Topic: Can't Remove Tags from Post(?)

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

I'm trying to remove some dnd related tags from the two links here and here, because after examining them both as close as I can, I see absolutely NO justification on why they should be tagged with dungeons & dragons related tags beyond the species of the character itself. I see nothing in the background or on the character herself relating to hasbro, wizards of the coast, or dungeons & dragons, yet everytime I try to remove these tags, they don't stay removed and just come back instantly. is there a flag or whatever the uploader can use to prevent tag changes on their posts, is it something of an account limitation with myself because of some previous infraction or whatnot, is the website having problems with tagging in general just not working at times, what's up?

Are you removing the drider tag at the same time? That tag implies dungeons_and_dragons which implies wizards_of_the_coast which implies hasbro.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about: a tag implication means that if one tag is added to an image, one or more others are automatically added. If you want to remove the latter, you have to remove the former too. When editing tags, you can click "Preview final tags" to see the effects of any applicable implications or aliases (aliases simply replace one tag with another). You can also see the aliases or implications applicable to a tag on its wiki page.

thetadelter said:
I'm trying to remove some dnd related tags from the two links here and here, because after examining them both as close as I can, I see absolutely NO justification on why they should be tagged with dungeons & dragons related tags beyond the species of the character itself.

That's exactly why it should be tagged with dungeons and dragons. If the character is a drider, it's a species from D&D, so having something from D&D should get tagged with D&D.

hexen said:
So wait, is this character from D&D, anime or both?

She's tagged as a drider, which as a species from D&D (a drow+spider).

This character, rachnera, is from okayado's manga series Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou/"Everyday Life with Monster Girls", which also got an anime adaptation. Now species lore wise, I don't know if okayado took inspiration from the dnd series on their history, but in this series setting, I don't think he did. Now if there's any official info on their lore and history that would imply any similarities to the drider's of dnd and the arachne's of the monster musume verse, I haven't seen/read about it yet. But in this instance, I believe there isnt

And besides, I think the classification of what is truly a drider should be solely limited to characters/beings FROM the dnd franchise, not including characters/beings from outside the dnd franchise. but that's just my opinion, one I doubt will be considered, but at least I got this wiggling earwig of a thought out of my brain, so that's that

Genjar

Former Staff

Not sure if it shouldn't be limited strictly to D&D, as the Pathfinder Driders are clearly derived from the same and have the same 'drow + spider' thing going on — https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Drider.

Though on the other hand, those are based on the D&D Driders, so I suppose it's still okay to tag those as D&D. Not like anyone can tell the Pathfinder Driders apart from D&D visually anyway.

genjar said:
Not sure if it shouldn't be limited strictly to D&D, as the Pathfinder Driders are clearly derived from the same and have the same 'drow + spider' thing going on — https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Drider.

Though on the other hand, those are based on the D&D Driders, so I suppose it's still okay to tag those as D&D. Not like anyone can tell the Pathfinder Driders apart from D&D visually anyway.

Do we imply Lord of the Rings for all Orc posts?

The simple solution is to just not tag these posts as drider, since that’s already being used for the DnD species. arachnid taur is the appropriate “generic” tag for these types of creatures. If it becomes widespread enough, we could even create a separate species tag just for the Monster Musume species separate from drider.

votp said:
Do we imply Lord of the Rings for all Orc posts?

There are lots of different orcs from different franchises with rather distinct appearances. If the difference between the DnD drider and the Pathfinder drider ever causes an issue, we can create a separate tag for it. However, as far as I can tell, none of the driders we have currently are from Pathfinder.

scaliespe said:
arachnid taur is the appropriate “generic” tag for these types of creatures. If it becomes widespread enough, we could even create a separate species tag just for the Monster Musume species separate from drider.

Apparently in Monster Musume they're supposed to be derived from Greek mythology, so the existing arachne tag fits. (And is already on the posts originally in question.)

votp said:
Do we imply Lord of the Rings for all Orc posts?

Normally I would've considered Drow (and Drider, being a portmanteau of drow+spider) to be D&D-specific, since a Drow is basically just D&D's version of Dark Elves. It'd have been equivalent to uruk-hai, which does imply middle-earth/LOTR. However it seems Pathfinder (which is not-D&D) is using it too. So I guess it's not a legal copyright of the D&D brand.

watsit said:
Normally I would've considered Drow (and Drider, being a portmanteau of drow+spider) to be D&D-specific, since a Drow is basically just D&D's version of Dark Elves. It'd have been equivalent to uruk-hai, which does imply middle-earth/LOTR. However it seems Pathfinder (which is not-D&D) is using it too. So I guess it's not a legal copyright of the D&D brand.

I thought Pathfinder was just D&D split-off.

furrin_gok said:
I thought Pathfinder was just D&D split-off.

As I understand, it basically started as a fan project. Some people liked D&D and wanted to do their own thing with it, but without infringing Wizards of the Coast's/Hasbro's copyrights. It's essentially as close to D&D as possible without technically being D&DTM.

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