people with the power can scrap those before pushing the BUR

For what it's worth, I've been using these forms when I see them. It's a lot of tags, but mostly it seems to be things that'll discourage people forgetting the (almost as large list of) implied tags. I haven't been using X_raping_Y precisely because I didn't even notice them being used. Chicken and egg, haha.

-1 to x_raping_y for the same reasons Watsit gave. The rest are good though, x_rapist and y_raped.

the reason that x_raping_y tags are there is to follow suit with tags such as male_penetrating_female.

versperus said:
the reason that x_raping_y tags are there is to follow suit with tags such as male_penetrating_female.

Couldn't you achieve most of that by combining x_rapist with x_penetrating_y?

Also good God that's a lot of downvotes.

versperus said:
the reason that x_raping_y tags are there is to follow suit with tags such as male_penetrating_female.

Wasn't there a push to remove all x_verbing_y tags including the penetrating ones?

cloudpie said:
Wasn't there a push to remove all x_verbing_y tags including the penetrating ones?

I'd advise keeping those, since their existence is what makes a lot of other x_z-ing_y tags unnecessary.

cloudpie said:
Wasn't there a push to remove all x_verbing_y tags including the penetrating ones?

I don't know.

versperus said:
I don't know.

I found it: topic #36869
I guess the penetration ones are being kept though. I disagree with that personally, seems like it would be better if everything was consistent, but oh well. I might just have brainworms lol

cloudpie said:
I found it: topic #36869
I guess the penetration ones are being kept though. I disagree with that personally, seems like it would be better if everything was consistent, but oh well. I might just have brainworms lol

OK, so at least use the penetration ones. The x_raping_y ones are going to go away, anyways? They seem useful mainly to grab all those implications, anyways, right? If it adds a bunch of tags due to multiplier effect, but they then prevent people forgetting to tag 2+ tags when used... sigh. If they're used, they're used, but like I said: Don't think I've seen many of them, if any. I forgot (or didn't see) this thread, entirely, it seems. :/

cloudpie said:
I found it: topic #36869
I guess the penetration ones are being kept though. I disagree with that personally, seems like it would be better if everything was consistent, but oh well. I might just have brainworms lol

I think the main reason that the main two x/p/y tag families (gender and form) deserve to exist is the fact that *_penetrated and *_penetrating aren't necessarily going to be sex acts because of sex_toys and like autopenetration, but one character penetrating another is always going to be sex so we can have the x/p/y -> sex implications. from memory, sex was actually pretty undertagged on, like, normal penetrative sex prior to those implications.

sipothac said:
I think the main reason that the main two x/p/y tag families (gender and form) deserve to exist is the fact that *_penetrated and *_penetrating aren't necessarily going to be sex acts because of sex_toys and like autopenetration, but one character penetrating another is always going to be sex so we can have the x/p/y -> sex implications. from memory, sex was actually pretty undertagged on, like, normal penetrative sex prior to those implications.

Sounds like same reasoning regarding implications being convenient and more likely to get tagged. Hmm...

alphamule said:
Sounds like same reasoning regarding implications being convenient and more likely to get tagged. Hmm...

for most situations the result of tag hybridization is just the same tags but glued together, like with the recently discussed male_anthro_with_human_penis. but occasionally, like combining *_penetrating/*_penetrated with the pairing tags, the resultant tags have emergent properties that might warrant a contiued existence.

sipothac said:
for most situations the result of tag hybridization is just the same tags but glued together, like with the recently discussed male_anthro_with_human_penis. but occasionally, like combining *_penetrating/*_penetrated with the pairing tags, the resultant tags have emergent properties that might warrant a contiued existence.

You mean the tag that keeps coming back? :D