Topic: Paying for commissions with cryptocurrency

Posted under Art Talk

I have been thinking about opening for commissions when i get good enough at drawing, but only accept cryptocurrency payments.
What do you think about it?

Only accepting crypto? Dawg, as Chirmaya said, you are severely limiting the number of potential customers. As mainstream as crypto is getting, the amount of people who own and spend with crypto is a small minority compared to spending with traditional currency. Limiting an already limited consumer base with an even more specific niche of art is not a good idea

electricitywolf said:
I have been thinking about opening for commissions when i get good enough at drawing, but only accept cryptocurrency payments.
What do you think about it?

Considering the overwhelming majority of furries hate crypto. Thats gonna crash and burn.

I wouldn't do this if it isn't necessary.

demesejha said:
Considering the overwhelming majority of furries hate crypto. Thats gonna crash and burn.

How do you know that:"the overwhelming majority of furries", hate crypto? I have the feling that:"the overwhelming majority of furries", don't even know the downsides of crypto.

cryptocurrency is a lot less reliable than regular ole money. fewer people even have it, never mind actually use what they do have, and a lot more people dislike it. i don't think you'll get many customers.

dubsthefox said:
I wouldn't do this if it isn't necessary.

How do you know that:"the overwhelming majority of furries", hate crypto? I have the feling that:"the overwhelming majority of furries", don't even know the downsides of crypto.

NFTs are getting the two minutes hate right now for killing the environment. Crypto as a whole, maybe not.

Without knowing electricitywolf's motivations for only accepting cryptocurrency, it's hard to give advice.

dubsthefox said:
I wouldn't do this if it isn't necessary.

How do you know that:"the overwhelming majority of furries", hate crypto? I have the feling that:"the overwhelming majority of furries", don't even know the downsides of crypto.

The downside of crypto is that it is the brainchild of people who flunked out of Economics 101.

Nobody wants a currency that can fluctuate in value by 10% in a single day, and if nobody wants a currency, it doesn't work as a currency. People who buy into cryptocurrency are trying to get rich quick by hoping they can find a bigger moron than they are to pay more than what they paid for it, not as the currency of the future. This isn't even touching on how all it is really doing is creating a bunch of bookkeeping busywork, eating up time, energy and hardware in the process. Crypto is why some computer parts are abominably expensive now.

Trying to use it to buy commissions is just making extra steps for an artist to get their money, which they will not want to do, and also adds into the further complication of having to cash in the currency (providing a hefty fee to the exchange in the process) ASAP before the value of the currency crashes again for the second time this month and they don't get the full value of their service.

lance_armstrong said:
NFTs are getting the two minutes hate right now for killing the environment. Crypto as a whole, maybe not.

Without knowing electricitywolf's motivations for only accepting cryptocurrency, it's hard to give advice.

Artists were hating on NFTs even before we knew they were the digital equivalent of rolling coal. They were hated almost immediately. Even the guy who invented NFTs has told people not to use them, because they don't work.

lance_armstrong said:
NFTs are getting the two minutes hate right now for killing the environment. Crypto as a whole, maybe not.

All crypto is based on the same environment-killing technology (and, almost as evil, making it bloody impossible to buy a GPU right now). NFTs are just particularly easy to make fun of because the few that aren't plagiarised are butt-ugly. The fact that they also happen to be useless is the icing on the cake.

As somebody with experience in economics I'd advise against that as well. Cryptocurrencies aren't stable, involve more steps for the customer and aren't popular for many reasons to begin with. You'll only limit your customerbase

lance_armstrong said:
Are you doing it for anonymity? You probably have to convert it to cash eventually.

lance_armstrong said:
Without knowing electricitywolf's motivations for only accepting cryptocurrency, it's hard to give advice.

It is because using PayPal does not seem like a good idea to me, and international wire transfers can be slow and expensive.

lonelylupine said:

Nobody wants a currency that can fluctuate in value by 10% in a single day, and if nobody wants a currency, it doesn't work as a currency. People who buy into cryptocurrency are trying to get rich quick by hoping they can find a bigger moron than they are to pay more than what they paid for it, not as the currency of the future. This isn't even touching on how all it is really doing is creating a bunch of bookkeeping busywork, eating up time, energy and hardware in the process. Crypto is why some computer parts are abominably expensive now.

If that was true, it wouldn’t have stuck around for so long and it wouldn’t have accumulated so much value. Also, if this was true, high-risk stocks wouldn’t be a thing. Clearly, there is something about it that gives it some kind of value. The main advantage of Bitcoin that I see is that the supply can’t be manipulated. Governments can just print more of their own money, as much as they want. But all this does is inflate the currency, leading to the steady decline in value. The US dollar, as it turns out, is a terrible investment. It only loses value the longer you hold on to it. Bitcoin, as unstable as it is, at least has a strong upward trend in value overall. Ideally, I think, it would be better overall if governments didn’t have control over their currency. They use it to their own benefit and to the detriment of their own people. Cryptocurrency provides the technology to make that possible, but whether or not it actually happens is yet to be seen. Governments, of course, are not going to give up that power willingly.

As for myself, I’m not playing the crypto game since it is quite unstable currently, and I don’t have that much money to gamble with. What I like about it, rather, is the fact that the technology has the potential to overthrow the fiat currency system. I mean, consider what fiat currency is. As the name implies, it only has value because the government says it does. It’s not actually based on anything. There’s no “real” value behind it like, say, gold. This allows them to make as much of it as they want. This decreases the value of it overall as it becomes less scarce, but that only really hurts the people who have to earn their money. But then there is always the possibility of hyperinflation a la Venezuela, in which case the value of the currency rapidly drops to near zero and the entire economy collapses. These things are only really possible in a fiat currency system. Is cryptocurrency the way out of that? Well, I don’t know. It’s certainly possible. If it is possible, it might be the only way. That’s why I’m not going to jump on the crypto-hate train. Maybe nothing will come of it in the end, but maybe it’ll end up making things better for everyone. We just don’t know. It’s an unexpected and untested technology that’s been unleashed upon the world, and it has the potential to do great things. On the other hand, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of bad that can come of it in the long run. The worst thing that happens is everyone who bought into it loses their money, some people end up with way too many graphics cards that they can’t do anything with, and the whole thing fizzles out and everything goes back to normal. Or, maybe, this technology will bring an end to governmental monetary manipulation, or who knows what else it could do. I’m just waiting to see what actually comes of it before passing judgement on it.

I would really like to buy a new graphics card, though. I’m not denying that there are some definite downsides, at least currently.

there is no "real" value behind gold, either. it's only a piece of matter. it has value for some industrial and tech purposes, for being pretty and for being a classical target for speculation. some people just have magical ideas about gold. the currency that a state uses has value because it is backed by the state and all the things in that state. the swedish crown has value as a currency because the state that controls it has access to the economic activity of a highly industrialised country of ten million people.

i'm highly doubtful that cryptocurrency would be a technological solution to anything, but it absolutely can't be a technological solution to a social issue. just look at the internet as it currently exists. you can copy pictures, songs and other media perfectly and infinitely. that's what the technology allows for. you can just do it. but that's mostly illegal, because existing industry can spend money to enforce prohibitions on it. even if cryptocurrency had as much social and cultural use as infinite replication of art it can't inherently do jack shit against what is ultimately a social and political issue (who determines laws and for whose sake they are enforced)

This is the first time I've seen a thread with so much negativity about cryptocurrency. People are used to paying by cash or card, making deposits and exchanges in the bank. But I think that cryptocurrency will become more popular. Crypto is already legalized in some countries. I have many friends who invest and trade in crypto. I read predictions on [Redacted] and I think that soon I will start to invest too, as long as I can enter the market at small price. So it's not a fact that taking a commission in crypto will drive clients away. There will be an audience that is willing to accept such terms.

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seylen said:
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This sounds like some stock spiel for whenever some cryptobro sees negativity about crypto. We know the only thing driving crypto is peoples' willingness to engage in it, so anyone who's invested has a self-serving interest to make it sound as appealing as possible so that others start using it and it boosts their investment (particularly in times where its value tanks), regardless of how good it would be for those others, as long as it benefits that person.

Crypto was popular, but considering how hard it has been crashing lately, and the looming spectre of government regulation, I wouldn't say it's a good investment. The fact that there's also no safety net should something happen (where the government mandates at least a small level of responsibility on banks and credit companies to secure a person's money if it gets stolen or you get scammed, crypto has none of that) adds to the risk. Also that not every business will accept it, nor will they ever be required to so long as the government isn't involved in it, and it's harder to exchange for actual cash when needed, makes it less useful. I can imagine a world where you have AppleCoin, GoogleCoin, MicrosoftCoin, DisneyCoin, WarnerCoin, etc, all as separate cryptocurrencies, and their titular companies (and subsidiaries) only accept their coin; but don't worry, you can exchange the other currencies for a completely reasonable 5% transaction fee. Or you can just use cash, which as official government tender, businesses are required to accept as payment.

my dude really just went to the search bar, typed "crypto", and even after seeing the thread has been dead for 8 months thought to themselves
"Hm, this will do. Time to go advertise it some more while pretending I'm some outsider that's eager to jump at this golden opportunity!"

mabit said:
my dude really just went to the search bar, typed "crypto", and even after seeing the thread has been dead for 8 months thought to themselves
"Hm, this will do. Time to go advertise it some more while pretending I'm some outsider that's eager to jump at this golden opportunity!"

this dude made this account 4 days ago, please don't tell me they made it solely to shill for a price tracker on a furry art archive, how desperate do you gotta be?

is already legalized in some countries.

a winning endorsement if i did ever hear one

seylen said:
This is the first time I've seen a thread with so much negativity about cryptocurrency. People are used to paying by cash or card, making deposits and exchanges in the bank. But I think that cryptocurrency will become more popular. Crypto is already legalized in some countries. I have many friends who invest and trade in crypto. I read predictions on [Removed] and I think that soon I will start to invest too, as long as I can enter the market at small price. So it's not a fact that taking a commission in crypto will drive clients away. There will be an audience that is willing to accept such terms.

Look, I'm optimistic about crypto too, but it's just not ready yet. Every coin is plagued with unfixed vulnerabilities, and even if they did work as intended, they don't have all the proprieties cash needs to have. They also all have much to improve in energy efficiency, and none of them have done anything that works to maintain stable value through the speculation. I get that it's easy to look at the rise of bitcoin and think that functional crypto is just around the corner, but it's not. You cannot get in on the cryptocurrency of the future while it's cheap because it does not exist yet, and none of them are cheap.

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One thing we should remember about technology, especially more and more digital technology, is that people generally come up with it and start developing it, but then it takes twenty or more years before it becomes a viable technology that can hope to fulfill its potential. It takes time not just to figure out what we can do with it, but to make it stable and properly regulated (usually by market pressures, but also governmental ones) so that it becomes more than some pie-in-the-sky scheme to make a few dreamy-eyed hucksters really rich. Typically, we see an initial bubble of speculation (like dot-com bubble) as people rush to invest in this hot, new tech trend only for the bubble to pop and most of those huckster fortunes evaporate. But there will be those grounded in better business sense (if not always the best of ethics and morals) who will hang on and continue to develop this technology past when the popped bubble's echos die away and basically become the next Bill Gates with a viable technology that not only works as it should, but may be quite different from how the original hucksters envisioned it.

The cryptocurrency bubble hasn't popped yet. Right now, the original hucksters are busy trying to build fortunes at the press of a button and hoping some pipe dream of weakening the power of central banks and governments over currencies (at least as a bonus). At some point, the bubble will pop and all the hucksters will laugh off to the bank at all the fools they've ripped off or will end up being no more than wishful dreamers whose dreams of wealth and power will disappear.

Wait, is it possible to accept a commission in cryptocurrency and is it subject to taxes? It's just that, as far as I know, in America, almost everything is subject to taxation, not excluding cryptocurrency https://irs-offices.com/florida/orlando/. I'm just very interested in all these financial procedures, so I started talking about it. And so, I want to wish you good luck in business!

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electricitywolf said:
It is because using PayPal does not seem like a good idea to me, and international wire transfers can be slow and expensive.

As far I know, Crypto is way less safe than pp and slower to convert it in real money compared to wire transfers.
If you just want to be anon, open a patreon or subscribestar but have in mind that's an extra bite of fees.

eeveesbeingassholes said:
As far I know, Crypto is way less safe than pp and slower to convert it in real money compared to wire transfers.
If you just want to be anon, open a patreon or subscribestar but have in mind that's an extra bite of fees.

I have read stories about people with legitimate business having their money taken away by PayPal without much they can do besides getting in a legal procedure that would take months and spending more that what PayPal is holding back.

While crypto may be less safe than PayPal for the customer under some circumstances, i plan to send sketches very early in the process, so the customer knows i'm actually working and also can tell me if they want me to change something. Once i finish it, i will send a thumbnail sized image, and ask for the payment to send the full size image.

Also, PayPal rules include:

Physical Goods – PayPal allows U.S. only transactions for certain sexually oriented physical goods, such as videos, DVDs, magazines, or other products physically delivered to the customer. PayPal does not permit transactions for sexually oriented physical goods by users outside the U.S. To determine which types of physical goods to permit, PayPal considers these factors:

  • Regulations or restrictions on the purchase or sale of the product in the applicable jurisdiction.
  • Classification of the product by a recognized ratings board.
  • Description or depiction of sexual conduct in a patently offensive way.
  • Dominant theme of the material or website.
  • Literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
  • Impact on the safety and protection of PayPal's customers.
  • Potential medicinal or educational uses.

Digital Goods – PayPal prohibits all account holders from buying or selling sexually oriented digital goods, including downloadable pictures or videos, subscriptions to websites, or other content delivered through a digital medium.

You might have seen some artists using PayPal to get paid for NSFW commissions and even say they only accept PayPal.
That artist is either lying to PayPal or did not read the rules. I don't know if they could go to jail, i am not a lawyer.

Someone in a forum recommended using Ko-fi to get paid in donations that are not actually donations. Depending on the country, the artist could get money laundering charges regardless of the legality of the content they produced. And remember, in many countries, including the US, when it comes to money laundering, you are guilty until proven otherwise.

eeveesbeingassholes said:
As far I know, Crypto is slower to convert it in real money compared to wire transfers.

Anything is money if you are brave enough.

eeveesbeingassholes said:
As far I know, Crypto is way less safe than pp and slower to convert it in real money compared to wire transfers.

Crypto is as safe as you keep your wallet, the main danger is volatility and the end user.
Bitcoin ATMs do also exist, I've used them. They take a sizable cut, but to be fair, so do online payment processors, so pick your poison there. Those are instant; you get a QR code from the machine, then send the BTC to the address and it spits out your cash. I do not know if support for this exists for other cryptocurrency, however.

mexicanfurry said:
[REDACTED]

That problem is not exclusive to cryptocurrency exchanges. That kind of thing has happened many times even before cryptocurrencies existed.

mexicanfurry said:
"Dress for Success" (A political caricature of my country. xD[REDACTED LINK])

What does that have to do with it?

electricitywolf said:
That problem is not exclusive to cryptocurrency exchanges. That kind of thing has happened many times even before cryptocurrencies existed.

My very personal oppinion about cryptocurrencies is that they are a new (in spirit) sort of pyramidal scam, based in "the greatest fool theory". Only this could blow up several times, theoretically could continue forever, "processing" batch after batch of fools, like in a continuous conveyor belt.

=).

Moreover, I believe that with time, it will become ever more and more controlled by criminal organizations, that will try to shut you up, if you dare to critisize this "wonder of our times". Or at least, accuse you of being in favor of "fiat currency, government control... be against 'the freedom of the people" and "millennial wisedom and enlightment", ... "conservate old f*rts", etcetera. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PUceq7Vzmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IRgSSBPrWY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

What does that have to do with it?

Oh, just something about what I mentioned above. Let me translate just the top:

"According to the Financial Times, the sucess of the crypto-scammer Sam Bankman-Fired (FTX), was in great part explained, because he dressed like a bum. Because that is the trend amongst many billionares, politicians and other powerful people that read our times. It is not just "neglect" but a deliberate and complex NARRATIVE against "the system".

And so goes on the cartoon. Hopefuly is clear.

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Few things more:

Cryptocurrencies not only could be used to especulate. You could move wealth from here to there outside the banking system. I believe that using the old tools of technical analysis you could even survive and even gain if you invest more or less aware of the risk, even if you do not form part of the mafia behind one of those cryptocurrencies and you don't have the insider information of when and how is probably to blow up.

I myself would never invest in something like that. But hey, everyone is free to choose what to do.

=).

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mexicanfurry said:
My very personal oppinion about cryptocurrencies is that they are a new (in spirit) sort of pyramidal scam, based in "the greatest fool theory". Only this could blow up several times, theoretically could continue forever, "processing" batch after batch of fools, like in a continuous conveyor belt.

=).

Moreover, I believe that with time, it will become ever more and more controlled by criminal organizations, that will try to shut you up, if you dare to critisize this "wonder of our times". Or at least, accuse you of being in favor of "fiat currency, government control... be against 'the freedom of the people" and "millennial wisedom and enlightment", ... "conservate old f*rts", etcetera. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PUceq7Vzmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IRgSSBPrWY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

In the first link the host said:

Essentially Bitcoin and the other cryptocurrencies are like buying shares in nothing. Each is issued by a company, pretty much hoping that you'll bid on them, and buy their crypto coins. The value is then determined solely by speculation. Lots of people buying in drives the value up. A sell off makes it plummet, but the money and it is real money being generated by all of this speculation ends up providing startup funding for plenty of legitimate companies.

That's not how most cryptocurrencies work. He is mixing facts and fiction. While buying cryptocurrency is like buying shares in nothing, and the value is determined by speculation. Most of the popular cryptocurrencies are not issued by a single company. Bitcoin is not issued by a company, Ethereum is not issued by a company, Monero is not issued by a company, and the list can go on. To be issued by a single company, the currency would have to be centralized. Of course, there are initial coin offerings and centralized currencies, i would stay away from those, since that's where the scammers are.

I think you don't know how cryptocurrencies work, if you did, you would not have linked that first video.

About the second link and third link, i am not telling people to invest in cryptocurrency.

Speaking of investing in cryptocurrency, i still find it strange that many people who invest in cryptocurrencies don't know how cryptocurrencies work. Just something i noticed.

mexicanfurry said:

What does that have to do with it?

Oh, just something about what I mentioned above. Let me translate just the top:

"According to the Financial Times, the sucess of the crypto-scammer [REDACTED], was in great part explained, because he dressed like a bum. Because that is the trend amongst many billionares, politicians and other powerful people that read our times. It is not just "neglect" but a deliberate and complex NARRATIVE against "the system".

And so goes on the cartoon. Hopefuly is clear.

I speak Spanish, i'm Mexican too.

electricitywolf said:
I have read stories about people with legitimate business having their money taken away by PayPal without much they can do besides getting in a legal procedure that would take months and spending more that what PayPal is holding back.

While crypto may be less safe than PayPal for the customer under some circumstances, i plan to send sketches very early in the process, so the customer knows i'm actually working and also can tell me if they want me to change something. Once i finish it, i will send a thumbnail sized image, and ask for the payment to send the full size image.

Also, PayPal rules include:
You might have seen some artists using PayPal to get paid for NSFW commissions and even say they only accept PayPal.
That artist is either lying to PayPal or did not read the rules. I don't know if they could go to jail, i am not a lawyer.

Someone in a forum recommended using Ko-fi to get paid in donations that are not actually donations. Depending on the country, the artist could get money laundering charges regardless of the legality of the content they produced. And remember, in many countries, including the US, when it comes to money laundering, you are guilty until proven otherwise.

Anything is money if you are brave enough.

Do you do xp. Just telling the heads up, both has their nightmare stories and even with those pp is still be being the safest option imo. You cannot go to jail for selling nsfw with paypal, at most they close your account only if they catch you and have proof about it. Also Ko-fi is literally a Paypal donation button. Whatever you use, just pay your taxes and there won't be problem.
I mention subscribestar or Patreon also because of the nsfw topic, it's accepted by pp in that way for some reason, and people trust more these than just paying with crypto. Star has the option to wire transfer you what you have earned (if the amount is bigger than $150) , Patreon ahs the option to transfer you via Payoneer, which also does wire transfers.

eeveesbeingassholes said:
Do you do xp. Just telling the heads up, both has their nightmare stories and even with those pp is still be being the safest option imo. You cannot go to jail for selling nsfw with paypal, at most they close your account only if they catch you and have proof about it. Also Ko-fi is literally a Paypal donation button. Whatever you use, just pay your taxes and there won't be problem.
I mention subscribestar or Patreon also because of the nsfw topic, it's accepted by pp in that way for some reason, and people trust more these than just paying with crypto. Star has the option to wire transfer you what you have earned (if the amount is bigger than $150) , Patreon ahs the option to transfer you via Payoneer, which also does wire transfers.

Just bear in mind Patreon bans a lot of content, because of the paypal connection.

eeveesbeingassholes said:
Ah yeah, that too, for extreme stuff tho.

Patreon Community Guidelines
However, we have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of creations. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline.

We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish creations, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish creations that are hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.

Summary; rape (more common of a fetish than most people think; see most erotic games), bestiality (see pokemon, my little pony, etc.), incest (another of the most common fetishes). Arguably this would also include many forms of voreaphilia, and certainly includes torture, snuff, and similar.

On the note of underage/loli/cub content;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUMEhFPUUAAvG1P?format=jpg&name=large
The Tanner Scale has already faced criticism for frequent misuse in this context, the creator of said scale outright saying it should not be used for age estimation.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/06/08/patreon-begins-to-purge-fan-art-of-characters-below-a-certain-height-and-bust-size/
Patreon also applies it's rules to any content you create, period. Political-end this has been used as justification before when removing content creators with contentious stances even when not linked directly to the platform, so it isn't a stretch to imagine they'd apply the same logic to erotic content as well.

Just... keep this all in mind, do your research, and don't put all your eggs in one basket with Patreon if you do want to go with a subscription model for your products. Weigh your risks, consider if you're willing to play the game the way Patreon wants you to play it, and stay safe. I highly recommend having at least one backup, like Subscribestar.

votp said:
Summary; rape (more common of a fetish than most people think; see most erotic games), bestiality (see pokemon, my little pony, etc.), incest (another of the most common fetishes). Arguably this would also include many forms of voreaphilia, and certainly includes torture, snuff, and similar.

On the note of underage/loli/cub content;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUMEhFPUUAAvG1P?format=jpg&name=large
The Tanner Scale has already faced criticism for frequent misuse in this context, the creator of said scale outright saying it should not be used for age estimation.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/06/08/patreon-begins-to-purge-fan-art-of-characters-below-a-certain-height-and-bust-size/
Patreon also applies it's rules to any content you create, period. Political-end this has been used as justification before when removing content creators with contentious stances even when not linked directly to the platform, so it isn't a stretch to imagine they'd apply the same logic to erotic content as well.

Just... keep this all in mind, do your research, and don't put all your eggs in one basket with Patreon if you do want to go with a subscription model for your products. Weigh your risks, consider if you're willing to play the game the way Patreon wants you to play it, and stay safe. I highly recommend having at least one backup, like Subscribestar.

Yup, anything non-con is banned there.
About "Bestiality", pokemon and mlp are fine as long it isnt anthro/human x feral under their standarts. Still can be avoided by not posting it there directly. You will ha e more problems with fake nintendo dmcas tho.
Incest isnt allowed there, still easy to hide, just do not post it there and don't mention in public spaces you used Patreon to finance that.
About what Patreon considers loli, yeeh, it is weird. From what i have seen, they like to bother mainly 3D creators about this stuff. You still can see artists like Diives that uses smal ocs without facing problems.

The Patreon option has these problems but users prefer trusting in that over cryptos or subscribestar. In the case Patreon fails, you use subscribestar.

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eeveesbeingassholes said:
About "Bestiality", pokemon and mlp are fine as long it isnt anthro/human x feral under their standarts. Still can be avoided by not posting it there directly.

That leaves the question of what counts for anthro vs feral. Plenty of people here tag feral for things that others would consider to be anthro (is midnight lycanroc anthro or feral? Would on-model midnight lycanroc having sex with midday or dusk lycanroc be bestiality? different people will have different opinions on that). The Lion King has been considered anthropomorphic because they can talk and show human-like expressions and behaviors.

And from what I hear, not posting it there doesn't avoid issues. I've seen a number of artists actively take down "bestiality" and feral art from here, FA, Twitter, etc, because they'll suspend your account if you have art of it elsewhere even if it's not on Patreon.

watsit said:
And from what I hear, not posting it there doesn't avoid issues. I've seen a number of artists actively take down "bestiality" and feral art from here, FA, Twitter, etc, because they'll suspend your account if you have art of it elsewhere even if it's not on Patreon.

Going of the prior example of how they've handled a few political commentary accounts, Sargon (regardless of if you agree with him or not) being the one that comes to mind immediately, when you start using Patreon they bascially operate under the belief that any and all content you create is funded entirely by them and all it takes is somebody reporting you breaking their guidelines, regardless of context, to have your account removed. It doesn't matter if it's linked to your Patreon, it doesn't matter if you link to your Patreon from the content in question, if you are identified as a content creator on their platform they act like they own your soul. Given the guidelines on pornography they use were added at the behest of Paypal to begin with, and the lengths said payment processor has gone to in order to stamp out pornography in the past, it's fully reasonable to expect the platform to overextend in such a way regarding such content.

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fuyu_graycen said:
I mean you can

But you would get better value if you accepting Monopoly Money 👍

You can always just use Hath points on E-H. Joke, don't do that.

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